High level officials accidentally include Atlantic editor in group chat

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They had no problem with that fat loser Vindman leaking the Uke phone call with Mr Bean to the press.

Then, Trump released the transcript immediately so people could read it themselves.

Really dumb of Trumps team, though. Whoever added the reporter should be fired.

Luckily no servicemen were put in danger.
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BadMoonRisin said:

They had no problem with that fat loser Vindman leaking the Uke phone call with Mr Bean to the press.

Then, Trump released the transcript immediately so people could read it themselves.

Really dumb of Trumps team, though. Whoever added the reporter should be fired.

Luckily no servicemen were put in danger.


The entire gtiup communicating on signal, likely on their personal phones need to be fired
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Adding the reporter is not the offense…starting and participating in the chat is.
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rgag12 said:

Have yall seen the leaked chat? To me it reads like the Atlantic guy was let in on purpose so he'd share this and have Europe be put on blast again


So your 128D chess assumption is the Trump admin of the highest level intentionally invited a random editor of the Atlantic to read these officials using an unapproved encrypted 3rd party app chat to discuss extremely sensitive and classified foreign policy discussion that might have violated multiple laws all so he could get the info to put Europe on blast?

When the normal scenario is for the administration to just feed information legally to reporters to do their bidding?

Seriously?
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rgag12 said:

Have yall seen the leaked chat? To me it reads like the Atlantic guy was let in on purpose so he'd share this and have Europe be put on blast again
I've thought this myself. Why would a reporter even be available as a chat option for any conversation?
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Equinox said:

rgag12 said:

Have yall seen the leaked chat? To me it reads like the Atlantic guy was let in on purpose so he'd share this and have Europe be put on blast again
I've thought this myself. Why would a reporter even be available as a chat option for any conversation?


So you haven't read the article. Thanks for confirming
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TOUCHDOWN! said:

"I don't take responsibility at all." - Donald J. Trump

The lying, propaganda, and fabrications come so easily to this entire administration. And the sad thing is that by tomorrow morning, 40% of this country will believe wholeheartedly that Bedford orchestrated this entire thing because he hates America.


Tell us what lies, propaganda, and fabrications you're referring to, genius.

It's amazing how dense leftists are. Complete and total useful idiots that don't realize they're useful idiots.
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Someone asked if this was all The Atlantic's fault and you said yes absolutely. Not one of your comments in this thread lays any blame on the moron who added the journalist.

But you're right, I guess there is no point in arguing when you won't acknowledge your own words.
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Equinox said:

rgag12 said:

Have yall seen the leaked chat? To me it reads like the Atlantic guy was let in on purpose so he'd share this and have Europe be put on blast again
I've thought this myself. Why would a reporter even be available as a chat option for any conversation?


Because he was a contact of whoever started the chat
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Horrible look. Firings need to happen.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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What I can't get over is none of the 18 participants in the chat, when Hegseth started posting classified information, had the common sense to say "Hey, maybe we shouldn't be posting classified information on an unsecured app?"

It's just weapons-grade stupid across the board.
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Fdsa said:

Adding the reporter is not the offense…starting and participating in the chat is.


Needs to be repeated. The chat existing is the offense. Adding a media contact is just the clown show cherry on top.
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Captain Winky said:

Someone asked if this was all The Atlantic's fault and you said yes absolutely. Not one of your comments in this thread lays any blame on the moron who added the journalist.

But you're right, I guess there is no point in arguing when you won't acknowledge your own words.


"To a degree, yes it absolutely is. If the journalist has had DOD mandated or any type of Cyber Awareness training on incidents like this and still chose to leak the spillage, he is absolutely to blame for posting screenshots of CUI/SECRET NOFOR or any other caveated message. He should have gone to a security manager and informed them of the spillage."


To a degree, key phrase. If you read all my responses, I clearly said Waltz is to blame and should be punished. If the journalist had any integrity at all, he would have let them know, guys I don't think i should be seeing this. He didn't, he kept a saved round for a gotcha moment. Journalists at this level are read in for instances just like this. General Franks had Geraldo kicked out of Iraq when the idiot drew out our op plan for invading Iraq from the North after we started the initial invasion from the South.

I don't know your background but would wager you've never been in a situation or experienced anything of this nature. Mistakes happen, that journalist had an obligation to inform them of a spillage and he didn't.
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usmcbrooks said:

Captain Winky said:

Someone asked if this was all The Atlantic's fault and you said yes absolutely. Not one of your comments in this thread lays any blame on the moron who added the journalist.

