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Well hells bells I thought diversity was a good thing.

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I'm sure you understand 100% black is very diverse. 100% white is pure evil.

Kraft Punk said:

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She's not popular at all

She's being force fed by the msm bc there is an agenda to boost women's basketball & she's what they think we want


No one gives any more of a **** about her than they do the dude w a dong from baylor that got locked up in russia

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This 1000%

Women's basketball is not a real sport.

cc10106 said:

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Apparently pulling for Caitlin Clark equates to hating Angel Reese for some even if you've never even mentioned her. People are really losing their minds over this silly crap.

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Yep. I hate angel reese because she's a ghetto piece of trash, not because of her skin color

She is not attractive, it's just a matter of time before she goes bi.

Kozmozag said:

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She is not attractive, it's just a matter of time before she goes bi.

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Most of them go bi because of the social pressure to conform for acceptance in the wake of years of rejection by the opposite gender. Don't think that is the case for Cait, who could have a never ending sea of D from actual alphas pursuing her.

ChaChing!

I watch basketball all the time. Haven't watched a lick of Caitlyn Clark or any other women's basketball since Texas A&M women won the title. I watched that team.

I'm supposed to believe this chick is the greatest thing ever? Maya Moore was supposed to be that a decade ago as well. She's better than Maya Moore?

I don't know either way, but I do know that everywhere I turn I'm being beat over the head with Women's basketball needing more money and Caitlyn Clark seems to be the horse they've all hitched to to get it done. Even watching mens basketball I think it was JJ Reddick that proclaimed out of nowhere the other day during a game "I Just want women to make more money!"

Good boy, Reddick. Suck that ESPN D

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Nanomachines son said:

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Yes this does have something to do with it. Same reason Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel blew up nationally. They were electric must see TV because they were athletic white guys dominating a sport with a lot of blacks and they had appeal to middle America.

There is no point in denying this.

The fact is people associate with people who look like them. It's how we are made and built. This has been the norm for all of human history.

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Cam Newton
Jameis Winston
Russel Wilson


Hell, look at University of Colorado rating this season.

Lots of examples of black athletes drawing viewers.

Do you really think a black player doing what Manziel and Tebow did wouldn't draw the same attention?

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No, they would not. Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, etc. were all just as talented and successful in college but they weren't even in the same stratosphere popularity wise. Tebow and Manziel were known by virtually everyone, even those who didn't watch football or sports.

Clark has this same sort of appeal from the female side.

Race and how they appeal to middle America absolutely does matter. The black athletes are angry because they will never be able to tap into this. It sucks for them but that's life in a heterogeneous nation. People will naturally gravitate towards those who are most like them. That's just how it works.

People are naturally drawn to people that remind them of themselves or that they identify with. Dateline type shows have far worse ratings when they cover a story about an African American victim. Black people flock to Tyler Perry movies, etc. It isn't new (and it isn't racist).

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People are naturally drawn to people that remind them of themselves or that they identify with. Dateline type shows have far worse ratings when they cover a story about an African American victim. Black people flock to Tyler Perry movies, etc. It isn't new (and it isn't racist).

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Exactly. This is ingrained biologically. It affects everything we do and goes all the way back to our Hunter/gatherer days where we had to view outsiders with suspicion because a single mistake could mean the death of your tribe. You couldn't trust outsiders and this was with relatively small differences looks wise. We're talking about much larger differences now.

Nanomachines son said:

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bmks270 said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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Yes this does have something to do with it. Same reason Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel blew up nationally. They were electric must see TV because they were athletic white guys dominating a sport with a lot of blacks and they had appeal to middle America.

There is no point in denying this.

The fact is people associate with people who look like them. It's how we are made and built. This has been the norm for all of human history.

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Cam Newton
Jameis Winston
Russel Wilson


Hell, look at University of Colorado rating this season.

Lots of examples of black athletes drawing viewers.

Do you really think a black player doing what Manziel and Tebow did wouldn't draw the same attention?

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No, they would not. Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, etc. were all just as talented and successful in college but they weren't even in the same stratosphere popularity wise. Tebow and Manziel were known by virtually everyone, even those who didn't watch football or sports.

Clark has this same sort of appeal from the female side.

