Trump accepting a gifted luxury plane from Qatar?

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8:57a, 5/11/25
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Surely we are not ok with this right? A foreign power giving such an important state vehicle to the President? Never mind the Constitutional implications, what about state security?

There's a lot of things that I think Trump does well, but his biggest weakness are people playing to his ego.
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9:00a, 5/11/25
Don't heads of state give each other things all of the time?

But, yes, even with that...this is really bad optics.
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In reply to BigRobSA • 9:00a, 5/11/25
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BigRobSA said:
Don't heads of state give each other things all of the time?

But, yes, even with that...this is really bad optics.


Not a luxury plane to be used as the primary executive transportation
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9:01a, 5/11/25
Boeing has ****ed up the new AF1 so bad we've had to go this route temporarily. What's the problem? You think Trump is going to suddenly be more sympathetic and give handouts under the table to the them?
There's nothing wrong with this.
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In reply to BigRobSA • 9:02a, 5/11/25
BigRobSA said:
Don't heads of state give each other things all of the time?

But, yes, even with that...this is really bad optics.
The bad optics are for Boeing. They're not getting done what was required for them to do.
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9:04a, 5/11/25
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How does one "poise" to accept something? You either accept it or you don't
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In reply to captkirk • 9:05a, 5/11/25
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captkirk said:
How does one "poise" to accept something? You either accept it or you don't


It's supposed to be announced at an upcoming visit to Qatar
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9:07a, 5/11/25
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Won't be any tracking devices on that plane. Seems like a terrible idea.

And seems like something dems will turn into impeachment
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In reply to ts5641 • 9:08a, 5/11/25
ts5641 said:
BigRobSA said:
Don't heads of state give each other things all of the time?

But, yes, even with that...this is really bad optics.
The bad optics are for Boeing. They're not getting done what was required for them to do.
Not familar with anything related to Boeing and any AF1 hubbub. Couldn't give a flying F about my #1 employees transportation issues, honestly.

No, this is bad optics. Period.

Whether a PotUS would, or would not, give preference to the gift giver (nation or person), there would be that asterisk in discussions. Like with DEI and a minority applicant. That applicant might have gotten in without DEI, buuuuuut......

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9:09a, 5/11/25
The question is "what are the standards for gifts to presidential libraries?"

Anyone know the answer?

Seems we should know that before rushing to condemn or defend

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In reply to Kyle Field Shade Chaser • 9:09a, 5/11/25
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Kyle Field Shade Chaser said:
Won't be any tracking devices on that plane. Seems like a terrible idea.

And seems like something dems will turn into impeachment


Trump would have to do something way off the reservation for a Republican controlled Congress to impeach him.
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9:11a, 5/11/25
IMO, not a good look.
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In reply to Im Gipper • 9:12a, 5/11/25
Im Gipper said:
The question is "what are the standards for gifts to presidential libraries?"

Anyone know the answer?

Seems we should know that before rushing to condemn or defend
It's a LIBRARY, a plane would just be way too loud to be in one!
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In reply to ts5641 • 9:12a, 5/11/25
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ts5641 said:
Boeing has ****ed up the new AF1 so bad we've had to go this route temporarily. What's the problem? You think Trump is going to suddenly be more sympathetic and give handouts under the table to the them?
There's nothing wrong with this.


1.) If we really need the jet, then the USAF should buy or lease it for a reasonable consideration. I'll wait for further confirmation this story is true, because it was originally reported that the USAF was going to pay for the jet. It would be beyond the pale to accept it as a gift.

2.) Yes, Trump has shown to be easily influenced.
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9:13a, 5/11/25
Definitely not a good look but at least it's a little more transparent than a $30M book deal.
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9:14a, 5/11/25
We should also not rule out this is highly likely MSM FAKE NEWS!






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9:15a, 5/11/25
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Accept the plane. Park it and never use it. Qatar is a terrorist state and no plane from them can be trusted with the POTUS
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9:15a, 5/11/25
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So... Qatar gives $$$ to A&M (via college programs), and crickets.

But... Qatar gives $$$ to Trump (via a plane), and there's an outrage?

So, is it the gift or the size of the gift? I;m just trying to understand the rules.

