DonHenley said:

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This was really stupid. If this Kamala and the last admin, people would be going nuts on this forum over this

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army01 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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army01 said:

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It is nowhere near secure. Information like this should've only been transmitted through appropriate channels. No sort of impending attacks/battle plans should ever be transmitted over any open source applications. It should 100% be sent high side only.

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The software is absolutely secure. The reason it's open source is to allow any and all security experts on the planet to audit it for vulnerabilities and backdoors.

The issue here was the human error, adding a person to the group that should not have been added.

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Nothing on an open network (which a cell phone would be considered) is secure.

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JDUB08AG said:

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Grandstanding politicians are the absolute scum of the earth. Every single one of them. Irrespective of party.

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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ATM9000 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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rgvag11 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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TriAg2010 said:

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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Still can't believe that top government officials use Signal for these conversations.

In a lot of industries (not nearly as important as DOD), this is grounds for dismissal.

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SEC fines a bank practically weekly for this kind of thing.

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Yep. Banks got fined $500M a year ago for using Signal.

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That has nothing to do with Signal per se and everything to do with not preserving records - important if and when SEC investigations occur at that bank - which actually makes Signal even more secure.

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The people we are talking about have to preserve records too.

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The implication is that Signal is inherently bad and not secure which is complete bull**** and being spouted by libs who don't know what the hell they are talking about. I was adding some much needed context. If Banks used Teams instead and deleted the chats with no recoverable backup, they would also be fined in the same manner.

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Are you nuts?

A journalist was able to share points of contracts for each office for this strike as well as other messages direct from Signal… defend how you will but this fact alone sort of makes the point being spouted by the libs.

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Couple of points. That is a human issue, not a Signal issue. As pointed out above, Signal is loaded on the computers of members of the admin - including the CIA director - by government IT.

Second, as far as the particular info, we don't know what was shared. We have Goldberg claiming what was shared, that's all. Goldberg has major cred issues.

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Now let's do this same scenario where Signal was being used on personal devices, which is what seems to be happening here.

Personally, I have no issue with Goldberg publishing the classified information. If the government is trying to discredit him, I don't have a problem with him giving a big "F U" to the administration and publishing it.

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Loading on a personal device doesn't change anything about Signal's inherent security and trustworthiness. That would be device security, aka a strong pin.

He's not going to share screenshots with all the gory details because I highly doubt he has any to share.

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The app isn't the problem. The unsecured device is the problem.

What's he supposed to do? I guess he could redact enough of the sensitive information to let everyone know he has the goods.

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Perhaps you should tell your fellow libs that.


As far as Goldberg, yes. do that.

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Understood that the app itself isn't bad. Especially if it is integrated with a secure device. If it was on an unsecured device though, that is an issue.

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HTownAg98 said:

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I voted for Trump, genius.

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rgvag11 said:

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The anonymous source was Trump's longest serving Chief of Staff, General John Kelly.

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Logos Stick said:

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rgvag11 said:

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The anonymous source was Trump's longest serving Chief of Staff, General John Kelly.

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Which has been debunked.

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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ATM9000 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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rgvag11 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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TriAg2010 said:

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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Still can't believe that top government officials use Signal for these conversations.

In a lot of industries (not nearly as important as DOD), this is grounds for dismissal.

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SEC fines a bank practically weekly for this kind of thing.

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Yep. Banks got fined $500M a year ago for using Signal.

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That has nothing to do with Signal per se and everything to do with not preserving records - important if and when SEC investigations occur at that bank - which actually makes Signal even more secure.

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The people we are talking about have to preserve records too.

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The implication is that Signal is inherently bad and not secure which is complete bull**** and being spouted by libs who don't know what the hell they are talking about. I was adding some much needed context. If Banks used Teams instead and deleted the chats with no recoverable backup, they would also be fined in the same manner.

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Are you nuts?

A journalist was able to share points of contracts for each office for this strike as well as other messages direct from Signal… defend how you will but this fact alone sort of makes the point being spouted by the libs.

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Couple of points. That is a human issue, not a Signal issue. As pointed out above, Signal is loaded on the computers of members of the admin - including the CIA director - by government IT.

Second, as far as the particular info, we don't know what was shared. We have Goldberg claiming what was shared, that's all. Goldberg has major cred issues.

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Now let's do this same scenario where Signal was being used on personal devices, which is what seems to be happening here.

Personally, I have no issue with Goldberg publishing the classified information. If the government is trying to discredit him, I don't have a problem with him giving a big "F U" to the administration and publishing it.

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Loading on a personal device doesn't change anything about Signal's inherent security and trustworthiness. That would be device security, aka a strong pin.

