JD Shellnut said:
Is LA LA Land considered a rom com?
AustinAg2K said:
What was the last Rom Com to be a success in the box office? I can only think of one in the last decade (Crazy Rich Asiana), although I haven't bothered to actually look it up. It seems like they are all just straight to Netflix now. It seems like that might have been a better business model for this one. Going to the theater, especially post COVID, seems reserved for only big budget action movies.
Eh, maybe Marvel had something to do with it but I think comedies are dead more-so because it's too easy to offend people these days. You can either put out a very vanilla, sterile comedy or risk offending someone and creating negative press because of it.Definitely Not A Cop said:
But yeah, comedies in general are dead since Marvel got big. Now the only comedies are one the Marvel/Spielberg type of movies with a lot of action.
Yep, same reason late night comedy sucks so bad. And when all you have is vanilla/sterile comedy all that junk goes straight to streaming because nobody is gonna go spend $20-40 to see it in a theater.BowSowy said:Eh, maybe Marvel had something to do with it but I think comedies are dead more-so because it's too easy to offend people these days. You can either put out a very vanilla, sterile comedy or risk offending someone and creating negative press because of it.Definitely Not A Cop said:
But yeah, comedies in general are dead since Marvel got big. Now the only comedies are one the Marvel/Spielberg type of movies with a lot of action.
If the sequel's called Hoes (and, to be clear, is about the writer-star of a gay romcom needing to support himself with farm work after the film tanks), Bros will retroactively become a masterpiece
— Danny Bowes (@bybowes) October 3, 2022
Why Did Billy Eichner’s ‘Bros’ Bomb at the Box Office? Straight People Aren’t Entirely to Blame https://t.co/8bBWJ13l41
— Variety (@Variety) October 3, 2022
TCTTS said:If the sequel's called Hoes (and, to be clear, is about the writer-star of a gay romcom needing to support himself with farm work after the film tanks), Bros will retroactively become a masterpiece
— Danny Bowes (@bybowes) October 3, 2022
I did not say it needed to focus on that. I said it could be acknowledged in a comedic way. We don't need this to be a gay movie that rips your heart out and stomps all over it. That's what Jim Parson's next film is for.Quote:
The entire point of the movie was to go beyond every other gay movie, which is sad and woe is me based on the past. They even joke about it when they go to see a broke back mountain knock off. So in this case, perhaps you are clinging onto the trauma we've all faced. It was the first time a gay movie wasn't drowning in stereotypes, or focused on the extreme challenges faced.
This probably explains some of why I felt the way I did about it. These theatrical references were lost on me, given my general lack of interest in rom-coms.Quote:
I thought the "formulaicness" of parts of it was at times an homage to the old 90s rom com and at times making fun of those same rom coms. I mean there are flat out recreated scenes from probably 5 or 6 rom coms in it. But to me it came across as intentional and with a wink, if that makes sense.
BowSowy said:Eh, maybe Marvel had something to do with it but I think comedies are dead more-so because it's too easy to offend people these days. You can either put out a very vanilla, sterile comedy or risk offending someone and creating negative press because of it.Definitely Not A Cop said:
But yeah, comedies in general are dead since Marvel got big. Now the only comedies are one the Marvel/Spielberg type of movies with a lot of action.
sorry, I'm not wasting valuable time out of my life watching ghey guys.BallerStaf2003 said:
The trailers don't do it justice at all. You will laugh your ass off.
It also makes fun of gay people a lot, which many on here would like.
I would love to see a comedy that shows how stupid recreational outrage is.TCTTS said:
I feel like the pendulum will eventually swing back, as I can tell many liberals are even starting to get tired of the ultra-woke, always-offended crowd. All it'll take is one, Apatow-esque comedy breaking through, and the flood gates will open again. I think we're just in a cultural dry spell, not the new norm going forward.
C@LAg said:that about nails it with an objective take on the environment.TCTTS said:
This is spot on…Why Did Billy Eichner’s ‘Bros’ Bomb at the Box Office? Straight People Aren’t Entirely to Blame https://t.co/8bBWJ13l41
— Variety (@Variety) October 3, 2022
as I said earlier, there was nothing about this movie that would get me to go see it in the theater, especially when bigger, better, more "populous-appeasing" fare cannot.