Race and how they appeal to middle America absolutely does matter. The black athletes are angry because they will never be able to tap into this. It sucks for them but that's life in a heterogeneous nation. People will naturally gravitate towards those who are most like them. That's just how it works.

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Tiger Woods, although not a college athlete, blows up this argument.

BCG Disciple said:

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Kozmozag said:

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She is not attractive, it's just a matter of time before she goes bi.

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Most of them go bi because of the social pressure to conform for acceptance in the wake of years of rejection by the opposite gender. Don't think that is the case for Cait, who could have a never ending sea of D from actual alphas pursuing her.

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Not sure why; she's a solid 4-5.

misterguinness said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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bmks270 said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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Yes this does have something to do with it. Same reason Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel blew up nationally. They were electric must see TV because they were athletic white guys dominating a sport with a lot of blacks and they had appeal to middle America.

There is no point in denying this.

The fact is people associate with people who look like them. It's how we are made and built. This has been the norm for all of human history.

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Cam Newton
Jameis Winston
Russel Wilson


Hell, look at University of Colorado rating this season.

Lots of examples of black athletes drawing viewers.

Do you really think a black player doing what Manziel and Tebow did wouldn't draw the same attention?

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No, they would not. Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, etc. were all just as talented and successful in college but they weren't even in the same stratosphere popularity wise. Tebow and Manziel were known by virtually everyone, even those who didn't watch football or sports.

Clark has this same sort of appeal from the female side.

Race and how they appeal to middle America absolutely does matter. The black athletes are angry because they will never be able to tap into this. It sucks for them but that's life in a heterogeneous nation. People will naturally gravitate towards those who are most like them. That's just how it works.

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Tiger Woods, although not a college athlete, blows up this argument.

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There is something that people forget about all this.

What makes "white" athletes more popular is because they can both be criticized and defended. So they are in the media more. Their names become more popular. No news outlet would have been trying to paint a black player as a party/player like they did with Johnny Manziel. No news outlet would have attacked a black athlete that was as open about his faith as Tebow was.

So by treating black athletes different by not criticizing them; they actually limit their popularity.

Captn_Ag05 said:

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People are naturally drawn to people that remind them of themselves or that they identify with. Dateline type shows have far worse ratings when they cover a story about an African American victim. Black people flock to Tyler Perry movies, etc. It isn't new (and it isn't racist).

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Why didn't this happen with Kelsey Plum, Sabrina Ionescu, or Breanna Stewart?

None of those players moved the needle like Clark did in hitting 3s from 30 feet out. It's the Steph Curry effect like was previously mentioned which actually started while he was at Davidson during March Madness 15 years ago.

cc10106 said:

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None of those players moved the needle like Clark did in hitting 3s from 30 feet out. It's the Steph Curry effect like was previously mentioned which actually started while he was at Davidson during March Madness 15 years ago.

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That's exactly my point, it isn't so much as white folks watching and gravitating to a white point guard. She is doing things that haven't been done before.

Johnny had a similar effect at A&M as well while Tebow, as great as he was, benefited from playing for a powerhouse program.

I started watching Clark her junior season, but her passing skills are what kept me interested. She looked like Magic or Larry at times throwing the rock around, but she needs to tighten up her game considerably if she's gonna be a star in the WNBA and not just a long range specialist.

misterguinness said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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bmks270 said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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Yes this does have something to do with it. Same reason Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel blew up nationally. They were electric must see TV because they were athletic white guys dominating a sport with a lot of blacks and they had appeal to middle America.

There is no point in denying this.

The fact is people associate with people who look like them. It's how we are made and built. This has been the norm for all of human history.

---

Cam Newton
Jameis Winston
Russel Wilson


Hell, look at University of Colorado rating this season.

Lots of examples of black athletes drawing viewers.

Do you really think a black player doing what Manziel and Tebow did wouldn't draw the same attention?

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No, they would not. Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, etc. were all just as talented and successful in college but they weren't even in the same stratosphere popularity wise. Tebow and Manziel were known by virtually everyone, even those who didn't watch football or sports.

Clark has this same sort of appeal from the female side.