But you're right, I guess there is no point in arguing when you won't acknowledge your own words.


"To a degree, yes it absolutely is. If the journalist has had DOD mandated or any type of Cyber Awareness training on incidents like this and still chose to leak the spillage, he is absolutely to blame for posting screenshots of CUI/SECRET NOFOR or any other caveated message. He should have gone to a security manager and informed them of the spillage."


To a degree, key phrase. If you read all my responses, I clearly said Waltz is to blame and should be punished. If the journalist had any integrity at all, he would have let them know, guys I don't think i should be seeing this. He didn't, he kept a saved round for a gotcha moment. Journalists at this level are read in for instances just like this. General Franks had Geraldo kicked out of Iraq when the idiot drew out our op plan for invading Iraq from the North after we started the initial invasion from the South.

I don't know your background but would wager you've never been in a situation or experienced anything of this nature. Mistakes happen, that journalist had an obligation to inform them of a spillage and he didn't.



Brooks ….i doubt the journalist has a clearance. He doesn't have an obligation to report a spillage. The rest of the group all have clearances. They do have an obligation….and there was no mistake. They created a chatroom on an unclassified app to discuss classified material.
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If there is one thing i hate in this world and that is an unsecure footlocker, lets see if anything is missing!!!!! Holy JEEZUS!!!
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What are the chances that a rat "accidentally" left that person on the chat? We've got a ton of traitors working in our government.
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Fdsa said:

usmcbrooks said:

Captain Winky said:

Someone asked if this was all The Atlantic's fault and you said yes absolutely. Not one of your comments in this thread lays any blame on the moron who added the journalist.

But you're right, I guess there is no point in arguing when you won't acknowledge your own words.


"To a degree, yes it absolutely is. If the journalist has had DOD mandated or any type of Cyber Awareness training on incidents like this and still chose to leak the spillage, he is absolutely to blame for posting screenshots of CUI/SECRET NOFOR or any other caveated message. He should have gone to a security manager and informed them of the spillage."


To a degree, key phrase. If you read all my responses, I clearly said Waltz is to blame and should be punished. If the journalist had any integrity at all, he would have let them know, guys I don't think i should be seeing this. He didn't, he kept a saved round for a gotcha moment. Journalists at this level are read in for instances just like this. General Franks had Geraldo kicked out of Iraq when the idiot drew out our op plan for invading Iraq from the North after we started the initial invasion from the South.

I don't know your background but would wager you've never been in a situation or experienced anything of this nature. Mistakes happen, that journalist had an obligation to inform them of a spillage and he didn't.



Brooks ….i doubt the journalist has a clearance. He doesn't have an obligation to report a spillage. The rest of the group all have clearances. They do have an obligation….and there was no mistake. They created a chatroom on an unclassified app to discuss classified material.


They have a "need to know basis" for reporting certain stories, ie read in. I'm not placing all the blame on the journalist. But instead of keeping the saved round and then posting screenshots later, he should have used his journalistic integrity to alert them. I know integrity is a foreign word for some.
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Jack Boyette said:

TOUCHDOWN! said:

"I don't take responsibility at all." - Donald J. Trump

The lying, propaganda, and fabrications come so easily to this entire administration. And the sad thing is that by tomorrow morning, 40% of this country will believe wholeheartedly that Bedford orchestrated this entire thing because he hates America.


Tell us what lies, propaganda, and fabrications you're referring to, genius.

It's amazing how dense leftists are. Complete and total useful idiots that don't realize they're useful idiots.


I, uh, have some news on this quote that your not going to like to hear.
HTownAg98
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There's no secret here. Waltz mistakenly invited the reporter into the chat.

Never attribute something to 38d chess when government incompetence is a perfectly reasonable answer.
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GAC06 said:

Bunk Moreland said:



Agree with Brit. Bad look.


Clown. Maybe a Fox News personality wasn't the right choice to lead the freaking Department of Defense after all.
all he was, was a fox news personality? But hey you got stars for that post.
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Sid Farkas said:

On a scale from one to ten, this is a minus four.

Dems desperate to find anything to push back on get to laugh about this for about 24 more hours before it fades away. After that, the the next poll numbers will continue to indicate Americans dislike for everything they stand for.

Someone please DM me when something important happens. Zzzzzzzz
yep all the cms and trump haters are out, tells me it's a nothing burger.
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Anonymous Source said:

2023NCAggies said:

Hegeseth you moron.

