High level officials accidentally include Atlantic editor in group chat

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northeastag said:

So let's say that a staffer to Waltz inadvertently included Goldberg in the group chat. I don't really know how Signal works, but wouldn't that mean that the staffer had previously had Signal chats with the reporter? If so, then what the hell for?
It is my understanding, recently acquired, that many reporters use it to protect there sources.

So that becomes a good question.
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IndividualFreedom said:

How does Signal work?

I am envisioning a group text from the iphone on an encrypted app. that connects to your contacts. A group leader picks who they want in the group. You can name the group. Away you go. Perhaps a password to login.

Someone who has used Signal before should explain this.

If what I wrote above is correct:

1. Who started the message, because that person had Goldberg's contact in their phone.

1A. Why is Goldberg a contact?

2. If a mistake, who did you mean to add over Goldberg?

3. Like any other group message, if the other members did not have Goldberg as a contact, only a phone number would appear.

3A. Why did nobody question who that number belonged to?
Signal can handle both encrypted calls and chats. You can use it on a computer as well as your cell phone, but you have to originally set it up with your cell phone.

I'm in a group chat on Signal. If I remember correctly, when I received the invitation, I just had to confirm the invitation. I then received a notice that I had been added to the group. I don't know if others on the group could see it.

By the way, with Signal, you don't have to know someone's cell phone number. If you want to give out contact details without giving out your cell phone number, there is a username made up of a text string, a dot, and a number. Someone can use that to contact me on Signal, either by chat or by encrypted call, without having my cell phone number.

Or you can use the QR code.
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I don't know how it will play out, but Biden approved the app for government communications.

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Great distraction for Dems while Trump deports more illegals and tightens up voting guidelines.

Winning!
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This is disappointing. The goaltenders are working overtime in this thread.

Before I'm called a cm. Check my posts. I voted Trump 3 times.
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General Jack D. Ripper said:

This is disappointing. The goaltenders are working overtime in this thread.

Before I'm called a cm. Check my posts. I voted Trump 3 times.

Then let's see it. Show us the "classified" information. We're big boys. If it happened we can take it.
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KThis is what happens when a damage control team thinks it's better to admit your national security adviser is easily deceived by a reporter than to just say we made an honest mistake and it will NEVER happen again.

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They taking full responsibility for it, apologized for it. Them are going to get to the bottom of it and I'm sure it will never happen again. What else do you want them to do? Of course it was a colossal error and embarrassing and thankfully no classified information was put out there.

But honestly, the reporter should've had the integrity to not say anything about it. Get in touch with them and tell them hey you got me on here this is a mistake. But no, he had to publish it because he wants to be a dick and is probably a Democrat. He put clicks and putting down the administration over being a good citizen.

National Security Advisor Mike Waltz takes responsibility for 'embarrassing' Signal chat leak
Waltz confirmed 'no classified information' was disclosed in the text exchange which included the Atlantic's editor-in-chief.

"I take full responsibility. I built the group," Waltz said on "The Ingraham Angle" Tuesday. "It's embarrassing. We're going to get to the bottom of it."


I completely understand them being chastise for it, all the political cartoons and memes are completely warranted and of course, the Democrats are going off the deep end about it completely ignoring all the blenders we saw under the administration. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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I don't think anyone was easily deceived.

It was a massive **** up snd shouldn't have happened. I don't think anyone was deceived.
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They have to say "no classified information was in there"…it was. This is the first thing someone does when they create a spillage - figure out a way to say it's unclassified. Just saying that the President has given us the green light to conduct strikes in the next few days (which is in the already released screenshots) is likely SECRET….we will find out more in the coming days, but I wouldn't hold out hope it was all unclassified.
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annie88 said:

I don't think anyone was easily deceived.

It was a massive **** up snd shouldn't have happened. I don't think anyone was deceived.
In that clip someone is saying he was tricked by a crafty reporter.
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Fdsa said:

They have to say "no classified information was in there"…it was. This is the first thing someone does when they create a spillage - figure out a way to say it's unclassified. Just saying that the President has given us the green light to conduct strikes in the next few days (which is in the already released screenshots) is likely SECRET….we will find out more in the coming days, but I wouldn't hold out hope it was all unclassified.

So you've seen it? Tell us about it.
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General Jack D. Ripper said:

This is disappointing. The goaltenders are working overtime in this thread.