All I know is, damn... Qatar must have a lot of money to throw around.
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9:15a, 5/11/25
Everyone's a *****, some just charge higher prices. We still have a campus in Qatar don't we?
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9:15a, 5/11/25
I don't see an issue with it. Unless there is some obvious quid pro quo this is a nothing burger.
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In reply to Im Gipper • 9:15a, 5/11/25
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Im Gipper said:
We should also not rule out this is highly likely MSM FAKE NEWS!







Either that or it gives the White House a chance to change course quickly, which the President absolutely should.
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In reply to ChemAg15 • 9:16a, 5/11/25
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ChemAg15 said:
Accept the plane. Park it and never use it. Qatar is a terrorist state and no plane from them can be trusted with the POTUS
And A&M is complicit.
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9:18a, 5/11/25
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A&M Qatar is closing in 2028. But again, A&M Qatar is not Air Force One. Everyone trying to excuse this is comparing it to things that are not Air Force One.
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In reply to CheeseSndwch • 9:18a, 5/11/25
CheeseSndwch said:
Definitely not a good look but at least it's a little more transparent than a $30M book deal.
Just like the $288 million that Elon gave to Trump's campaign.

Notice, like the plane, Elon's money wasn't given to Trump directly, even if he still gets to benefit from it in some way.

But, yes, at least it's more transparent than a book deal.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to Nonregdrummer09 • 9:19a, 5/11/25
Nonregdrummer09 said:
A&M Qatar is closing in 2028. But again, A&M Qatar is not Air Force One. Everyone trying to excuse this is comparing it to things that are not Air Force One.
Are you sure?

Have you ever seen them both in the same room, at the same time, hmm?!
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In reply to zephyr88 • 9:21a, 5/11/25
zephyr88 said:
So... Qatar gives $$$ to A&M (via college programs), and crickets.

But... Qatar gives $$$ to Trump (via a plane), and there's an outrage?

So, is it the gift or the size of the gift? I;m just trying to understand the rules.

All I know is, damn... Qatar must have a lot of money to throw around.
Like Saudi Arabia, Qatar has Oil and gas money. And like Saudi Arabia, they're Muslim AF. But also like with Saudi Arabia, Trump has no problem with the Muslims of Qatar; if only one could figure out why.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to zephyr88 • 9:21a, 5/11/25
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zephyr88 said:
So... Qatar gives $$$ to A&M (via college programs), and crickets.


Crickets from who? There are pages and pages of F16 topics with TexAgs users saying the A&M campus in Qatar is concerning.
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In reply to TriAg2010 • 9:26a, 5/11/25
TriAg2010 said:
zephyr88 said:
So... Qatar gives $$$ to A&M (via college programs), and crickets.


Crickets from who? There are pages and pages of F16 topics with TexAgs users saying the A&M campus in Qatar is concerning.
So there should be pages and pages of why Qatar giving Trump a plane is concerning, que no?
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to ts5641 • 9:26a, 5/11/25
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ts5641 said:
Boeing has ****ed up the new AF1 so bad we've had to go this route temporarily. What's the problem? You think Trump is going to suddenly be more sympathetic and give handouts under the table to the them?
There's nothing wrong with this.


Would be Kind of embarrassing to need hand outs from a foreign power to provide an Air Force One. That would be a first in POTUS history. If true story then I hope they at least thoroughly sweep it for bugs!
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9:27a, 5/11/25
I'm so confused. The leader of the free world has to ride around in a leftover, donated vehicle?? I don't care how nice it is, that's hilarious and projects a terrible image.

I know, I know it's 4d chess.
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9:28a, 5/11/25
Finally. Something simple I can totally get frickin werked up about. I am really really go'n to be upset, my fist or clenched…..finally I will see the light. My bubble of saintliness is burst…

…..and it really doesn't matter. I don't care.
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9:33a, 5/11/25
I remember when the Trojan horse was made of wood.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 9:43a, 5/11/25
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Logos Stick said:
I don't see an issue with it. Unless there is some obvious quid pro quo this is a nothing burger.


And yet if a Dem prez did the same thing, you and this entire board would be screeching to high holy. Since it's the Cult Leader/God Emperor though, easy to just call it a nothingburger.
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In reply to Ervin Burrell • 9:44a, 5/11/25
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Logos Stick said:
I don't see an issue with it. Unless there is some obvious quid pro quo this is a nothing burger.


And yet if a Dem prez did the same thing, you and this entire board would be screeching to high holy.


And your ilk would be calling it a nothing burger. Crazy how that works!



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9:45a, 5/11/25
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Didn't some SA country give W cocaine as a gift?
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