nortex97 said:

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It's not the frequency of the fires, it's the type/danger they represent. And since they are so 'infrequent' it sure seems odd this happened right in front of Trump Tower Vegas etc, just a few hours after an EV was used in a mass murder/terrorist attack in New Orleans.

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IDK man. Those cybertrucks light up pretty often. Just yesterday one burned up in a Georgia parking lot.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/firefighters-extinguish-tesla-truck-fire-085324906.html

nortex97 said:

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It's not the frequency of the fires, it's the type/danger they represent. And since they are so 'infrequent' it sure seems odd this happened right in front of Trump Tower Vegas etc, just a few hours after an EV was used in a mass murder/terrorist attack in New Orleans.

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A barge knocked a section of the SPI causeway down within a few days of the twin towers being struck. Multiple people died, including someone I went to high school with.

The two events had nothing to do with each other. The human brain is hardwired to see patterns. It helps with processing new information. But it can also cause us to see things that aren't there.

I just haven't seen any data as to cybertruck fire frequencies vs. other vehicles (EV or otherwise). I am curious who rented/operated that cybertruck though. Active crime scene?

🚨 #BREAKING UPDATE: Police are now calling the Cybertruck explosion outside Trump Tower in Las Vegas an “ACTIVE CRIME SCENE.”

Multiple injuries are being reported as well.

Is someone trying to send a message? pic.twitter.com/Ty0RICpBv0

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) January 1, 2025

From a purely political perspective, Trump, and Musk alike are enemies of the FBI/CIA, and Iran/Democrats etc. I don't think it's likely this vehicle just happened to catch fire there this am, personally.

nortex97 said:

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I just haven't seen any data as to cybertruck fire frequencies vs. other vehicles (EV or otherwise). I am curious who rented/operated that cybertruck though. Active crime scene?

🚨 #BREAKING UPDATE: Police are now calling the Cybertruck explosion outside Trump Tower in Las Vegas an “ACTIVE CRIME SCENE.”

Multiple injuries are being reported as well.

Is someone trying to send a message? pic.twitter.com/Ty0RICpBv0

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) January 1, 2025

From a purely political perspective, Trump, and Musk alike are enemies of the FBI/CIA, and Iran/Democrats etc. I don't think it's likely this vehicle just happened to catch fire there this am, personally.

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I know if I wanted someone dead, the first thing I'd do is start a fire to someone else's property somewhere they're not even at to show them I mean business.

I smell a rat.

Jeeper79 said:

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nortex97 said:

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I just haven't seen any data as to cybertruck fire frequencies vs. other vehicles (EV or otherwise). I am curious who rented/operated that cybertruck though. Active crime scene?

🚨 #BREAKING UPDATE: Police are now calling the Cybertruck explosion outside Trump Tower in Las Vegas an “ACTIVE CRIME SCENE.”

Multiple injuries are being reported as well.

Is someone trying to send a message? pic.twitter.com/Ty0RICpBv0

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) January 1, 2025

From a purely political perspective, Trump, and Musk alike are enemies of the FBI/CIA, and Iran/Democrats etc. I don't think it's likely this vehicle just happened to catch fire there this am, personally.

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I know if I wanted someone dead, the first thing I'd do is start a fire to someone else's property somewhere they're not even at to show them I mean business.

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Being a smartass doesn't fool anyone at this point.

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I know if I wanted someone dead, the first thing I'd do is start a fire to someone else's property somewhere they're not even at to show them I mean business.

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If the intent is to terrorize the country for re-electing Trump, this would be evinced by such a pattern though. Not sure why you think I saw it as an assassination attempt. I'm more concerned about Hamza Bin Laden than angry American leftists vandalizing Trump properties, fwiw.

Question? When EV catches fire are there continuing explosions?

Looks like fireworks going off

Krombopulos Michael said:

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Want to recalculate that percentage?

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no

That's terrorism with explosion sending shrapnel everywhere to hurt people. Look at all the projectiles going everywhere

Jesus

These are coordinated.

I BET that Cyber truck was rented via Turo.