Before I'm called a cm. Check my posts. I voted Trump 3 times.
This is the worst F16 goaltending I've ever seen. And yes I'm a CM.
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Rockdoc said:

Fdsa said:

They have to say "no classified information was in there"…it was. This is the first thing someone does when they create a spillage - figure out a way to say it's unclassified. Just saying that the President has given us the green light to conduct strikes in the next few days (which is in the already released screenshots) is likely SECRET….we will find out more in the coming days, but I wouldn't hold out hope it was all unclassified.

So you've seen it? Tell us about it.


https://images.app.goo.gl/dhnJzDA7Mabx8w167
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Fdsa said:

Rockdoc said:

Fdsa said:

They have to say "no classified information was in there"…it was. This is the first thing someone does when they create a spillage - figure out a way to say it's unclassified. Just saying that the President has given us the green light to conduct strikes in the next few days (which is in the already released screenshots) is likely SECRET….we will find out more in the coming days, but I wouldn't hold out hope it was all unclassified.

So you've seen it? Tell us about it.


https://images.app.goo.gl/dhnJzDA7Mabx8w167

But where's the classified part?
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Equinox said:

Fdsa said:

Rockdoc said:

Fdsa said:

They have to say "no classified information was in there"…it was. This is the first thing someone does when they create a spillage - figure out a way to say it's unclassified. Just saying that the President has given us the green light to conduct strikes in the next few days (which is in the already released screenshots) is likely SECRET….we will find out more in the coming days, but I wouldn't hold out hope it was all unclassified.

So you've seen it? Tell us about it.


https://images.app.goo.gl/dhnJzDA7Mabx8w167

But where's the classified part?
just talking about the President giving a green light to strike is at least CUI, likely SECRET.
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Oh brother, the dems trying their best to turn this into something. Next!
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Goldberg is a liar. Give the goods to the Senate and House, Jeffrey. Listen to this moron. Lololol

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he tries so hard

geo profs really are as dumb as rocks
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Fdsa said:

Equinox said:

Fdsa said:

Rockdoc said:

Fdsa said:

They have to say "no classified information was in there"…it was. This is the first thing someone does when they create a spillage - figure out a way to say it's unclassified. Just saying that the President has given us the green light to conduct strikes in the next few days (which is in the already released screenshots) is likely SECRET….we will find out more in the coming days, but I wouldn't hold out hope it was all unclassified.

So you've seen it? Tell us about it.


https://images.app.goo.gl/dhnJzDA7Mabx8w167

But where's the classified part?
just talking about the President giving a green light to strike is at least CUI, likely SECRET.
If so, it seems Goldberg is in big trouble for having and publishing classified material.
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Equinox said:

Fdsa said:

Equinox said:

Fdsa said:

Rockdoc said:

Fdsa said:

They have to say "no classified information was in there"…it was. This is the first thing someone does when they create a spillage - figure out a way to say it's unclassified. Just saying that the President has given us the green light to conduct strikes in the next few days (which is in the already released screenshots) is likely SECRET….we will find out more in the coming days, but I wouldn't hold out hope it was all unclassified.

So you've seen it? Tell us about it.


https://images.app.goo.gl/dhnJzDA7Mabx8w167

But where's the classified part?
just talking about the President giving a green light to strike is at least CUI, likely SECRET.
If so, it seems Goldberg is in big trouble for having and publishing classified material.
considering he is likely the only person on that chat that has NOT signed a Classified Information Non-Disclosure agreement, and considering he got the information from an unclassified app…he's probably just fine.
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You missed again manny.
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ore rolling
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damiond said:

ore rolling

Guess again manny.
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Sorry
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Are we just gonna gloss over that Goldberg remained on this chat for several days hiding in the bushes? The trump team ****ed up big time, but any ethical journalist would have flagged this concern immediately. You can get your screen shots and evidence on day one.
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ur fam is 4 sure
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JDUB08AG said:

Are we just gonna gloss over that Goldberg remained on this chat for several days hiding in the bushes? The trump team ****ed up big time, but any ethical journalist would have flagged this concern immediately. You can get your screen shots and evidence on day one.

"Ethical" and "journalist" don't exactly go together.
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JDUB08AG said:

Are we just gonna gloss over that Goldberg remained on this chat for several days hiding in the bushes? The trump team ****ed up big time, but any ethical journalist would have flagged this concern immediately. You can get your screen shots and evidence on day one.
I agree, but I saw in one interview that he didn't believe it was real until the bombs started dropping. He thought it was some weird hoax. Who knows.
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Equinox said:



Well now it's going to get interesting (if he's telling the truth)
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At this point, who's dumb enough to think they are telling the truuu…. oh, nm.
 
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