High level officials accidentally include Atlantic editor in group chat

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Fdsa
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Bottom line for me…a mistake was made, own it and move on. Denying it looks silly. I think it would be epic if Trump put a statement out stating all 18 members of the chat have been required to complete their one hour cyber security awareness training again.

I think you get a lot of goodness with having unconventional cabinet picks, but mistakes are going to happen. Own it, unlike the dems, and move on.
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In the end this will lye at the feet of Hegs, the more the Senate Intel digs the worse this will get, Hegs will likely need to resign.
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Equinox
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The burning question for the Dems is, "how can we blame this on Elon"?

Actually, Trump could cause a riot by announcing a new program to have Elon create a new, better Signal app that would be 100% secure.
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Burpelson said:

In the end this will lye at the feet of Hegs, the more the Senate Intel digs the worse this will get, Hegs will likely need to resign.
You can only hope, huh?
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Burpelson said:

In the end this will lye at the feet of Hegs, the more the Senate Intel digs the worse this will get, Hegs will likely need to resign.


Quite the soap opera!

I'm Gipper
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Burpelson said:

In the end this will lye at the feet of Hegs, the more the Senate Intel digs the worse this will get, Hegs will likely need to resign.
You can wake up from that wet dream you are having.
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This. Trump could perform an abortion on live television and half this board would compliment how deftly he moved his hands during the procedure. Politics for some is nothing but sports, and this thread/board proves it (as does Reddit for the other "team.").

You might be right...

But man, neither side has any right to make these type of comments.

The amount of goaltending that had to occur for 'weekend at Bernies' to operate for 4 years is un-freaking-believable. By nearly every measure, the worst POTUS we've ever seen, and he still had people wanting him to run again.

The R/D divide, and the 'sticking with my team' mentality holds this country back.

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[/Gabbard quickly changing OPSEC to reflect battle plans as Unclassified]
74OA
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Since senior officials have just testified under oath to Congress that there was no classified in their unsecure discussion, journalist Goldberg is considering releasing the now "unclassified" transcript, after all.

TOO FUNNY

whytho987654
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This is what happens when you pick yes men instead of those who are qualified
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74OA said:

Since senior officials have just testified under oath to Congress that there was no classified in their unsecure discussion, journalist Goldberg is considering releasing the now "unclassified" transcript, after all.

TOO FUNNY



Like BMX said, he could give this to the intelligence committees - either the heads or full committee - right now. There is no reason not to.

I think there is much more to this story than a simple error in adding a journo from an extremely radical lefty magazine to the convo. Stay tuned!
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whytho987654
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Ervin Burrell said:

Eliminatus said:


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Pete Hegseth would send Pete Hegseth to jail for this.


Quote I stole from elsewhere but spot on. This board and it's ability to goalkeep for their favorite players and bend reality to make their worldviews continue to work is absolutely insane now. Now some are trying to say they planned this and wanted it to get leaked to spread a message?! Good Lord....



This is such gross incompetence and a slap to the face to anyone who has held a clearance or served and understand the importance of constant OPSEC. The whataboutisms here are peak cringe. Hegseth et al. ****ed up and they ****ed up REAL bad. Period. And they have now doubled down with what everyone calls the classic liberal tactic here. Deny, Lie, Attack the Messenger, Run Away, Hope everyone forgets.

Can't believe this thread is several hundred responses deep.
This. Trump could perform an abortion on live television and half this board would compliment how deftly he moved his hands during the procedure. Politics for some is nothing but sports, and this thread/board proves it (as does Reddit for the other "team.").
Yep, I voted for trump and have been called a lib because I don't agree with 100000% of the things he's does
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Wow. Witkoff was on the Signal chat while in Moscow.

This guy was in the Kremlin for a meeting with Putin while chatting on an unsecured app, on an unsecured phone in Russia.

RECKLESS
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BREAKING: As a result of the security lapse, 13 soldiers were killed and the US left behind $80bn worth of military equipment to the enemy.

Oh wait...that was Biden's Afghanistan...when precisely zero dem senators on the Intel committee demanded investigations,
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Hey, let him release it. Let's see if it's classified. If Hegs says it wasn't, no problem.
will25u
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Seeing a lot of smoke that it was Alex Wong. But that so far is just internet talk.


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Grok Question:

"When did the U.S. government begin using the Signal app for communications?"


Grok Answer:

"The U.S. government began using the Signal app for communications at least as early as 2017, when the U.S. Senate Sergeant at Arms approved its use for Senate staff. This marked an initial formal adoption of the app within a government body for secure messaging. Evidence from posts on X also suggests that Signal was authorized for use by federal agencies during the Biden administration, with some users indicating it was employed operationally for group chats before, during, and after operations. Additionally, there are claims that the app was approved for military communications, with deployed troops encouraged to use it around 2020, and that it has been in use within the Department of Defense since approximately 2019 for both deployed forces and alerts. While these specific dates and uses lack precise official documentation in the available data, the 2017 Senate approval provides a clear starting point, with broader adoption appearing to grow in subsequent years across various government entities."

