The Milkman said:

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But he saved her and they kissed in the hallway just a second before? Did he switch or something?

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They explained that going down to the testing floor (the one Gemma was on) would mean it was outie Mark with outie Gemma, but then going up to the severed floor would be innie Mark with outie Gemma. That was the point of the whole innie Mark/outie Mark conversation, because they knew they had to convince innie Mark to help them get Gemma to the door

Quinn said:

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No idea how they reset for S3 (how could they possibly return to normal severed life??) , but I assume we will see them sitting at their computers as if nothing happened before revealing the results of their chaos.

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I assume Gemma will connect with Cobel / Devon. As for inside Lumon.. no idea... Innie uprising?

I do really like this show but it confuses the HELL outta me.

So, maybe next season we have the reverse situation - Gemma and outie Mark trying to get innie Mark out and take Lumon down?

I think I'll need to rewatch both seasons between now and then.

Aggie09Derek said:

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What if they don't let Innie Mark out at all….if so, there is no outie Mark

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Wow - hadn't considered that!

That and how they'll say out loud the things we're all thinking, Helly saying to Jame: "You're so f***ing weird?!?"

Did we ever learn that another MDR employee got a file to 100%?

I'm confused because Corbel said that each file was a new consciousness for Gemma. Mark then says he had completed 24 files (or something like that) with Cold Harbor being the last one remaining.

I could understand if they were putting Gemma's consciousness in a new room, then the chip reported consciousness feedback, then the refiners would look at the data and remove the bad feedback, thereby improving the blocking. Gemma would get tested again, they would refine again, and so and so forth until they hit 100%.

However, it appears as though they pre-program the chip before there's ever any testing, as evidenced by the fact that they had to get Cold Harbor to 100% before Gemma ever became "Cold Harbor Gemma" for testing. If that's the case, then why do they continue testing her in the other rooms that are already 100%?

Maybe Cold Harbor Gemma is the culmination of all the other rooms. Like each of the other personalities provides feedback that goes into Cold Harbor, and that then needs to be refined and eliminated to create the perfect chip?

As far as testing goes, the fact that Mark S. seemingly felt nothing for Gemma at the end through the window suggests his chip is perfect.

For what it's worth, I actually yelled at my TV when Mark went in the room with her because I was 100% convinced that Outie Mark + The Crib was the actual test for Cold Harbor Gemma, and that Corbel had set it all up.

In addition to this - there's the whole Jame/Helly dynamic where he saw something greater in her than his own daughter. Do they somehow manipulate Helly by threatening to hurt Mark S, and/or simultaneously manipulate Mark by promising him a life with Helly?

Probably a lot of ways to run with that, but the point being, Lumon has a reason to continue to be interested in both Mark S. and Helly.

Yeah my brain was wandering last night trying to work out what the refining ultimately has to do with the rooms and the innies.

What were Dylan, Irving, and Helly refining?

Wasn't the crib disassembly really Mark's memory, not Gemma's? He disassembled the crib.

What does finishing the file do exactly? The cold harbor room was already complete and ready for that day; it wasn't contingent on finishing the file. What about her cold harbor innie was new or different from any other "clean slate" innie that gets created?

schmendeler said:

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Am i the only one worried about Gemma making it out of the Lumon building at all? Seems like it would be nothing to have security just grab her from the stairwell and take her back down.

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Am I the only one who wonders how such a mammoth corporation as Lumon manages to have two inept security people in a row, each of whom is killed?

This corporation managed to disappear a woman and hold her for how long, yet the only recourse when things go wrong is for one of the scientists to go running through the hallways for help?

The project Lumon is working on is so vastly important but has essentially no security at all working on it or available for assistance?

Remember Cobel visiting her home? Headlights in the distance following her, yet she somehow easily evades them and makes it back to Lumon HQ?

Lumon is everywhere yet nowhere.

BDG02 said:

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Yeah my brain was wandering last night trying to work out what the refining ultimately has to do with the rooms and the innies.

What were Dylan, Irving, and Helly refining?

Wasn't the crib disassembly really Mark's memory, not Gemma's? He disassembled the crib.

What does finishing the file do exactly? The cold harbor room was already complete and ready for that day; it wasn't contingent on finishing the file. What about her cold harbor innie was new or different from any other "clean slate" innie that gets created?

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Maybe just a lot of overly complicated technical details added in there for dramatic effect? I had a similar question.

Videos are rolling in now. The last 3 minutes of this one from TS does a great job explaining the escape sequence, exactly as Quinn stated above.

schmendeler said:

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Am i the only one worried about Gemma making it out of the Lumon building at all? Seems like it would be nothing to have security just grab her from the stairwell and take her back down.

