Accident at trump vegas?

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HolmesUkraine said:


Suspected Las Vegas Cybertruck Bomber Was a 'Big' Trump Supporter


Smells like propaganda.
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What does that mean?
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Teslag said:

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Teslag said:

I had a degree in hand when I enlisted with the intent to later commission if I wanted. Made NCO pretty quick and then went the warrant officer route. Best of both worlds.
Serious kwerstion ... What do you call a warrant officer when speaking to one?

I know my dad, an E7, was always "Sarge" or "Sgt", and other ranks have their easy names..but a WO?

Just wondering.


Not sure of other branches but in the Army a WO1 is mister and WO2 or higher is chief. So when I was WO1 I was Mister Teslag and now as a WO3 it's Chief Teslag or usually just chief.

But the other poster is right. I'm rarely around. Warrants have defined roles and are considered SME's and we don't really lead troops as commissioned officers do. So we exist in a gray world and are pretty much left alone.
Query. Are the women also called `Mister'?? If so, I wonder if that is what Roddenberry had in mind.
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Teslag said:

BigRobSA said:

Teslag said:

I had a degree in hand when I enlisted with the intent to later commission if I wanted. Made NCO pretty quick and then went the warrant officer route. Best of both worlds.
Serious kwerstion ... What do you call a warrant officer when speaking to one?

I know my dad, an E7, was always "Sarge" or "Sgt", and other ranks have their easy names..but a WO?

Just wondering.


Not sure of other branches but in the Army a WO1 is mister and WO2 or higher is chief. So when I was WO1 I was Mister Teslag and now as a WO3 it's Chief Teslag or usually just chief.

But the other poster is right. I'm rarely around. Warrants have defined roles and are considered SME's and we don't really lead troops as commissioned officers do. So we exist in a gray world and are pretty much left alone.
When I was company XO I loved having my BN maintenance chief in big meetings involving the brigade commander. WOs don't have to play politics and mythical unicorns.
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Fat Black Swan said:

There are some wild theories going around.




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aggiehawg said:

What does that mean?


No clue. Here's the rest of that thread.

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Law enforcement sources said that Livelsberger was on active duty with the Army serving in Germany and was on leave in Colorado at the time of the incident. His wife hadn't heard from him in several days prior to the incident, the source said.

The unit source, an individual serving in Germany, has made the following claims and provided the linked images in the first post:

#1 He was a Trump and Elon supporter. Not radically so, but a solid supporter.

#2 His Signal safety number changed once before the explosion and then his photo and safety number changed AFTER the explosion (see photo from our Signal group chat).

#3 The first safety # change makes sense because he lives in Europe and he would have flown from EU to US. If he did that around December 29th, then the first safety # change makes sense as US citizens who work in EU and fly back and forth for vacation or work often will use a US sim or a different phone for convenience (different cell company in Europe vs US, different SIM, etc).

#4 If he didn't fly on or about the 29th, then that brings #3 into question.

#5 Elon says that he unlocked the truck after the explosion to help law enforcement. He claims it only locked due to the force of the blast. However, if it can be remotely unlocked then it can be remotely locked. Just a random thought I had and probably unrelated.

#6 The individual stationed in Germany also tried to make a NSFW Reddit community to get to the bottom of this, but within 2 minutes of his first post (this same message) it was banned.

The individual concluded by stating "Something fishy is going on and I can't explain it. I'm deeply concerned about an impending series of red flag attacks in the USA."

His NAME also changed from Matt Berg to Matt in Signal AFTER the explosion. This was discovered by the unit member after their command made them aware of the incident. This is linked in the first photo in the thread.

How a dead man changes their photo, safety number, and name in Signal is beyond me. Any help getting to the bottom of this would be appreciated.

Was he dead with a GSW to the head prior to arrival which is why the self driving car was needed or was this done just prior to detonation?? Does anyone have a link to the press conference where this was stated?
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UPDATE: CyberTruck Trump Hotel Vegas Bomber

Full Presser LVMPD: A Lot of Weird Stuff

a partially burnt Military ID and Passport was found, ID'ing the suspect as Matthew Livelsberger

The body wasn't able to be removed for a long time because he was burnt beyond recognition
Several Tattoots were partially identified, on his stomach and arm which makes them believe it's him.

a Desert Eagle .50 Caliber semiautomatic pistol was found, as well an SLR Model B30 Firearm

an iPhone, smartwatch, and credit cards were also found

he sustained a gunshot wound to the head prior to the detonation of the vehicle…
despite there being no reports of gunshots being heard just before.

He served in the military, and both subjects from the New Orleans Attack and this man served at Fort Bragg.
they also both served in Afghanistan
they also used the same app to rent their vehicles

he traveled over 800 miles in the CyberTruck to Las Vegas
he made a number of stops before he arrived at Trump hotel

The vehicle exploded within 17 seconds of his arrival…

It just had to be 17…
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Wait Before Assuming Guilt |
Matthew Livelsberger is a suspect in the Tesla Vegas bombing at the Trump Hotel.