Race and how they appeal to middle America absolutely does matter. The black athletes are angry because they will never be able to tap into this. It sucks for them but that's life in a heterogeneous nation. People will naturally gravitate towards those who are most like them. That's just how it works.

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Tiger Woods, although not a college athlete, blows up this argument.

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Tiger Woods was also one of those rare players like Michael Jordan who was so dominate in comparison to their peers for a period of time that everyone wanted to watch greatness. See also, Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, etc.

Manziel and Tebow were never that far above their peers so that doesn't explain them.

She really is, I enjoy watching her play.

texagbeliever said:

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misterguinness said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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bmks270 said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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Yes this does have something to do with it. Same reason Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel blew up nationally. They were electric must see TV because they were athletic white guys dominating a sport with a lot of blacks and they had appeal to middle America.

There is no point in denying this.

The fact is people associate with people who look like them. It's how we are made and built. This has been the norm for all of human history.

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Cam Newton
Jameis Winston
Russel Wilson


Hell, look at University of Colorado rating this season.

Lots of examples of black athletes drawing viewers.

Do you really think a black player doing what Manziel and Tebow did wouldn't draw the same attention?

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No, they would not. Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, etc. were all just as talented and successful in college but they weren't even in the same stratosphere popularity wise. Tebow and Manziel were known by virtually everyone, even those who didn't watch football or sports.

Clark has this same sort of appeal from the female side.

Race and how they appeal to middle America absolutely does matter. The black athletes are angry because they will never be able to tap into this. It sucks for them but that's life in a heterogeneous nation. People will naturally gravitate towards those who are most like them. That's just how it works.

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Tiger Woods, although not a college athlete, blows up this argument.

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There is something that people forget about all this.

What makes "white" athletes more popular is because they can both be criticized and defended. So they are in the media more. Their names become more popular. No news outlet would have been trying to paint a black player as a party/player like they did with Johnny Manziel. No news outlet would have attacked a black athlete that was as open about his faith as Tebow was.

So by treating black athletes different by not criticizing them; they actually limit their popularity.

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This is also a fair point. There were articles daily about Manziel and Tebow criticizing and praising them. By limiting black athletes only to praise, they aren't allowed to develop the "infamy" aspect of fame.

Unfortunately for black athletes, media is not allowed to criticize them so it does have an affect on their popularity.

Tebow or Johnny didn't even have the juice to get a long time beat reporter banned from covering them at their very first press conference.

First crack off the bat and she was shook.

It is in the same vain as to why all of the recent heroine movies are duds. The female lead characters never fail. Never face criticism. Never have to overcome something.

Just makes for a boring story that isn't relatable. Everyone, regardless of race, struggles. A story without that element is unrelatable.

texagbeliever said:

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misterguinness said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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bmks270 said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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Yes this does have something to do with it. Same reason Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel blew up nationally. They were electric must see TV because they were athletic white guys dominating a sport with a lot of blacks and they had appeal to middle America.

There is no point in denying this.

The fact is people associate with people who look like them. It's how we are made and built. This has been the norm for all of human history.

---

Cam Newton
Jameis Winston
Russel Wilson


Hell, look at University of Colorado rating this season.

Lots of examples of black athletes drawing viewers.

Do you really think a black player doing what Manziel and Tebow did wouldn't draw the same attention?

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No, they would not. Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, etc. were all just as talented and successful in college but they weren't even in the same stratosphere popularity wise. Tebow and Manziel were known by virtually everyone, even those who didn't watch football or sports.

Clark has this same sort of appeal from the female side.

Race and how they appeal to middle America absolutely does matter. The black athletes are angry because they will never be able to tap into this. It sucks for them but that's life in a heterogeneous nation. People will naturally gravitate towards those who are most like them. That's just how it works.

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Tiger Woods, although not a college athlete, blows up this argument.

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There is something that people forget about all this.

What makes "white" athletes more popular is because they can both be criticized and defended. So they are in the media more. Their names become more popular. No news outlet would have been trying to paint a black player as a party/player like they did with Johnny Manziel. No news outlet would have attacked a black athlete that was as open about his faith as Tebow was.

So by treating black athletes different by not criticizing them; they actually limit their popularity.