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For sure. At least the head guy is dead which has their response a bit more chaotic. Hopefully Devon and Ms Cobel are waiting in the parking lot to at least salvage Gemma.

No way Gemma ever allows Mark to turn back into his innie or re-integrate after that snub, lol.

Ben Still and CO know how to Season Finale! So many great moments you guys have touched on. I didn't realize the iMark v oMark conversation was going to be so much back and forth. Think it was close to 20 minutes. The realization that oMark had watching iMark "You've got to be kidding me" He saw some old innocence that he hadn't see in probably years. Like someone mentioned previously - iMark is an adolescence in most ways - that man JUST had sex for the first time, and you're asking him to sepeku for a woman he doesn't know?!

The inception/elevator sequence was fantastic. You had 4 different dynamics during that entire exchange and watching each one happen was exciting as hell.

BALLAD OF AMBROSE & GUNNEL. Tramel Trilman deserves more roles. Have enjoyed watching him flourish into this character. Dude is hilarious with his faux corporativism.

• Really enjoyed the violence in this one. Once the file hit 100 - Drummond was not taking anymore **** and was bludgeoning iMark.
• Goats are used as sacrifies to lead former employees into the light of Kier
• Jame Eagen saw Kier within Helly R. That was pretty interesting "You sound like a great father..."
• Can you imagine walking into Lumon (as oMark) and waking up in an elevator with a gun in your hand, and subsequently squeezing the trigger as a 350 lb+ man starts to bleed all over you? LOL
• The Gemma / Mark reunion was bittersweet. You knew that only have minutes to start GTFO-ing - but damn that was emotional. Then the kiss in the elevator turns back into Ms Casey and iMark!!
• I recall someone sharing a video about that first time woman director, and a particular shot she really enjoyed in the finale. I'll have to go back to find it, wonder if she was referring to the red/white hallway running away shot?
• Excellent show - looking forward to S3 - no idea where they take this now.

OldArmy71 said:

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schmendeler said:

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Am i the only one worried about Gemma making it out of the Lumon building at all? Seems like it would be nothing to have security just grab her from the stairwell and take her back down.

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Am I the only one who wonders how such a mammoth corporation as Lumon manages to have two inept security people in a row, each of whom is killed?

This corporation managed to disappear a woman and hold her for how long, yet the only recourse when things go wrong is for one of the scientists to go running through the hallways for help?

The project Lumon is working on is so vastly important but has essentially no security at all working on it or available for assistance?

Remember Cobel visiting her home? Headlights in the distance following her, yet she somehow easily evades them and makes it back to Lumon HQ?

Lumon is everywhere yet nowhere.

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The security resources had to be reallocated for the marching band they keep on staff.

Thought this was pretty cool

chikhai bardo used 16mm photography for the scenes capturing how mark and gemma met and the story of their love

cold harbor switched to 16mm photography for its last shot, capturing the moment that mark and helly chose their relationship over all else

this is a love story pic.twitter.com/G1V28ycg1m

— nuz 🍁 (@punishednuz) March 21, 2025

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM pic.twitter.com/okxiYEhAck

— nuz 🍁 (@punishednuz) March 21, 2025

the big reason for the dm request was..................

so i could get personally fact-checked by ben stiller. and it was beautiful. i can't stop laughing but also this is a very cool detail https://t.co/ZpqGcEgkYj pic.twitter.com/tMYuBJAvWq

— nuz 🍁 (@punishednuz) March 21, 2025

cr0wbar said:

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• I recall someone sharing a video about that first time woman director, and a particular shot she really enjoyed in the finale. I'll have to go back to find it, wonder if she was referring to the red/white hallway running away shot?

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She said it was the final shot, so yeah it would have to be the hallway shot.

Aggie09Derek said:

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What if they don't let Innie Mark out at all….if so, there is no outie Mark

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This is what I was thinking. Reverse the roles, Gemma trying to free him?

One of my favorite parts from a shot perspective was mark running through the halls to find the black hallway. Obvious but enjoyable callback to the opening sequence of season 2.

I still think it was Helena at the end, but saw this posted.

I didn't like the ending.

Didn't Mark have enough crossover / reintegration and his own, repeated, experience and growing distrust with Lumon from which he ultimately is trying to break free, to not make the foolish decision to remain in the building?

100% Helly E who stopped Mark

AGinHI said:

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I didn't like the ending.

Didn't Mark have enough crossover / reintegration and his own, repeated, experience and growing distrust with Lumon from which he ultimately is trying to break free, to not make the foolish decision to remain in the building?

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He transformed quite a bit this season. Perhaps it was the kiss right before the Macrodat Uprising, as he was much more brazen from ep 1 this season. Then, being deceived by Helly's outie and learning who her outie is must have left him disliking outies in general, even his own.