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deep state gon deep state
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Squadron7 said:

I like Trump as much as anyone....but someone needs to get "sent home" for this.


Of course, (edit to add: if the staffer is a mole, yes he needs to go, but no else should be in trouble) the dimms circle the wagons with the help of the DNC media and the R's form the usual circular firing squad........it would be maddening if it wasn't so typical.

But that's how DC works.
Fdsa
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Squadron7 said:

Grok Question:

"When did the U.S. government begin using the Signal app for communications?"


Grok Answer:

"The U.S. government began using the Signal app for communications at least as early as 2017, when the U.S. Senate Sergeant at Arms approved its use for Senate staff. This marked an initial formal adoption of the app within a government body for secure messaging. Evidence from posts on X also suggests that Signal was authorized for use by federal agencies during the Biden administration, with some users indicating it was employed operationally for group chats before, during, and after operations. Additionally, there are claims that the app was approved for military communications, with deployed troops encouraged to use it around 2020, and that it has been in use within the Department of Defense since approximately 2019 for both deployed forces and alerts. While these specific dates and uses lack precise official documentation in the available data, the 2017 Senate approval provides a clear starting point, with broader adoption appearing to grow in subsequent years across various government entities."


one little important caveat…this is for use for unclassified discussions. Prior to this you had a bunch of VIP travel being coordinated over WhatsApp.
will25u
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Lets see what he has...

rootube
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will25u said:

Seeing a lot of smoke that it was Alex Wong. But that so far is just internet talk.






This is irrelevant. The issue is that there is no operational security measures in place to prevent this from ever happening. Nobody considered who was on the call before sharing extremely sensitive data. In that regard, EVERYONE on that call failed.
will25u
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Not a call. Group Text message. Also, the group text message through signal could have been going for a while before the reporter was added.
will25u
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Also, for everyone, here is what Signal puts out about group messages.


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Group chats
A Signal group is built on top of the private group system technology. The Signal service has no record of your group memberships, group titles, group avatars, or group attributes.
Group features include:



rootube
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will25u said:

Not a call. Group Text message. Also, the group text message through signal could have been going for a while before the reporter was added.


Also irrelevant. The fact is the operational security measures in place were broken. Everyone on that chat should understand how to secure the comms. If they aren't sure they have no business with the data.
will25u
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I agree with you that if there was classified information it shouldn't have been discussed on Signal. But I also don't trust the reporter who has a severe case of TDS and probably wants to impede the Trump administration in any way possible.

Also, it is purely coincidental that this comes out the night before this hearing in the House Intelligence Committee, right?

But this is all predicated on classified information being discussed. Lets see some more bread crumbs. I am sure there are more.
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Fire Waltz and underling responsible for gaffe, bring up on charges, then Trump pardons them and says get back to work. At least in this administration, you can get an actual pardon for offenses committed instead of blanket pardons for acts not yet to be named.

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Fdsa
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Equinox said:


yes, Signal is authorized….for unclassified communications as a means for good OPSEC. He knows this wasn't unclassified communications and everyone who has ever had a clearance is laughing at him for saying this.
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74OA said:

Wow. Witkoff was on the Signal chat while in Moscow.

This guy was in the Kremlin for a meeting with Putin while chatting on an unsecured app, on an unsecured phone in Russia.

RECKLESS


I wish libs would stop with the unsecured app nonsense.

And the lie that it was an unsecured phone. You have no idea! You obviously didn't read your own article in your frenzy to post it.

"In Russia"? Also a lie based o/n your own article.

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It is unclear whether a phone issued to Witkoff by the U.S. government or a personal device was included in the Signal chat, or whether he had the device with him in Russia...
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Maybe the trump admin should go full democrat and charge Goldberg for listening in on the chat and bankrupt him unless he lyingly implicates his coworkers or anyone else we want to persecute.
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How does Signal work?

I am envisioning a group text from the iphone on an encrypted app. that connects to your contacts. A group leader picks who they want in the group. You can name the group. Away you go. Perhaps a password to login.

Someone who has used Signal before should explain this.

If what I wrote above is correct:

1. Who started the message, because that person had Goldberg's contact in their phone.

1A. Why is Goldberg a contact?

2. If a mistake, who did you mean to add over Goldberg?

3. Like any other group message, if the other members did not have Goldberg as a contact, only a phone number would appear.

3A. Why did nobody question who that number belonged to?
 
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