Well put communication between teams in the category of "needed improvement" for Trump.

No one told him the administration admitted to the mistake yet? Making the administration look dumb on the original topic, now Hegeseth looks even more stupid on top of that.

Do better. Communication is lacking


He's probably loaded


I would say he's just a meathead moron that deflected responsibility and just bad mouthed the journalist they accidentally included.

Hegeseth should admit fault and say the situation has been handled and future discussions will be more controlled

Or the dumbass that started the chat should come out and make a statement that he Fed up

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HTownAg98 said:

There's no secret here. Waltz mistakenly invited the reporter into the chat.

Never attribute something to 38d chess when government incompetence is a perfectly reasonable answer.


Waltz needs to make a statement and apologize for his dumbass mistake
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usmcbrooks said:

Fdsa said:

usmcbrooks said:

Captain Winky said:

Someone asked if this was all The Atlantic's fault and you said yes absolutely. Not one of your comments in this thread lays any blame on the moron who added the journalist.

But you're right, I guess there is no point in arguing when you won't acknowledge your own words.


"To a degree, yes it absolutely is. If the journalist has had DOD mandated or any type of Cyber Awareness training on incidents like this and still chose to leak the spillage, he is absolutely to blame for posting screenshots of CUI/SECRET NOFOR or any other caveated message. He should have gone to a security manager and informed them of the spillage."


To a degree, key phrase. If you read all my responses, I clearly said Waltz is to blame and should be punished. If the journalist had any integrity at all, he would have let them know, guys I don't think i should be seeing this. He didn't, he kept a saved round for a gotcha moment. Journalists at this level are read in for instances just like this. General Franks had Geraldo kicked out of Iraq when the idiot drew out our op plan for invading Iraq from the North after we started the initial invasion from the South.

I don't know your background but would wager you've never been in a situation or experienced anything of this nature. Mistakes happen, that journalist had an obligation to inform them of a spillage and he didn't.



Brooks ….i doubt the journalist has a clearance. He doesn't have an obligation to report a spillage. The rest of the group all have clearances. They do have an obligation….and there was no mistake. They created a chatroom on an unclassified app to discuss classified material.


They have a "need to know basis" for reporting certain stories, ie read in. I'm not placing all the blame on the journalist. But instead of keeping the saved round and then posting screenshots later, he should have used his journalistic integrity to alert them. I know integrity is a foreign word for some.
journalistic integrity….gotcha. What is the term for the integrity or lack thereof for the group on the chat? There is no way at least half of them did not know this was wrong. At least the half that were up to date on their cyber security awareness. I know Hegseth was - he probably got two drill day credits out of completing that training over four hours on a Saturday!
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HollywoodBQ said:

The biggest benefit from this incident so far is that all of the resident TexAgs lefties have shown up to celebrate.
your skulking about the imaginary points the libs got on your imaginary scoreboard is bizarre and adds nothing to the discussion
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But her emailzzszzz
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Exposing classified info to a reporter who is not cleared to see it is a big deal.. Trump and his administration have been clear on this for years. Don't be a hypocrite now
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HTownAg98 said:

There's no secret here. Waltz mistakenly invited the reporter into the chat.

Never attribute something to 38d chess when government incompetence is a perfectly reasonable answer.


Fair enough. I'm not saying that there is "38d chess" going on, but after Trumps first term and all of the rats and moles. It's not hard to think that there are still a few of them in there that would try to sabotage.
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HoustonAg9999 said:

Sid Farkas said:

On a scale from one to ten, this is a minus four.

Dems desperate to find anything to push back on get to laugh about this for about 24 more hours before it fades away. After that, the the next poll numbers will continue to indicate Americans dislike for everything they stand for.

Someone please DM me when something important happens. Zzzzzzzz
yep all the cms and trump haters are out, tells me it's a nothing burger.
It's not a nothing burger but it will be forgotten in a week's time.

From a Texags perspective it certainly is a honeypot for all the liberals who finally have something to spike the football about while their dear leaders approval ratings are in the toilet.

Also, don't forget their comrades torching Tesla's when just a few minutes ago they were trying to save the planet, all the while cheering on activist judges trying to prevent waste, fraud and abuse from being exposed in our bloated government while lamenting criminal gang bangers getting "unfairly" deported.

