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Why doesn't Disney just cancel the new Snow White movie?

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The Original Houston 1836
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maroon barchetta said:

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If anything, being exposed to some of this stuff, your kids are going to grow up with more empathy for others and not thinking that seeing gay people depicted on screen or whatever is nearly as taboo or as big of a deal as their parents do.

That, and if you have a problem with two, same sex cartoons kissing in front of your kids, you should have the same problem with two, heterosexual cartoons kissing on screen. Anything else is either hypocritical or the mindset of the religious right trying to bend the world to their morals and their liking.



All values are not equal. All morals are not equal. I'm the religious right trying to bend the world to my morals where men and women getting married and having kids is the ideal. I don't want to have to explain to my 3, 4, and 7 year old kids why two dudes are kissing in a kid movie. To equate that to a man and women kissing is just plain absurd. We shouldn't teach kids no values, and we shouldn't teach kids that all values are equal. Kids should be taught good values. That was obvious not that long ago.

Also, it's so ridiculously rich that producers of content for kids go out of their way to inject gay crap into kid content in order to normalize it as you describe, then when it's noticed, say how dare you make a big deal of it. It is being done intentionally, and then the reaction is called a culture war. Gaslighting defined.


What do you say to your kids when someone at school has two moms or two dads?




The true answer is that no kid has two moms or two dads. That's reality. A kid is born because of a sperm and an egg. Maybe the kid is raised by two women or two men, but every kid has out there somewhere a mom and a dad.

What I'll tell my kids when they ask is (after the true answer above) that that's not the way God intended things to be, but that we still treat people with love.

That question wasn't as "gotcha" as I would imagine you thought it was.


Not just God, but nature.


Who created nature?
Ric Flair
Sea Speed
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20ag07 said:

And why is that?


Because it looks like a bunch of ******s flailing around like those air people in front of stores but set at a Diddy party. Monumentally ******ed.

Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth though.
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The Original Houston 1836 said:

maroon barchetta said:

General Jack D. Ripper said:

BQRyno said:

nai06 said:

BQRyno said:

TCTTS said:


If anything, being exposed to some of this stuff, your kids are going to grow up with more empathy for others and not thinking that seeing gay people depicted on screen or whatever is nearly as taboo or as big of a deal as their parents do.

That, and if you have a problem with two, same sex cartoons kissing in front of your kids, you should have the same problem with two, heterosexual cartoons kissing on screen. Anything else is either hypocritical or the mindset of the religious right trying to bend the world to their morals and their liking.



All values are not equal. All morals are not equal. I'm the religious right trying to bend the world to my morals where men and women getting married and having kids is the ideal. I don't want to have to explain to my 3, 4, and 7 year old kids why two dudes are kissing in a kid movie. To equate that to a man and women kissing is just plain absurd. We shouldn't teach kids no values, and we shouldn't teach kids that all values are equal. Kids should be taught good values. That was obvious not that long ago.

Also, it's so ridiculously rich that producers of content for kids go out of their way to inject gay crap into kid content in order to normalize it as you describe, then when it's noticed, say how dare you make a big deal of it. It is being done intentionally, and then the reaction is called a culture war. Gaslighting defined.


What do you say to your kids when someone at school has two moms or two dads?




The true answer is that no kid has two moms or two dads. That's reality. A kid is born because of a sperm and an egg. Maybe the kid is raised by two women or two men, but every kid has out there somewhere a mom and a dad.

What I'll tell my kids when they ask is (after the true answer above) that that's not the way God intended things to be, but that we still treat people with love.

That question wasn't as "gotcha" as I would imagine you thought it was.


Not just God, but nature.


Who created nature?
Ric Flair


Wooo!!

I don't have a political comment to add but I do think it's interesting that Disney seems to be acting like an immature teenager. Much like a kid who resents his parents but knows in his heart of hearts that they're entirely dependent on their parents for their well being, Disney seems to resent their own IP at this point while also grudgingly acknowledging that they need them. So you get them remaking their classics for the money they potentially offer while simultaneously struggling to celebrate them for what they are. It's a weird juxtaposition.
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All politics aside, this movie has seriously underperformed for its opening. $43 million is just below even the low end projections. Beyond that, international projections were for around $55 million, and it looks to be coming in well short of that at around $44 million. $87 million total box office isn't bad, but it's not great and well short of the $100-$105 million projections from last week.

While getting panned by critics, it does have a 75% popcornmeter on rotten tomatoes. Whether that's enough to help it break even remains to be seen though. Mufasa grew legs and went on to make $750 million, but it also had a 90% popcornometer and released over the holidays. It was also meant to be more universally appealing, whereas Snow White seems to have a target audience of young women and especially young girls.

I could see it doing $350-$450 million all told, which would end up being a pretty big loss. Most estimates I've seen or the break even point at $675 million after production, marketing, and theater splits.
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Because it looks like a bunch of ******s flailing around like those air people in front of stores but set at a Diddy party. Monumentally ******ed.

Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth though.
Well.

You didn't put your own words in your mouth before or after. You just tried to drop an extreme alt right Twitter poster looking for attention and say, "see what this is".