He's not going to share screenshots with all the gory details because I highly doubt he has any to share.

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The app isn't the problem. The unsecured device is the problem.

What's he supposed to do? I guess he could redact enough of the sensitive information to let everyone know he has the goods.

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Perhaps you should tell your fellow libs that.


As far as Goldberg, yes. do that.

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Understood that the app itself isn't bad. Especially if it is integrated with a secure device. If it was on an unsecured device though, that is an issue.

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The banks were fined by the SEC because employees used Signal on an unsecured device?

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Yes

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HTownAg98 said:

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I voted for Trump, genius.

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Jeeper79 said:

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Houston Lee said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Tulsi Gabbard: “There was no classified material that was shared in that Signal chat.”

Sen. Mark Warner: “So then if there was no classified material, share it with the committee.”

pic.twitter.com/LHybOpWH6S

— The Post Millennial (@TPostMillennial) March 25, 2025

Again, all congress is good for is naming post offices, going on junkets, and calling hearings in hopes of a 'gram worthy soundbite.

They've ceded all of their power to the executive and judicial branches. All they good for is feeding tax dollars into the machine and grandstanding.

Stands to reason that 70% are compromised by the executive branch in one way or another.

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OMG! No classified info was in that group chat.

END OF STORY.

Sorry Libs.

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Based on what evidence?

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Charpie said:

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He said he did.

Seriously, if nothing was classified, he should be cleared to release everything.

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rgvag11 said:

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Eso si, Que es said:

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rgvag11 said:

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Houston Lee said:

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The Dems in this hearing are desperate to find some "Gotcha" and there isn't any there. The text chain on that signal app did not have any classified info and as far as these officials have testified, that they have never participated in a signal chat that ever had any classified info. "Signal" isnt used when classified info is involved.

Such a waste of time.

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if there is some evidence of classified info in the signal text chain, please feel free to share it. I will stand with you in your fight to safeguard our national secrets.

I am against any mishandling of classified information.

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Jeffery Goldberg has the evidence and said there was information that he would not publish because it was is classified.

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Jeeper79 said:

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Houston Lee said:

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Tulsi Gabbard: “There was no classified material that was shared in that Signal chat.”

Sen. Mark Warner: “So then if there was no classified material, share it with the committee.”

pic.twitter.com/LHybOpWH6S

— The Post Millennial (@TPostMillennial) March 25, 2025

Again, all congress is good for is naming post offices, going on junkets, and calling hearings in hopes of a 'gram worthy soundbite.

They've ceded all of their power to the executive and judicial branches. All they good for is feeding tax dollars into the machine and grandstanding.

Stands to reason that 70% are compromised by the executive branch in one way or another.

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OMG! No classified info was in that group chat.

END OF STORY.

Sorry Libs.

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Based on what evidence?

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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JDUB08AG said:

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Just because it isn't classified doesn't mean its ethically appropriate to publish what he has. There is something called journalistic integrity that is basically non existent these days, but still a concept.

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I don't know that he should have released it. But he definitely should not have just kept it to himself. Otherwise, what guarantee does he have that the practice that caused the error is fixed?

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Logos Stick said:

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army01 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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army01 said:

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It is nowhere near secure. Information like this should've only been transmitted through appropriate channels. No sort of impending attacks/battle plans should ever be transmitted over any open source applications. It should 100% be sent high side only.

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The software is absolutely secure. The reason it's open source is to allow any and all security experts on the planet to audit it for vulnerabilities and backdoors.

The issue here was the human error, adding a person to the group that should not have been added.

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Nothing on an open network (which a cell phone would be considered) is secure.

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Oh really? Please tell us how AES-256 encryption has been compromised and by whom. Unless the phone is stolen and the pin guessed, it's completely secure over the air!

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Squadron7 said:

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I like Trump as much as anyone....but someone needs to get "sent home" for this.

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torrid said:

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Logos Stick said:

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army01 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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army01 said:

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It is nowhere near secure. Information like this should've only been transmitted through appropriate channels. No sort of impending attacks/battle plans should ever be transmitted over any open source applications. It should 100% be sent high side only.

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The software is absolutely secure. The reason it's open source is to allow any and all security experts on the planet to audit it for vulnerabilities and backdoors.

The issue here was the human error, adding a person to the group that should not have been added.

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Nothing on an open network (which a cell phone would be considered) is secure.

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Oh really? Please tell us how AES-256 encryption has been compromised and by whom. Unless the phone is stolen and the pin guessed, it's completely secure over the air!

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You could have 4096-bit encryption, doesn't matter if you can easily add someone from your contact list with a simple swipe. The problem is the platform.

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