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Old McDonald said:

HollywoodBQ said:

The biggest benefit from this incident so far is that all of the resident TexAgs lefties have shown up to celebrate.
your skulking about the imaginary points the libs got on your imaginary scoreboard is bizarre and adds nothing to the discussion
Speak of the devil...
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nhamp07 said:

But her emailzzszzz


Buttery Males. Her incompetence excuses all incompetence by the admin.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

HTownAg98 said:

There's no secret here. Waltz mistakenly invited the reporter into the chat.

Never attribute something to 38d chess when government incompetence is a perfectly reasonable answer.


Fair enough. I'm not saying that there is "38d chess" going on, but after Trumps first term and all of the rats and moles. It's not hard to think that there are still a few of them in there that would try to sabotage.

There's no rat or mole here. Plus, it would make zero sense to use this situation to rat someone out. You don't put the exposure of classified information at risk to smoke out a rat. But if that was their goal, everyone should be fired for being ****ing morons.
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Fdsa said:

usmcbrooks said:

Fdsa said:

usmcbrooks said:

Captain Winky said:

Someone asked if this was all The Atlantic's fault and you said yes absolutely. Not one of your comments in this thread lays any blame on the moron who added the journalist.

But you're right, I guess there is no point in arguing when you won't acknowledge your own words.


"To a degree, yes it absolutely is. If the journalist has had DOD mandated or any type of Cyber Awareness training on incidents like this and still chose to leak the spillage, he is absolutely to blame for posting screenshots of CUI/SECRET NOFOR or any other caveated message. He should have gone to a security manager and informed them of the spillage."


To a degree, key phrase. If you read all my responses, I clearly said Waltz is to blame and should be punished. If the journalist had any integrity at all, he would have let them know, guys I don't think i should be seeing this. He didn't, he kept a saved round for a gotcha moment. Journalists at this level are read in for instances just like this. General Franks had Geraldo kicked out of Iraq when the idiot drew out our op plan for invading Iraq from the North after we started the initial invasion from the South.

I don't know your background but would wager you've never been in a situation or experienced anything of this nature. Mistakes happen, that journalist had an obligation to inform them of a spillage and he didn't.



Brooks ….i doubt the journalist has a clearance. He doesn't have an obligation to report a spillage. The rest of the group all have clearances. They do have an obligation….and there was no mistake. They created a chatroom on an unclassified app to discuss classified material.


They have a "need to know basis" for reporting certain stories, ie read in. I'm not placing all the blame on the journalist. But instead of keeping the saved round and then posting screenshots later, he should have used his journalistic integrity to alert them. I know integrity is a foreign word for some.
journalistic integrity….gotcha. What is the term for the integrity or lack thereof for the group on the chat? There is no way at least half of them did not know this was wrong. At least the half that were up to date on their cyber security awareness. I know Hegseth was - he probably got two drill day credits out of completing that training over four hours on a Saturday!


Have you ever been attached on a email or other correspondence that you shouldn't have been? If so what did you do? Even when I held a TSSCI and was mistakenly included and had no need to know, it was reported. I fired a guy last year over a CUI hard drive he removed from computer. I didn't save that round, he was brought up on charges, perp walked and fired. I have an investigation going on right now because 3 SIPR computers were found in an unsecured area. I didn't save that round either, it was reported. If you can't do what's right when nobody is watching you, you have no integrity. I will fall on this sword and die on this hill.
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usmcbrooks said:

Fdsa said:

usmcbrooks said:

Fdsa said:

usmcbrooks said:

Captain Winky said:

Someone asked if this was all The Atlantic's fault and you said yes absolutely. Not one of your comments in this thread lays any blame on the moron who added the journalist.

But you're right, I guess there is no point in arguing when you won't acknowledge your own words.


"To a degree, yes it absolutely is. If the journalist has had DOD mandated or any type of Cyber Awareness training on incidents like this and still chose to leak the spillage, he is absolutely to blame for posting screenshots of CUI/SECRET NOFOR or any other caveated message. He should have gone to a security manager and informed them of the spillage."


To a degree, key phrase. If you read all my responses, I clearly said Waltz is to blame and should be punished. If the journalist had any integrity at all, he would have let them know, guys I don't think i should be seeing this. He didn't, he kept a saved round for a gotcha moment. Journalists at this level are read in for instances just like this. General Franks had Geraldo kicked out of Iraq when the idiot drew out our op plan for invading Iraq from the North after we started the initial invasion from the South.

I don't know your background but would wager you've never been in a situation or experienced anything of this nature. Mistakes happen, that journalist had an obligation to inform them of a spillage and he didn't.



