aggiehawg said:

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tk for tu juan said:

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The flames at the bottom are probably from high pressure escaping thru the bottom door seal (path of least resistance until pressure wave hits the glass higher up)

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Directional charges?

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Directed from underneath the car up.

aggiehawg said:

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Slowed it down a bit pic.twitter.com/TeXGXZWcIx

— Brick Suit (@Brick_Suit) January 5, 2025

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Maybe I want to think there's more here and it's causing my brain to see things. Ive watched the real time video zoomed in a few times and used the scrubber to slowly progress through it. There are a couple of things I "see" that I wonder if anyone else does.

It looks like you can make out the silhouette of his head before the explosion. I didn't see any movement from him during the few seconds before the blast. Once the explosion initiates and you can see his profile, he doesn't appear to move. Not even a flinch from the flame. Not when the concussion from the explosion pushes the roof out right before the smoke covers the vehicle.

Anyone else?

BMX Bandit said:

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FIDO95 said:

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I thought I had heard Musk was trying to get the recording from the inside of the truck. Anyone have any confirmation on this? Apparently there are cameras monitoring the driver that are recording. .

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Why would anyone buy this vehicle?

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Already busted before for employees sharing videos collected by cars for their own amusement, inside and out. Supposedly you can turn off data sharing (which I'm sure is buried deep in some menu somewhere), but if you believe that actually works, I have a bridge to sell you

https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/

Jeeper79 said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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90% chance this is simply another Tesla fire, not intentional.

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99.9% chance

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Hmm, you say!

Shoefly! said:

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Jeeper79 said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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90% chance this is simply another Tesla fire, not intentional.

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99.9% chance

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Hmm, you say!

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To his credit, he gave himself a 0.1% chance of being wrong.

Goodnight Irene said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Slowed it down a bit pic.twitter.com/TeXGXZWcIx

— Brick Suit (@Brick_Suit) January 5, 2025

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Maybe I want to think there's more here and it's causing my brain to see things. Ive watched the real time video zoomed in a few times and used the scrubber to slowly progress through it. There are a couple of things I "see" that I wonder if anyone else does.

It looks like you can make out the silhouette of his head before the explosion. I didn't see any movement from him during the few seconds before the blast. Once the explosion initiates and you can see his profile, he doesn't appear to move. Not even a flinch from the flame. Not when the concussion from the explosion pushes the roof out right before the smoke covers the vehicle.

Anyone else?

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Could he have had the trigger for the explosive tied to the pulling of the trigger so he essentially is shooting himself and triggering the blast at the same time?

As for movement of him, I can't make it out with enough detail to make any conclusions.

BMX Bandit said:

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FIDO95 said:

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I thought I had heard Musk was trying to get the recording from the inside of the truck. Anyone have any confirmation on this? Apparently there are cameras monitoring the driver that are recording. .

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Why would anyone buy this vehicle?

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My iPhone can do the same things.

BMX Bandit said:

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FIDO95 said:

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I thought I had heard Musk was trying to get the recording from the inside of the truck. Anyone have any confirmation on this? Apparently there are cameras monitoring the driver that are recording. .

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Why would anyone buy this vehicle?

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The same reason why people buy a phone that provides way more info on a person than the car can. Because they don't think about that or if they do, they still like all the other things the phone/car can do for them that they enjoy.

My iPhone is not videoing me all day. (That I know of)

BMX Bandit said:

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My iPhone is not videoing me all day. (That I know of)

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It can but the iPhone is constantly taking your picture to see if your face is has started or is still looking at the screen on the latest models.


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It's taking a sort of picture but that could easily be changed if Apple or a security service wanted it to.

And Apple has just agreed to pay a huge settlement for "accidentally"eavesdropping on millions of people

Madman said:

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And Apple has just agreed to pay a huge settlement for "accidentally"eavesdropping on millions of people

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That dam Forrest Gump!