I will eventually watch it on streaming, but never would have spent $30+ on it.
Ryan the Temp said:I would love to see a comedy that shows how stupid recreational outrage is.TCTTS said:
I feel like the pendulum will eventually swing back, as I can tell many liberals are even starting to get tired of the ultra-woke, always-offended crowd. All it'll take is one, Apatow-esque comedy breaking through, and the flood gates will open again. I think we're just in a cultural dry spell, not the new norm going forward.
c-jags said:Ryan the Temp said:I would love to see a comedy that shows how stupid recreational outrage is.TCTTS said:
I feel like the pendulum will eventually swing back, as I can tell many liberals are even starting to get tired of the ultra-woke, always-offended crowd. All it'll take is one, Apatow-esque comedy breaking through, and the flood gates will open again. I think we're just in a cultural dry spell, not the new norm going forward.
The Hunt was a bit of that.
Also, a potential audience doesn't define what a movie's success criteria are - the people who made and/or distributed the movie do that as well. And in this case, they overestimated and/or under-delivered such that their own expectations defined their own failure.DannyDuberstein said:
Last I checked, a potential audience is never to blame for a movie bombing, partially or completely. The people who made and/or distributed the movie are. That goes for any movie.
Ryan the Temp said:I did not say it needed to focus on that. I said it could be acknowledged in a comedic way. We don't need this to be a gay movie that rips your heart out and stomps all over it. That's what Jim Parson's next film is for.Quote:
The entire point of the movie was to go beyond every other gay movie, which is sad and woe is me based on the past. They even joke about it when they go to see a broke back mountain knock off. So in this case, perhaps you are clinging onto the trauma we've all faced. It was the first time a gay movie wasn't drowning in stereotypes, or focused on the extreme challenges faced.
GoAgs92 said:
If you're on the fence on whether you might enjoy this movie go watch,
Call me by your name and I love you Phillip Morris….streaming now!
If you liked them, Bros here you come.
Creeped out, skip it.
I actually know the guy that Jim Carrey plays in I love you Phillip morris, quite the story, and true.
C@LAg said:that about nails it with an objective take on the environment.TCTTS said:
This is spot on…Why Did Billy Eichner’s ‘Bros’ Bomb at the Box Office? Straight People Aren’t Entirely to Blame https://t.co/8bBWJ13l41
— Variety (@Variety) October 3, 2022
as I said earlier, there was nothing about this movie that would get me to go see it in the theater, especially when bigger, better, more "populous-appeasing" fare cannot.
I will eventually watch it on streaming, but never would have spent $30+ on it.
i saw it and it was hilarious.Duncan Idaho said:c-jags said:Ryan the Temp said:I would love to see a comedy that shows how stupid recreational outrage is.TCTTS said:
I feel like the pendulum will eventually swing back, as I can tell many liberals are even starting to get tired of the ultra-woke, always-offended crowd. All it'll take is one, Apatow-esque comedy breaking through, and the flood gates will open again. I think we're just in a cultural dry spell, not the new norm going forward.
The Hunt was a bit of that.
And the snowflakes were too triggered to see it for what it was.
You're thinking of 'chick-flicks'. There is a difference, imo, and you know it when you see it.JCA1 said:
Maybe it's just my experience, but best I can tell, most rom-coms are aimed almost exclusively at women and men only go see them when their wives/girlfriends drag them there, regardless of if its straight or gay. I have not seen the movie but the trailers strongly suggest that Bros is mainly guys without a female lead. Without the female lead/love interest, it lacks a connection with its target audience--females. Just a thought.
very inciteful and well thought out reasoning.TCTTS said:
This is spot on…Why Did Billy Eichner’s ‘Bros’ Bomb at the Box Office? Straight People Aren’t Entirely to Blame https://t.co/8bBWJ13l41
— Variety (@Variety) October 3, 2022