Supposedly the New Orleans pickup used was a ford lightning.

Doctor51 said:

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That's terrorism with explosion sending shrapnel everywhere to hurt people. Look at all the projectiles going everywhere

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https://www.evfiresafe.com/post/electric-car-explosions

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While the terminology 'electric car explosion' is great for search engine clicks, the correct term we prefer to use is vapour cloud explosion (VCE).

When an EV battery pack goes into thermal runaway, toxic & flammable gases are vented from the lithium ion battery cells. In some cases, primarily in enclosed spaces, the gases form a large vapour cloud.

Around 700L of gases are released for every 1kWh of battery capacity*; to put that in perspective, a Tesla Model 3 can have up to a 75kWh battery, & some newer EV models coming to market may have around 100kWh.

When there is a point of ignition, such as an overheating battery cell, the vapour cloud does one of two things;

• around 90% of the time, the gases ignite quickly but not explosively, sucking back the vapours as they burn;
• or the gases explode, instantly propagating combustion at subsonic speeds, driven by heat transfer.

Both pose significant risks to emergency responders, as they may happen rapidly &, if you don't know the signs of thermal runaway, without much warning.

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CanyonAg77 said:

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90% chance this is simply another Tesla fire, not intentional.

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Don't mean to rain on your parade but EV in general and Tesla in particular are actually less likely than ICE cars to have non-crash related fires.

https://normantaylor.com/blog/which-cars-catch-fire-the-most/

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Tesla has also faced scrutiny over vehicle fires. However, electric vehicles (EVs) are generally less likely to catch fire than traditional gasoline-powered cars. Since 2014, there have allegedly been 83 fatalities linked to Tesla fires, and reports indicate 218 fire incidents involving Tesla vehicles between 2013 and early 2024.

Despite these incidents, Tesla vehicles still have a lower fire risk than cars with internal combustion engines.

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This is, actually, all BUT irrelevant.

You can extinguish a ICE car fire in any number of ways, including with regular water. You almost can't extinguish an EV fire, at least not effectively, with much of anything.

Your statement is a LITTLE bit like saying nuclear weapons aren't harmful because they haven't been used much.

Could just as easily been any Ram or Jeep product…

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

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CanyonAg has been bodybagged. He was very wrong and struggling to come to terms with it.

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Nope.

You have a vehicle that can explode.

It explodes.

Film at 11.

If it were a terrorist event, ask yourself why it did so little damage. Was anyone hurt? Is there structural damage to the hotel?

It is not impossible that it was a terrorist attack.

If so, it was a pretty lousy one.

Yeah that's a terrorist attack imho. For publicity, not deaths, which is nice. I would theorize this is less likely though as such to be an islamic army type attack, more likely domestic leftists/antifa/communists/democrats.

NEW: Video shows Tesla Cybertruck explosion at the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas. No word yet on the cause pic.twitter.com/tR9UabrsH4

— BNO News (@BNONews) January 1, 2025

You can see the flash detonation inside the truck cab. Sure looks like a bomb. A weak one admittedly.

CanyonAg77 said:

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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

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CanyonAg has been bodybagged. He was very wrong and struggling to come to terms with it.

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Nope.

You have a vehicle that can explode.

It explodes.

Film at 11.

If it were a terrorist event, ask yourself why it did so little damage. Was anyone hurt? Is there structural damage to the hotel?

It is not impossible that it was a terrorist attack.

If so, it was a pretty lousy one.

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Gotta side with Canyon here. Yes, this could have been deliberate. But, Teslas do ignite. More often than pro EV people are willing to admit. And of all their models, they've had the most difficulties with the Cybertruck.

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

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CanyonAg has been bodybagged. He was very wrong and struggling to come to terms with it.

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While we are at it.

I hate to point out obvious but if that truck was recorded pulling up to the valet.....unless the driver blew himself up in the truck. He's on camera (multiple cameras) fleeing the hotel.


Anyone want to calculate the odds of a cyber truck blowing up right at the front door of a Trump Hotel.

