Movies should appeal to your emotions, not manipulate them. District 9 is a good example. It has a simple political message too, but it doesn't hit you over the head with it. And the characters are interesting because they feel real and they have depth to them. That's not the case with Avatar.

Cameron took the easy way out with character design. He gave the Na'vi big eyes for sympathy, cat features (because everyone likes cats), and human lips for sexuality. The result is a perfectly designed alien that works for all emotional elements of the movie (sympathy, romance, etc.)

So yeah, it's an emotionally effective movie, like all movies should be on some level, but to me Avatar is the really boring and shallow kind of movie.

I agree, but I really hope Cameron somehow pulls this off. He brought me True Lies, which is one of all my all-time favorite re-watchable movies, and T2 which had truly mind-blowing special effects while also making me cry when a machine died (spoiler).

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District 9 was the most heavy-handed movie I can ever remember watching, and that's not an exaggeration. It's the main thing that put me off about that movie and I've never had the urge to watch it again.

Lol, and that's how I feel about Avatar! "I think at last, we understand one another Frodo Baggins."

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District 9 was the most heavy-handed movie I can ever remember watching, and that's not an exaggeration. It's the main thing that put me off about that movie and I've never had the urge to watch it again.

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Agreed. It's like Hollywood thinks corporations (especially defense contractors) interview candidates with questions like: "how evil are you willing to be?"

However, I agree with Render on Avatar. I used to love James Cameron. T2 was one of my favorite movies of all time. True Lies is another classic. And that is because the politics are subdued or non-existent, but Avatar really turned me off on the guy. I will likely not watch another James Cameron movie again. Even his upcoming terminator movie, which I would usually be inclined to watch.

"Production" is completed on 2 and 3. (4 & 5 are now hinging on financial success of 2 and 3.)

So 2 and 3 are about... 10% done!

http://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/film-and-tv-production-has-finally-finished-on-avatar-two-and-three-20190116

With Avatar it just seemed like Cameron was more interested in working with and developing the tech than simply using it to make a good movie. From a story perspective it was like a Ford Pinto with a $75,000 restoration.

Odds are I'll at least go see the first of these sequels, but I'm not excited about them at all.

What was the first Avatar?

A movie in 2009. You might have heard of it.

The blue people movie?

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With Avatar it just seemed like Cameron was more interested in working with and developing the tech than simply using it to make a good movie. From a story perspective it was like a Ford Pinto with a $75,000 restoration.

Odds are I'll at least go see the first of these sequels, but I'm not excited about them at all.

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This is a pretty good way to describe it. I still haven't seen a movie that was even on its level with 3D, and that's probably for good reason. I remember reading an article where he is working to create a 3D screen you can watch without glasses, where it's not strangely dark

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/disney-avatar-star-wars-marvel-1203207661/

Avatar sequels are pushed back for another year. A new Star Wars trilogy will begin in 2022 with sequels to that in 2024 and 2026.

Avatar 2 new release date is December 17, 2021 now.

At this point I'll be surprised if it's in theaters before 2025.

Yeah, Cameron has a pretty long track record of box office failures.

True, but IMO the last great "James Cameron" movie that I really care about was "True Lies"........25 years ago.

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True, but IMO the last great "James Cameron" movie that I really care about was "True Lies"........25 years ago.

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Yep.. I now consider that his last good movie. The rest made money, but Transformers did too.

Avatar 2 - December 17, 2021

Avatar 3 - December 22, 2023

Avatar 4 - December 19, 2025

Avatar 5 - December 17, 2027

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Avatar 2 - December 17, 2021

Avatar 3 - December 22, 2023

Avatar 4 - December 19, 2025

Avatar 5 - December 17, 2027

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Disney is alternating this franchise and Star Wars.

The week before Christmas every year will be either a Star Wars movie or an Avatar movie.

Basically just hauling in money every December for the foreseeable future.

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Basically just hauling in money every December for the foreseeable future.

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and throughout the year at their respective star wars and avatar lands.

All of the 'Avatar' Sequel Announcements: A Timeline

Hot take that I share. Don't @ me.

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Hot take that I share. Don't @ me.

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Me too sir - me too.

Loved Avatar

I'm really intrigued to see what kind of success it has over the planned run.

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So boring I can't watch it again.

Yeah what do they do with #3 if #2 tanks?