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What about. What about. What about.

So, yeah, I guess, what about!

You people need help.

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WHOA, David Duke, simmah dahn nah on the racism!

El Gallo Blanco said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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ABC Fake News is a complete disaster and President Trump just put another Boot in their Butt 😆😆😆 pic.twitter.com/tNu6Dlo7dQ

— Beard Vet (@Beard_Vet) May 12, 2025

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Lol this will surely trigger some of the liberal male feminists on this thread. There will never be another like him.

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I cannot wait for the next Shane Gillis riff on this. My dude is unhinged.

I just know it will be epic, "Some people will say… you can't just … this is gay… this is so totally free and gay… ABC is a lie… just totally gay plane hoax."

Mark it.

Two consecutive "my dude" comments and each gets 1 star… you're not even hiding your socks.

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They also said the only options that this plane won't have is the forward and aft air stairs. This 747-8 already has avoidance capabilities including chaff deployment. It also has the same level of electromagnetic and radiation shielding in place.

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Do you have a source for this?

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Yeah I posted a video twice already

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The lower/cargo deck stairs would have been mission critical if we had demented Peepaw back in office. He couldn't manage the full stairs up to the main deck.

Buzz lays it out humorously/well:

I’m going to try one last time.

The Qatar B-747 was built in the US by Boeing. They are offering a newer 747 to replace one of the two current AF-1s that have been flying for 40 years. Which are tired and need to be replaced. The wing based at Andrews has also purchased…

— Buzz Patterson (@BuzzPatterson) May 12, 2025

It's a major award!

"It's all based on an embarrassing misunderstanding of what Air Force One is meant to do," Aboulafia said. "If it's a gold-plated palace in the sky and nothing more, have at it. If it's an actual tool [to be used in a] worst-case contingency [like nuclear war], then this ain't it."

REALITY

I used to read his monthly newsletters but Richard Aboulafia has gone absolutely off the reservation TDS over the past year. Unsurprising, as with Tyler Rogoway.

All AF1 is, is a large plane operated by the USAF with some radios/comms in it for POTUS to use. There's no one claiming the Qatar-owned 748 will become a VC-25B, either. Much ado about nothing, as he's usually just using it to fly to Florida from DC.

I would guess the flying palace with golden toilets will only be used for domestic travel, and the existing VC-25s will continue to be used for foreign travel.

SgtStiglitz said:

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Donald Trump in 2017: Qatar has been a funder of terrorism at a very high level.

Today: Accepts a $400 million jet from Qatar, praises its leadership, and is set to visit it as one of the first countries in his second term while his family builds a luxury golf resort there.

Turns out terrorism's not a problem if the price is right.

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You make an interesting point.

The interesting point is that the last American hostage was just released. Qatar has unquestionably been a bad actor but it's also possible they are trying to 'put that behind them.'

Trump seems to value partners who want to/can work to end conflicts, and he's visiting Qatar tomorrow.

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Qatar: Military cooperation, regional security and Syria
In Qatar, where the largest US military base in the Middle East is located, Trump's agenda includes meetings with the emir, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, to discuss military cooperation and regional security.
Doha, which has close ties with Syria's new president, Ahmed al-Sharaa, may also seek Trump's support in easing sanctions on Syria.
As a key partner in regional mediation, Qatar is also expected to discuss Gaza ceasefire efforts with Trump.

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It would be good to tone down the violence/war/insanity in the region with their help, ideally without our money or blood.

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The interesting point is that the last American hostage was just released. Qatar has unquestionably been a bad actor but it's also possible they are trying to 'put that behind them.'

Trump seems to value partners who want to/can work to end conflicts, and he's visiting Qatar tomorrow.

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Qatar: Military cooperation, regional security and Syria
In Qatar, where the largest US military base in the Middle East is located, Trump's agenda includes meetings with the emir, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, to discuss military cooperation and regional security.
Doha, which has close ties with Syria's new president, Ahmed al-Sharaa, may also seek Trump's support in easing sanctions on Syria.
As a key partner in regional mediation, Qatar is also expected to discuss Gaza ceasefire efforts with Trump.

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It would be good to tone down the violence/war/insanity in the region with their help, ideally without our money or blood.

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So now we like and accept the Muslims, at least the ones that aren't actively trying to kill us, yes?

I remain entirely 'not a fan' but also recognize there's no easy/justifiable way to wipe them off the planet, either.

I do think, again, Trump is absolutely transactional in how he views leaders/countries/parties to work with, regardless of history/religion etc.

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Boeing has ****ed up the new AF1 so bad we've had to go this route temporarily. What's the problem? You think Trump is going to suddenly be more sympathetic and give handouts under the table to the them?
There's nothing wrong with this.

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yes boeing has farked the AF1 badly. but there is absolutely many things wrong with this. primarily national security.

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I remain entirely 'not a fan' but also recognize there's no easy/justifiable way to wipe them off the planet, either.

I do think, again, Trump is absolutely transactional in how he views leaders/countries/parties to work with, regardless of history/religion etc.