If these things were blowing up like this on a regular basis, we would have a couple of *****Official EV Fire Threads***** almost as often as we have a civil war threads on F16.

You can also see smoke coming from all four wheel wells prior. And the entire explosion comes from the floor of the vehicle.

I'm saying now this was just a battery fire/explosion

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LOYAL AG said:

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CanyonAg77 said:

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90% chance this is simply another Tesla fire, not intentional.

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Don't mean to rain on your parade but EV in general and Tesla in particular are actually less likely than ICE cars to have non-crash related fires.

https://normantaylor.com/blog/which-cars-catch-fire-the-most/

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Tesla has also faced scrutiny over vehicle fires. However, electric vehicles (EVs) are generally less likely to catch fire than traditional gasoline-powered cars. Since 2014, there have allegedly been 83 fatalities linked to Tesla fires, and reports indicate 218 fire incidents involving Tesla vehicles between 2013 and early 2024.

Despite these incidents, Tesla vehicles still have a lower fire risk than cars with internal combustion engines.

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This is, actually, all BUT irrelevant.

You can extinguish a ICE car fire in any number of ways, including with regular water. You almost can't extinguish an EV fire, at least not effectively, with much of anything.

Your statement is a LITTLE bit like saying nuclear weapons aren't harmful because they haven't been used much.

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Yeah, no. You're moving the goalposts from "cars prone to catch fire" to "what happens when a given car does catch fire". A car fires is catastrophic probably close to 100% of the time. Given that I think I'll take the car that is less prone to catch fire.

Teslag said:

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You can also see smoke coming from all four wheel wells prior. And the entire explosion comes from the floor of the vehicle.

I'm saying now this was just a battery fire/explosion

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Why do you hate EVs so muuuuuuuch!?




Looks like a typical EV fire, and with all the hypervigilance right now, everything seems "coordinated".

I very well could be wrong, but I operate off logic and not emotions. I'm a dude.

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CanyonAg77 said:

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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

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CanyonAg has been bodybagged. He was very wrong and struggling to come to terms with it.

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Nope.

You have a vehicle that can explode.

It explodes.

Film at 11.

If it were a terrorist event, ask yourself why it did so little damage. Was anyone hurt? Is there structural damage to the hotel?

It is not impossible that it was a terrorist attack.

If so, it was a pretty lousy one.

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Gotta side with Canyon here. Yes, this could have been deliberate. But, Teslas do ignite. More often than pro EV people are willing to admit. And of all their models, they've had the most difficulties with the Cybertruck.

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That car didn't "ignite," it went up in an explosion that shredded its ultra hard stainless steel paneling like tissue paper.

Maybe it's just a coincidence that a symbol of a major Trump supporter happened to suffer an edge of the bell curve explosion right in front a Trump building, but that's a lot to swallow. I think it's more likely that somebody was trying to send a message. I'm happy to be convinced otherwise if people have videos showing EVs catching fire and blowing up like that one did (canyon's sad video doesn't count).

Krombopulos Michael said:

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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

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CanyonAg has been bodybagged. He was very wrong and struggling to come to terms with it.

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While we are at it.

I hate to point out obvious but if that truck was recorded pulling up to the valet.....unless the driver blew himself up in the truck. He's on camera (multiple cameras) fleeing the hotel.


Anyone want to calculate the odds of a cyber truck blowing up right at the front door of a Trump Hotel.

If these things were blowing up like this on a regular basis, we would have a couple of *****Official EV Fire Threads***** almost as often as we have a civil war threads on F16.

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We did. But staff locked it.

Krombopulos Michael said:

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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

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CanyonAg has been bodybagged. He was very wrong and struggling to come to terms with it.

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While we are at it.

I hate to point out obvious but if that truck was recorded pulling up to the valet.....unless the driver blew himself up in the truck. He's on camera (multiple cameras) fleeing the hotel.


Anyone want to calculate the odds of a cyber truck blowing up right at the front door of a Trump Hotel.

If these things were blowing up like this on a regular basis, we would have a couple of *****Official EV Fire Threads***** almost as often as we have a civil war threads on F16.

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looks like every other ev fire