Did not bother to explain how THAT is different than animals rubbing their asses all over every thing. (And you certainly haven't seen the movie.)

If you have a dunk, dunk. Dunk with some facts. Not "I was looking for reasons to dunk on this, and I won't put my own facts in my own words, but this is what I saw from some crazed person on Twitter."
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20ag07 said:

And I'll just answer this for you.

Walt Disney's "legacy" got slung through the mud earlier.

Walt Disney made his name with musical/dancing sequences, "Whistle While You Work" being on top of the list.

So, your problem now is a musical/dancing sequence? With some CGI/people of color involved?

You did not, in 13 seconds, gather anything from that clip.

(Other than a dunk from a movie you were NEVER going to see, from an extreme alt righter who was also looking for a dunk for whatever reason.)

No actual discussion of the movie whatsoever.


You think that looks good ?
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I literally searched Twitter for snow white and posted the first tweet that had that clip. Everything else in this exchange between us has been in your head. Sorry I didn't respond to your indignation on your preferred timeline but between building a fence and going to my kids soccer game, I haven't been doing much internetting today.
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You did enough to go to Twitter, find something that confirmed your bias, and come here and post it.

So you ain't been that busy. (On a movie you were never going to see.)

Did a musical of singing and dancing happen? Yep. That's what happens in musicals with singing and dancing (as they all do). And plenty of them have been quite good.

Is that different than what Walt Disney was doing in 1937? Nope. It was just animals that time.
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I'm disappointed some of you guys are still taking this so seriously. Usually the thread has reached "let's mock everything" by page 10 .
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Yes, that clip absolutely confirmed my bias that this movie has sounded like it would be absolutely ******ed since the first PR issue the production has had.
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The Original Houston 1836 said:

EclipseAg said:

20ag07 said:


Walt Disney made his name with musical/dancing sequences, "Whistle While You Work" being on top of the list.

So, your problem now is a musical/dancing sequence? With some CGI/people of color involved?


Please tell me you aren't comparing that anachronistic monstrosity with "Whistle While You Work."


All I see here is a white person on a power trip enslaving lesser beings - most of them with brown skin tones - to do work without pay.


This is how you troll, people. Take note.
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You are more obsessed with trans people than most liberals are
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Saw it with the family yesterday. Other than the look of the dwarves themselves, I thought it was a really good movie and good interpretation of the story. I think if Disney hadn't tried to smell their own farts about making it a DEI masterpiece, there wouldn't have been so much blowback. Same for if the lead actress had kept her trap shut about people's concerns.

As to the look of the dwarves, they should have just hired seven actual dwarf actors (Brad Williams as Grumpy would have been epic). The CGI squirts were too cartoonish to be mixed in with live-action actors.
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Sea Speed said:

Yes, that clip absolutely confirmed my bias that this movie has sounded like it would be absolutely ******ed since the first PR issue the production has had.


He thinks it looks good
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20ag07 said:

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It's more about the actresses in these roles, the hatred that they have for normal traditional families and gender roles. You have to admit, there is no way the big producers and execs wouldn't have preferred this crazy actress just keep her mouth shut. She is directly responsible for at least millions in lost revenue and nothing can convince me otherwise.
The world you grew up in, assuming you are at least 25, had actresses commenting on politics all the time, at Democratic fundraisers, using their Oscar speeches to comment on politics, etc.

The world you didn't grow up in is one where people just went on that diatribe on a movie they didn't care about, rather than spending Sunday morning with their 4yo daughter, because they are so obsessed with ranting about anybody who doesn't agree with them.


I'm not stupid. Hollywood was ALWAYS liberal. But Meryl Streep and Susan Sarandon weren't advocating for the absolutely f-ing insane sh** your party embraces today.

I swear some of yall are trying NOT to understand what we are saying. Like a bunch of Joy Behar's and Whoopi's on here.

And I spent all f'n day with my daughter and it was awesome. I make a few posts in the morning and you come to that conclusion? Gtfoh

I swear, you liberal male feminists are a piece of work.



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Captain Winky said:

You are more obsessed with trans people than most liberals are


I have had nothing but positive interactions with trans people IRL because I treat them with utmost respect and vice versa. I have a problem with society letting them dominate females in sports competition. Well mostly it's a problem with a batch*t crazy society that accepts it and tries to convince others that it's acceptable and normal.

It truly is a canary in a coal mine for a society and culture that is on the verge of going off its rocker to me. A very large percentage of democrats support my daughter having to face physically superior males in sports….and change and shower with them afterwards, because, after all, they're every bit as female as my daughter. F that psycho sh**, I'll proudly die on this hill. And I swear an oath to get violent if she is ever subjected to that. Luckily, I think society is taken back from the modern deviant liberals and it won't be an issue. This sh** is dying out. Only the hardcore devout liberal zealots who are 100% fueled by an irrational fear and hatred of Orange Man still embrace this lunacy.
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I hope it dies out too. Mostly so I don't have to read the same thing you type over and over and over on every board on this website.
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El Gallo Blanco said:



I'm not stupid ...
This is my opening line in every argument I've ever had with my wife.
My current W-L record is 1-276.
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Captain Winky said:

I hope it dies out too. Mostly so I don't have to read the same thing you type over and over and over on every board on this website.