Like I said, it may be my brain filling in blanks. But it definitely looks like he is upright at the initial blast and in the same position once the smoke overtakes the frame. That's been discussed. If you look where his head is and scrub backwards to reception, there is a lighter area you can make out where his head is that doesn't appear to move.l throughout. If it is his head, how would he trigger a bomb, lift a gun to his head and pull the trigger without moving or be affected by the blast?

Just thought it was curious

BMX Bandit said:

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My iPhone is not videoing me all day. (That I know of)

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Maybe but it is telling everyone your location, what you are searching, buying, texting, saying, etc. A video is way less sensitive than conversations, transaction history, etc.

I can't say what happened especially from that video.

My one guess would be was likely right handed (just given the vast majority of people are) and the gun would then have been on the side away from the video along with the detonation trigger. He would have had to move his head much to raise the gun and pull the trigger.

FIDO95 said:

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I thought I had heard Musk was trying to get the recording from the inside of the truck. Anyone have any confirmation on this? Apparently there are cameras monitoring the driver that are recording. This would be a slam dunk case if the Tesla Cybertruck has that technology and the video survives the fire and the bleach bit.

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He better make sure he gets access before FBI takes the vehicle or it will "be lost" or "scubbed accidentally" by some stupid but deliberate `mistake' like Jan 6 recordings.

Goodnight Irene said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Slowed it down a bit pic.twitter.com/TeXGXZWcIx

— Brick Suit (@Brick_Suit) January 5, 2025

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Maybe I want to think there's more here and it's causing my brain to see things. Ive watched the real time video zoomed in a few times and used the scrubber to slowly progress through it. There are a couple of things I "see" that I wonder if anyone else does.

It looks like you can make out the silhouette of his head before the explosion. I didn't see any movement from him during the few seconds before the blast. Once the explosion initiates and you can see his profile, he doesn't appear to move. Not even a flinch from the flame. Not when the concussion from the explosion pushes the roof out right before the smoke covers the vehicle.

Anyone else?

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Agree. The italics is also what see, and agree that you can see even before the explosion. Not well, but you can. The flare up then is such that you are certain of what you saw instant before. What it means though, is unclear to me. Do you see what I thought might be the gun at 45 angle toward his chin? If its there? A very hard outline in front of him but nothing definite. Or maybe not there at all.

That fireball will expand until it hits something with sufficient mass that doesn't immediately combust.

Hell, the fireball even managed to escape under the driver's door. Yet, negative expansion to the right where the driver's seat is? In the absence of a directional charge, that would be unusual.

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2040huck said:

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Dude was MAGA and a big Musk fan. Laughing at all the posts the last couple of days that say only lefties are violent

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Well, ultimately he only seriously harmed himself, while your lefty the same day killed 10 innocent people.

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Don't forget all the they/thems that have a penchant for shooting up little kids

AggieVictor10 said:

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2040huck said:

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Dude was MAGA and a big Musk fan. Laughing at all the posts the last couple of days that say only lefties are violent

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Don't expect anybody here to own it.

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Own what?

Krombopulos Michael said:

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Aggie_Boomin 21 said:

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Reports are he put the gun in is mouth and shot up not temples.

In general I think everyone trying to analyze that video to great detail is wasting time, just admit you can't see much at all.

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Some of y'all are just terrible at spotting the clues......

We can't see much in that video. But you know what we can't see? its a **** load of blood....If he blew his brains out with a .50 cal. THAT BRAIN WOULD BE ALL OVER THE INSIDE OF THAT VEHICLE. SAME WITH A ****LOAD OF BLOOD.....

And from my post from few pages back.....The bullet would have exited the vehicle. You should be able to see the exit hole or at the very minimum shattered glass.

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Where would you see the blood? He shot himself up through his mouth and the through the top of his head. How bloody would a window realistically be? How do you know the bullet would exit? What's the velocity of a .50 cal after it has gone through a human skull?

captkirk said:

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AggieVictor10 said:

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2040huck said:

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Dude was MAGA and a big Musk fan. Laughing at all the posts the last couple of days that say only lefties are violent

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Don't expect anybody here to own it.