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I don't think that is it at all. Majority of people in America are white & middle class and they identify with people who look like them. It is that simple. If Clark was ugly as sin, very few would watch her. None of this is racist.

I honestly do think that many Americans have had enough of trashy black loudmouth "woe is me!" females. Just a normal girl who is insanely good and plays hard and seems to be normal and likeable probably stands out and is a breath of fresh air.

Bocephus said:

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texagbeliever said:

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misterguinness said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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bmks270 said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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Yes this does have something to do with it. Same reason Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel blew up nationally. They were electric must see TV because they were athletic white guys dominating a sport with a lot of blacks and they had appeal to middle America.

There is no point in denying this.

The fact is people associate with people who look like them. It's how we are made and built. This has been the norm for all of human history.

---

Cam Newton
Jameis Winston
Russel Wilson


Hell, look at University of Colorado rating this season.

Lots of examples of black athletes drawing viewers.

Do you really think a black player doing what Manziel and Tebow did wouldn't draw the same attention?

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No, they would not. Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, etc. were all just as talented and successful in college but they weren't even in the same stratosphere popularity wise. Tebow and Manziel were known by virtually everyone, even those who didn't watch football or sports.

Clark has this same sort of appeal from the female side.

Race and how they appeal to middle America absolutely does matter. The black athletes are angry because they will never be able to tap into this. It sucks for them but that's life in a heterogeneous nation. People will naturally gravitate towards those who are most like them. That's just how it works.

---

Tiger Woods, although not a college athlete, blows up this argument.

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There is something that people forget about all this.

What makes "white" athletes more popular is because they can both be criticized and defended. So they are in the media more. Their names become more popular. No news outlet would have been trying to paint a black player as a party/player like they did with Johnny Manziel. No news outlet would have attacked a black athlete that was as open about his faith as Tebow was.

So by treating black athletes different by not criticizing them; they actually limit their popularity.

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I don't think that is it at all. Majority of people in America are white & middle class and they identify with people who look like them. It is that simple. If Clark was ugly as sin, very few would watch her. None of this is racist.

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You think Johnny Manziel would have been treated exactly the same if he were black? Really? We have actual cases of black players getting away with much worse around that exact same time. I remember countless threads pointing out the media hypocrisy. LOL

Also, I am not saying she's "ugly as sin". I don't like to call nice ladies ugly period. But she's not someone who stands out as "pretty" imo.

If anybody is going to have internal knowledge of whiteness it's El Gallo White-o.

El Gallo Blanco said:

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Bocephus said:

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texagbeliever said:

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misterguinness said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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bmks270 said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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Yes this does have something to do with it. Same reason Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel blew up nationally. They were electric must see TV because they were athletic white guys dominating a sport with a lot of blacks and they had appeal to middle America.

There is no point in denying this.

The fact is people associate with people who look like them. It's how we are made and built. This has been the norm for all of human history.

---

Cam Newton
Jameis Winston
Russel Wilson


Hell, look at University of Colorado rating this season.

Lots of examples of black athletes drawing viewers.

Do you really think a black player doing what Manziel and Tebow did wouldn't draw the same attention?

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No, they would not. Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, etc. were all just as talented and successful in college but they weren't even in the same stratosphere popularity wise. Tebow and Manziel were known by virtually everyone, even those who didn't watch football or sports.

Clark has this same sort of appeal from the female side.

Race and how they appeal to middle America absolutely does matter. The black athletes are angry because they will never be able to tap into this. It sucks for them but that's life in a heterogeneous nation. People will naturally gravitate towards those who are most like them. That's just how it works.

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Tiger Woods, although not a college athlete, blows up this argument.

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There is something that people forget about all this.

What makes "white" athletes more popular is because they can both be criticized and defended. So they are in the media more. Their names become more popular. No news outlet would have been trying to paint a black player as a party/player like they did with Johnny Manziel. No news outlet would have attacked a black athlete that was as open about his faith as Tebow was.

So by treating black athletes different by not criticizing them; they actually limit their popularity.

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I don't think that is it at all. Majority of people in America are white & middle class and they identify with people who look like them. It is that simple. If Clark was ugly as sin, very few would watch her. None of this is racist.