Twice last month, someone pretending to be a Green Beret from my former Operation Detachment Alpha's (ODA) sister-team contacted me, and showed extensive knowledge of personal information about the Green Beret they claimed to be (who is still on active duty).

The person who contacted me claimed to be suicidal, likely in an attempt to get me to SWAT "his" house with either police or Green Berets to make sure he was OK. This would have given away his location if it was not already known.

Matt Livelsberger served on the same ODA and held the same position as the person who was impersonated.

A lot is not adding up about this situation in Vegas.
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That escalated quickly.

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A lot is not adding up about this situation in Vegas.
Sounds familiar from some years ago.
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Set off the stuff in the back of the truck with a delayed fuse or timer, then shot himself in the head so he didn't burn to death?
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Fat Black Swan said:


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Wait Before Assuming Guilt |
Matthew Livelsberger is a suspect in the Tesla Vegas bombing at the Trump Hotel.

Twice last month, someone pretending to be a Green Beret from my former Operation Detachment Alpha's (ODA) sister-team contacted me, and showed extensive knowledge of personal information about the Green Beret they claimed to be (who is still on active duty).

The person who contacted me claimed to be suicidal, likely in an attempt to get me to SWAT "his" house with either police or Green Berets to make sure he was OK. This would have given away his location if it was not already known.

Matt Livelsberger served on the same ODA and held the same position as the person who was impersonated.

A lot is not adding up about this situation in Vegas.


I am a member of Matt Tardio's subscription podcast- he is AWESOME and I think he is pretty honest guy.
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I'm old enough to remember when there was a SECOND attempted assassination against Donald Trump in 2024.

Dude had a fetish for supporting Ukraine. Guess who else supported Ukraine...


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Hmm

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DNA results come back a lot faster these days. I can only assume the military has a DNA database?

Can anyone confirm that speculation on my part?
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Yep, she seems stable. I'd more than likely have a dead man switch too if I had to deal with that.
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aggiehawg said:

DNA results come back a lot faster these days. I can only assume the military has a DNA database?

Can anyone confirm that speculation on my part?


Yes, we give DNA samples in boot camp, gave them again when we deployed for OEF/OIF.
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Thanks. I assumed that was for body identification but was not sure.

I mean, military medical inspections involve cheek spreads and then cheek swabs./that's a joke.
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Sure didn't feel like a Q-Tip when they swabbed those cheeks. Still not sure how he did it, when both hands were on my shoulders.
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That was done so we could clone an army of Devil Dogs.

They should be ready for World War III!

Those DNA samples proved helpful
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P.U.T.U said:

How his social media is he never was front line, he was always support. ODA green berets have very strict rules on what they can post about on social media and he broke all kinds of rules. I have friends in 5th and 7th group, they deleted their social media platforms and haven't been back on sense. He also said he was an 18X which means you are a highly qualified civilian and go to green beret qualification school without any military experience. Rare but after Afghanistan they started pushing this, especially for college graduates.

Also graduated from a military college in 2019 but stayed enlisted, also rare but not unheard of. But by stating enlisted he was likely missing out on several thousand a month. Was probably just in the national guard at that time but who knows.

One of those situations if it were fish I wouldn't eat it.

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Simply speculating...CIA operative???
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but upon what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force! But Jesus Christ founded His upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him. - Napoleon Bonaparte

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That wasn't a Q-tip
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Not sure why this isn't a bigger deal nation wide.
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AggieKO said:

Not sure why this isn't a bigger deal nation wide.


Makes you wonder
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New Orleans is overshadowing it because ultimately it was just a culprit killed (supposedly --we may yet learn the driver was set up) and other than the truck the damage limited.
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I'm nervous about the gun shot wound to the head. It doesn't feel right. I want to see this guy driving. It will suck if he was killed and a smart car was used to drive him to the hotel.

Who drives around with their passport?

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How did the people standing outside of the lobby not notice the fireworks being loaded into the bed of the truck?
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ApachePilot said:

I'm nervous about the gun shot wound to the head. It doesn't feel right. I want to see this guy driving. It will suck if he was killed and a smart car was used to drive him to the hotel.

Who drives around with their passport?


Brings to mind another occasion where a passport was found. You are right to be nervous --- it is starting to look a little like `make sure is identified a certain way-ish'.
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ApachePilot said:

I'm nervous about the gun shot wound to the head. It doesn't feel right. I want to see this guy driving. It will suck if he was killed and a smart car was used to drive him to the hotel.

Who drives around with their passport?


It's been reported that he was on leave from Germany. So there you go.
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ApachePilot said:

I'm nervous about the gun shot wound to the head. It doesn't feel right. I want to see this guy driving. It will suck if he was killed and a smart car was used to drive him to the hotel.

Who drives around with their passport?




Teslas won't self drive unless your eyes are on the road. It monitors you to make sure you're paying attention while in self drive mode. And usually it asks for you to take over for small things that are confusing in a city environment, and will stop the car if you don't respond.
 
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