It's pretty exhausting having to explain ourselves to a bunch of intentionally obtuse supporters of this deviancy when they start twisting our words, hustling insults, and accusing us of being bad fathers etc.

I've given up on trying to explain it, you guys are just being dense.
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Hollywood was ALWAYS liberal. But Meryl Streep and Susan Sarandon weren't advocating for the absolutely f-ing insane sh** your party embraces today.
"My party"

Herein lies the problem with you F16ers.

I've never voted anything other than R in my life, and have voted consistently for 20 years.

You go on diatribes assuming anyone who can't separate 2 things is voting for a party that's not yours.

You would be incorrect.

Some of us, however, can separate politics from Entertainment, and could say that just because an actress has opinions you don't like doesn't mean total cancellation.

Please, opine more on what "my party" means, though. Bc blah blah blah diatribes, without actually reading anything, on something you didn't care to actually read in the first place…

And just like YOU shouldn't be canceled for your online diatribes, neither should an actress.
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What actresses have been canceled?
20ag07
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Well, did ya read the thread?

Or did you just pipe up with random things from Twitter?

Bc multiple of of them.
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20ag07 said:

Well, did ya read the thread?

Or did you just pipe up with random things from Twitter?

Bc multiple of of them.


I asked something similar earlier. Still waiting to hear who got canceled.
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There is plenty of complaining about actresses, but none have been canceled although someone mentioned that zegler doesn't have anything in the pipeline on IMDb. I'm not sure you understand what canceled means.
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20ag07 said:

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Hollywood was ALWAYS liberal. But Meryl Streep and Susan Sarandon weren't advocating for the absolutely f-ing insane sh** your party embraces today.
"My party"

Herein lies the problem with you F16ers.

I've never voted anything other than R in my life, and have voted consistently for 20 years.

You go on diatribes assuming anyone who can't separate 2 things is voting for a party that's not yours.

You would be incorrect.

Some of us, however, can separate politics from Entertainment, and could say that just because an actress has opinions you don't like doesn't mean total cancellation.

Please, opine more on what "my party" means, though. Bc blah blah blah diatribes, without actually reading anything, on something you didn't care to actually read in the first place…

And just like YOU shouldn't be canceled for your online diatribes, neither should an actress.



Another person telling others who should be canceled based on their opinion.

You are telling people they can't cancel someone because of their opinion ? Thanks for being our mom!

Enjoy your Snow White.
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Sea Speed said:

There is plenty of complaining about actresses, but none have been canceled although someone mentioned that zegler doesn't have anything in the pipeline on IMDb. I'm not sure you understand what canceled means.


He/she/they likes to tell you what you can like and don't like and how you should act.
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20ag07 said:

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Hollywood was ALWAYS liberal. But Meryl Streep and Susan Sarandon weren't advocating for the absolutely f-ing insane sh** your party embraces today.
"My party"

Herein lies the problem with you F16ers.

I've never voted anything other than R in my life, and have voted consistently for 20 years.

You go on diatribes assuming anyone who can't separate 2 things is voting for a party that's not yours.

You would be incorrect.

Some of us, however, can separate politics from Entertainment, and could say that just because an actress has opinions you don't like doesn't mean total cancellation.

Please, opine more on what "my party" means, though. Bc blah blah blah diatribes, without actually reading anything, on something you didn't care to actually read in the first place…

And just like YOU shouldn't be canceled for your online diatribes, neither should an actress.

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Me and this stupid thread of grown men arguing about Disney princess movies. For the record, I have read it now and then for laughs. I jumped in last night when I felt appropriate to the lefty lunacy.

But for the record



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Gonna be a fun four years

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I was just about to post the numbers before I saw your post. For comparison, The Little Mermaid pulled in almost $100 million last year on its opening weekend, not including Memorial Day itself.

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Geez. This dong tug of war is super cringe.
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This movie flopping sparks joy.
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aTmAg said:

This movie flopping sparks joy.


Ok, Marie Kondo.
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maroon barchetta said:

aTmAg said:

This movie flopping sparks joy.


Ok, Marie Kondo.
Disney should have watched this before they produce this atrocity:
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AtticusMatlock said:

I was just about to post the numbers before I saw your post. For comparison, The Little Mermaid pulled in almost $100 million last year on its opening weekend, not including Memorial Day itself.


The movie released in March didn't make as much money as the one released Memorial Day weekend? How odd.

Disney knew this thing wouldn't have legs. That's why it got dumped in March, and didn't clog their roll out of Thunderbolts, Lilo & Stich, Fantastic 4, Zootopia 2, and Avatar 3 coming up soon.

yeah, there are some stinkers on the schedule - Freakier Friday is probably terrible, and I'd rather let all 7 CGI dwarves punch me in the face then watch Jared Leto do whatever the hell he's going to do in Tron:Ares, but it's silly to think Disney isn't pleased as punch that $43 million worth of Mouse slaves showed up despite all of the vitriol towards whatever the girl said that's so bad.
 
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