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You think Johnny Manziel would have been treated exactly the same if he were black? Really? We have actual cases of black players getting away with much worse around that exact same time. I remember countless threads pointing out the media hypocrisy. LOL

Also, I am not saying she's "ugly as sin". I don't like to call nice ladies ugly period. But she's not someone who stands out as "pretty" imo.

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I'm not saying she is gorgeous either - but in game and post game photos may not be the baromoeter.

Bocephus said:

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texagbeliever said:

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misterguinness said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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bmks270 said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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Yes this does have something to do with it. Same reason Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel blew up nationally. They were electric must see TV because they were athletic white guys dominating a sport with a lot of blacks and they had appeal to middle America.

There is no point in denying this.

The fact is people associate with people who look like them. It's how we are made and built. This has been the norm for all of human history.

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Cam Newton
Jameis Winston
Russel Wilson


Hell, look at University of Colorado rating this season.

Lots of examples of black athletes drawing viewers.

Do you really think a black player doing what Manziel and Tebow did wouldn't draw the same attention?

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No, they would not. Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, etc. were all just as talented and successful in college but they weren't even in the same stratosphere popularity wise. Tebow and Manziel were known by virtually everyone, even those who didn't watch football or sports.

Clark has this same sort of appeal from the female side.

Race and how they appeal to middle America absolutely does matter. The black athletes are angry because they will never be able to tap into this. It sucks for them but that's life in a heterogeneous nation. People will naturally gravitate towards those who are most like them. That's just how it works.

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Tiger Woods, although not a college athlete, blows up this argument.

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There is something that people forget about all this.

What makes "white" athletes more popular is because they can both be criticized and defended. So they are in the media more. Their names become more popular. No news outlet would have been trying to paint a black player as a party/player like they did with Johnny Manziel. No news outlet would have attacked a black athlete that was as open about his faith as Tebow was.

So by treating black athletes different by not criticizing them; they actually limit their popularity.

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I don't think that is it at all. Majority of people in America are white & middle class and they identify with people who look like them. It is that simple. If Clark was ugly as sin, very few would watch her. None of this is racist.

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I don't think you got my point. I didn't say any of this was racist. Just that by not exposing black athletes to controversy lime light they create 1 dimensional characters who are less intriguing. You can talk about how Johnny partied too much or was just a normal college kid for hours. How Tebow is too in your face Christian or doing the Lord's work. And more importantly it creates a force for Tebow/Manziel to have to overcome.

What makes Tiger Woods different is that the golf era 1 had never been dominated in the way Tiger did in the modern era. 2. Tiger Woods race was still a big thing. Jackie Robinson is a well known player not because he was the best in his era but because he overcame the race hurdle in baseball.

So pretty much unless a player has an actual race issue to overcome they are denied the opportunity to overcome some obstacle. Which in turn makes them less interesting. Just another way by "helping" people the left is largely hurting people.

Nanomachines son said:

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misterguinness said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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bmks270 said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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Yes this does have something to do with it. Same reason Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel blew up nationally. They were electric must see TV because they were athletic white guys dominating a sport with a lot of blacks and they had appeal to middle America.

There is no point in denying this.

The fact is people associate with people who look like them. It's how we are made and built. This has been the norm for all of human history.

---

Cam Newton
Jameis Winston
Russel Wilson


Hell, look at University of Colorado rating this season.

Lots of examples of black athletes drawing viewers.

Do you really think a black player doing what Manziel and Tebow did wouldn't draw the same attention?

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No, they would not. Kyler Murray, Pat Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, etc. were all just as talented and successful in college but they weren't even in the same stratosphere popularity wise. Tebow and Manziel were known by virtually everyone, even those who didn't watch football or sports.

Clark has this same sort of appeal from the female side.

Race and how they appeal to middle America absolutely does matter. The black athletes are angry because they will never be able to tap into this. It sucks for them but that's life in a heterogeneous nation. People will naturally gravitate towards those who are most like them. That's just how it works.

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Tiger Woods, although not a college athlete, blows up this argument.

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Tiger Woods was also one of those rare players like Michael Jordan who was so dominate in comparison to their peers for a period of time that everyone wanted to watch greatness. See also, Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, etc.