Brooks ….i doubt the journalist has a clearance. He doesn't have an obligation to report a spillage. The rest of the group all have clearances. They do have an obligation….and there was no mistake. They created a chatroom on an unclassified app to discuss classified material.


They have a "need to know basis" for reporting certain stories, ie read in. I'm not placing all the blame on the journalist. But instead of keeping the saved round and then posting screenshots later, he should have used his journalistic integrity to alert them. I know integrity is a foreign word for some.
journalistic integrity….gotcha. What is the term for the integrity or lack thereof for the group on the chat? There is no way at least half of them did not know this was wrong. At least the half that were up to date on their cyber security awareness. I know Hegseth was - he probably got two drill day credits out of completing that training over four hours on a Saturday!


Have you ever been attached on a email or other correspondence that you shouldn't have been? If so what did you do? Even when I held a TSSCI and was mistakenly included and had no need to know, it was reported. I fired a guy last year over a CUI hard drive he removed from computer. I didn't save that round, he was brought up on charges, perp walked and fired. I have an investigation going on right now because 3 SIPR computers were found in an unsecured area. I didn't save that round either, it was reported. If you can't do what's right when nobody is watching you, you have no integrity. I will fall on this sword and die on this hill.
. Marine, you are doing the right thing. BZ! Go educate your SECDEF on how to do the right thing when no one is looking. And all the other cabinet members on the chat. Would all have been good if the journalist had said "hey, I'm not supposed to be here, I'm out." No….and yes, I have had to do a hard thing when it comes to classified material outside a SCIF…happened to be a higher ranking member within DoD and it did not end well for him.
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Fdsa said:

usmcbrooks said:

Fdsa said:

usmcbrooks said:

Fdsa said:

usmcbrooks said:

Captain Winky said:

Someone asked if this was all The Atlantic's fault and you said yes absolutely. Not one of your comments in this thread lays any blame on the moron who added the journalist.

But you're right, I guess there is no point in arguing when you won't acknowledge your own words.


"To a degree, yes it absolutely is. If the journalist has had DOD mandated or any type of Cyber Awareness training on incidents like this and still chose to leak the spillage, he is absolutely to blame for posting screenshots of CUI/SECRET NOFOR or any other caveated message. He should have gone to a security manager and informed them of the spillage."


To a degree, key phrase. If you read all my responses, I clearly said Waltz is to blame and should be punished. If the journalist had any integrity at all, he would have let them know, guys I don't think i should be seeing this. He didn't, he kept a saved round for a gotcha moment. Journalists at this level are read in for instances just like this. General Franks had Geraldo kicked out of Iraq when the idiot drew out our op plan for invading Iraq from the North after we started the initial invasion from the South.

I don't know your background but would wager you've never been in a situation or experienced anything of this nature. Mistakes happen, that journalist had an obligation to inform them of a spillage and he didn't.



Brooks ….i doubt the journalist has a clearance. He doesn't have an obligation to report a spillage. The rest of the group all have clearances. They do have an obligation….and there was no mistake. They created a chatroom on an unclassified app to discuss classified material.


They have a "need to know basis" for reporting certain stories, ie read in. I'm not placing all the blame on the journalist. But instead of keeping the saved round and then posting screenshots later, he should have used his journalistic integrity to alert them. I know integrity is a foreign word for some.
journalistic integrity….gotcha. What is the term for the integrity or lack thereof for the group on the chat? There is no way at least half of them did not know this was wrong. At least the half that were up to date on their cyber security awareness. I know Hegseth was - he probably got two drill day credits out of completing that training over four hours on a Saturday!


Have you ever been attached on a email or other correspondence that you shouldn't have been? If so what did you do? Even when I held a TSSCI and was mistakenly included and had no need to know, it was reported. I fired a guy last year over a CUI hard drive he removed from computer. I didn't save that round, he was brought up on charges, perp walked and fired. I have an investigation going on right now because 3 SIPR computers were found in an unsecured area. I didn't save that round either, it was reported. If you can't do what's right when nobody is watching you, you have no integrity. I will fall on this sword and die on this hill.
. Marine, you are doing the right thing. BZ! Go educate your SECDEF on how to do the right thing when no one is looking. And all the other cabinet members on the chat. Would all have been good if the journalist had said "hey, I'm not supposed to be here, I'm out." No.


It would have been better if they had not started this on Signal. However, if all the Obama appointed judges that are issuing TRO's on the Trump deportations and other executive orders are doing so for checks and balances.....this journalist missed an opportunity to do the same thing.
 
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