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Own what?

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That was posted when it was falsely believed that this guy was a MAGA terrorist. Now we have learned he may be indeed MAGA, but had a different goal. So the idea this guy somehow proves Maga prone to violance like leftists is a falsity. Besides, an exception here or there isn't going to come close any more than the proverbial Christian bomber to Islamist ones.

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I can't say what happened especially from that video.

My one guess would be was likely right handed (just given the vast majority of people are) and the gun would then have been on the side away from the video along with the detonation trigger. He would have had to move his head much to raise the gun and pull the trigger.

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I had been confused on this too. Previous page says its alleged he shot himself in the mouth. So look again and see if you see what looks like pistol angle upward.

I'm not certain I make that out. I can see what I think you do but, like everything else with this case, there's more questions than answers.

The facts are themselves really weird. Suicide but committee 14 hours away in a rental car with explosives. The trump Tesla stuff and "bomb" I pretty much made as a kid just lend themselves to some wild theories. But the fact he doesn't appear to move or even flinch on top of that, even without the Shawn Ryan stuff , is odd

I don't think what this man did has anything to do with politics. He sent his suicide note to two different sources to corroborate from an email he's used in the past.

In short, he used it as an ominous wake up call that china has defeated us militarily with anti gravity unmanned propulsion systems. He claims these are the drones we see seeing everywhere, but namely over New Jersey.

He also references war crimes in Afghanistan as well as the mental health effect on the pullout.

Take it for what you want:

The real email/manifesto sent to @samosaur. pic.twitter.com/9LDIhIBS0q

— Shawn Ryan (@ShawnRyan762) January 3, 2025

Almost certain I see his silhouette, but y'all must have superhuman vision to be making out an angled gun.

Yes that has been covered in the 17 pages of this thread

I don't think he's dead.

Now you're contributing something interesting!

BallerStaf2003 said:

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I don't think he's dead.

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I typically would buy into the "crazy vet with PTSD goes schizzo and kills himself" theory by default as by far the most plausible, but this one just feels really fishy to me. Also a general gut feeling that I can't shake that 2025 and the next few yrs is going to be f-ing crazy. Hope I am wrong.

I totally agree. Something is brewing and it's really bad. Has nothing to do with who's president or our government, crap is just bad worldwide and continues to spiral.

I honestly was hoping the orbs were aliens trying to protect us. lol

El Gallo Blanco said:

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Almost certain I see his silhouette, but y'all must have superhuman vision to be making out an angled gun.

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Not an angled gun made out. A slanted projection along his torso that is either just part of the shirt/jacket or an external object about where it should be. Its not even definite its there. But what it IS to me is present enough where I would never say there is NO gun there, like would probably say for the left temple, for example. That's all. Hope that is clearer.

titan said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Almost certain I see his silhouette, but y'all must have superhuman vision to be making out an angled gun.

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Not an angled gun made out. A slanted projection along his torso that is either just part of the shirt/jacket or an external object about where it should be. Its not even definite its there. But what it IS to me is present enough where I would never say there is NO gun there, like would probably say for the left temple, for example. That's all. Hope that is clearer.

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Ah gotcha…still the weirdest thing to me is his head position. You kill yourself and your entire body goes limp, noodle neck with downward head. Even with seatbelt…may be a plausible explanation that I can't think of I guess.

El Gallo Blanco said:

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BallerStaf2003 said:

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I don't think he's dead.

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I typically would buy into the "crazy vet with PTSD goes schizzo and kills himself" theory by default as by far the most plausible, but this one just feels really fishy to me. Also a general gut feeling that I can't shake that 2025 and the next few yrs is going to be f-ing crazy. Hope I am wrong.

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Where my spidey sense became alert was when Shoemate and Ryan were getting a lot of attention from some highly placed military officials and intelligence for just asking a few questions about Livelsberger in an attempt to verify some of that email.

Random SOF with PTSD doesn't get that far up the radar to get their attention and response, not that quickly that is.