Manziel and Tebow were never that far above their peers so that doesn't explain them.

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Manziel was the most entertaining QB I have ever seen in my lifetime. I still consider him the greatest and most valuable college QB to ever play the game. Our team that year is NOTHING without him. We were a few plays away from likely winning a natty. If Kingsbury had actually known what he had from the start, and tailored his game around Manziel's talents earlier in the season, we very well go undefeated.

He was doing stuff Kyler Murray and Cam Newton could not ever do in a million years...partly due to his reckless, fearless personality...which also obviously contributed to his downfall. Magic trick - video game level stuff. Hell, I bet he inspired Kyler and changed the way certain athletic QB's approached and played the game. Prob guys like Weigman too. He wasn't the fasted guy in the world, but they had scientific articles devoted to the revolutionary way he ran and shifted weight and balance using his arms at top end speeds...I wish I could remember which animal they compared him to...maybe a gazelle?

College QB goat. Not up for debate.

The Dodgers had Spark's rookies Cameron Brink (Stanford) and Rickea Jackson (Tenn.) throw out the first pitches in a recent game.

Pictured because both of the ladies are attractive, and the team is marketing black and white (Ohtani's tastes notwithstanding ).

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/shohei-ohtani-meets-cameron-brink-211633247.html

One thing that shouldn't be open for debate is that Caitlyn Clark is decidedly unattractive. She would garner very little attention off of her looks. If she was actually attractive, she would be an even bigger star.

The reason Caitlyn Clark is getting so much attention where other basketball players have failed is simple: she broke a ton of records right at the moment in history where DEI infused media rooms are desperate to get women's sports on par with men. All the BS about unequal pay for soccer teams while the lead player was incredibly anti-American left them needing SOMEONE to be the face of this movement. They want women and men to be seen as equals in sports. Clark comes along and plays lights out. So what did they do? They talked about her over and over and over and over and finally got a few more people to tune in. Their plan worked. It just happened to be with a white chick.

The whole racial approach is ******ed. Everyone in my generation wanted to be Michael Jordan. We'd fight over who got to be Emmitt Smith or Barry Sanders. Ken Griffey Jr. was the man. A-Rod was the second choice. And it's because all of these people were badasses in their sport and had tons of media attention heaped upon them. It wasn't because theyre black.

The Banned said:

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One thing that shouldn't be open for debate is that Caitlyn Clark is decidedly unattractive. She would garner very little attention off of her looks. If she was actually attractive, she would be an even bigger star.

The reason Caitlyn Clark is getting so much attention where other basketball players have failed is simple: she broke a ton of records right at the moment in history where DEI infused media rooms are desperate to get women's sports on par with men. All the BS about unequal pay for soccer teams while the lead player was incredibly anti-American left them needing SOMEONE to be the face of this movement. They want women and men to be seen as equals in sports. Clark comes along and plays lights out. So what did they do? They talked about her over and over and over and over and finally got a few more people to tune in. Their plan worked. It just happened to be with a white chick.

The whole racial approach is ******ed. Everyone in my generation wanted to be Michael Jordan. We'd fight over who got to be Emmitt Smith or Barry Sanders. Ken Griffey Jr. was the man. A-Rod was the second choice. And it's because all of these people were badasses in their sport and had tons of media attention heaped upon them. It wasn't because theyre black.

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Bolded is 100% spot on. If only they could get women to watch other women play sports...

Favorite part of all this is when theres a big game in progress and ESPN decides it's a good time to feature women's swimming on the front page.

The Banned said:

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One thing that shouldn't be open for debate is that Caitlyn Clark is decidedly unattractive.

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This is completely subjective. I don't think Clark is unattractive unless she's whining constantly to the refs like LeBron, but I also played ball long enough growing up to not be intimidated or put off by a female that can hold her own against guys like she did in AAU.

All the "she's a man" stuff is silly to me as well, but I assume that has to do with something else.

I don't think CC is unattractive. She can look "nice" if she wanted to. She won't be eye catchingly pretty but she is definitely not ugly. She is maybe slightly above average in terms of looks. Won't hurt her.

I only hope she doesn't get all lesbo and dress up like a man and expect men to swoon over her looks.