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Compared to the more enthusiastic folk on the right, that's about as good as it can get when it comes to seeing them, or any group of "other". Respect.

SgtStiglitz said:

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Donald Trump in 2017: Qatar has been a funder of terrorism at a very high level.

Today: Accepts a $400 million jet from Qatar, praises its leadership, and is set to visit it as one of the first countries in his second term while his family builds a luxury golf resort there.

Turns out terrorism's not a problem if the price is right.

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He's fixed them. In just over 100 days.

Trump is amazing.

Airplane schmairplane. Qatar is playing checkers


Saudi Arabia knows the way to his heart.

🚨 LMAO! The Saudis produced a MOBILE McDonald's in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia ahead of Trump's visit there.

PLEASE tell me the Saudis are going to offer him some McDonald's. The ULTIMATE sign of hospitality 🤣pic.twitter.com/80SaTu9e2o

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) May 13, 2025

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ts5641 said:

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Boeing has ****ed up the new AF1 so bad we've had to go this route temporarily. What's the problem? You think Trump is going to suddenly be more sympathetic and give handouts under the table to the them?
There's nothing wrong with this.

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yes boeing has farked the AF1 badly. but there is absolutely many things wrong with this. primarily national security.

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Has this been a large concern with prior air craft that have been purchased from other countries in the past? Since this isn't a new thing, what were the national security concerns that were overlooked previously?

Netanyahu's Israel is feeling this. the leverage

Texas velvet maestro said:

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Netanyahu's Israel is feeling this. the leverage

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I agree. There is a lot more at stake here than just a plane.

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Texas velvet maestro said:

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Netanyahu's Israel is feeling this. the leverage

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I agree. There is a lot more at stake here than just a plane.

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the recent hostage, the yemen deal, and more, now what's going in SA which is crazy

Gigem314 said:

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Obama gives Iran pallets of cash. Biden gives Afghanistan billions in military equipment.

Trump gets Qatar to give him a plane.

Interesting.

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A used plane.

A used plane worth about $70 million, that costs about $10 million a year to maintain in its current state, likely.

The main value was getting the leftists/TDS to flip out about it.

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Damn son. MSM must enjoy getting their teeth kicked in by Trump on a daily basis.

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How anyone could watch that video and think that the media got their teeth kicked in is beyond me. Why? Because he spoke confidently and brashly? It's a perfectly legitimate question and his answer is ridiculous. To act like a gift could never come with strings attached is just silly

The week the EU stooges are huddled in a train car seemingly, sheepishly doing blow, Trump is on stage in SA w American flags and Lee Greenwood playing behind him, being revered by the entire house of saud.

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Canyon99 said:

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Damn son. MSM must enjoy getting their teeth kicked in by Trump on a daily basis.

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How anyone could watch that video and think that the media got their teeth kicked in is beyond me. Why? Because he spoke confidently and brashly? It's a perfectly legitimate question and his answer is ridiculous. To act like a gift could never come with strings attached is just silly

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The very definition, concept of a gift is that it comes with NO strings attached.

It's being proposed completely out in the open and all details are available for public scrutiny.

But yea, this is just Trump accepting a bribe to help Hamas.

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Furlock Bones said:

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ts5641 said:

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Boeing has ****ed up the new AF1 so bad we've had to go this route temporarily. What's the problem? You think Trump is going to suddenly be more sympathetic and give handouts under the table to the them?
There's nothing wrong with this.

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yes boeing has farked the AF1 badly. but there is absolutely many things wrong with this. primarily national security.

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Has this been a large concern with prior air craft that have been purchased from other countries in the past? Since this isn't a new thing, what were the national security concerns that were overlooked previously?

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what aircraft does the President use that is from other countries?

Furlock Bones said:

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TacosaurusRex said:

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Furlock Bones said:

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ts5641 said:

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Boeing has ****ed up the new AF1 so bad we've had to go this route temporarily. What's the problem? You think Trump is going to suddenly be more sympathetic and give handouts under the table to the them?
There's nothing wrong with this.

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yes boeing has farked the AF1 badly. but there is absolutely many things wrong with this. primarily national security.

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Has this been a large concern with prior air craft that have been purchased from other countries in the past? Since this isn't a new thing, what were the national security concerns that were overlooked previously?

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what aircraft does the President use that is from other countries?

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Helicopters? But looks like that is also a no. Cars have always been ford or GM, no?

Maybe the motorized scooter they were considering for Biden was to be foreign made.

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Furlock Bones said:

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TacosaurusRex said:

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Furlock Bones said:

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ts5641 said:

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Boeing has ****ed up the new AF1 so bad we've had to go this route temporarily. What's the problem? You think Trump is going to suddenly be more sympathetic and give handouts under the table to the them?
There's nothing wrong with this.

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yes boeing has farked the AF1 badly. but there is absolutely many things wrong with this. primarily national security.

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Has this been a large concern with prior air craft that have been purchased from other countries in the past? Since this isn't a new thing, what were the national security concerns that were overlooked previously?

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what aircraft does the President use that is from other countries?

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Helicopters? But looks like that is also a no. Cars have always been ford or GM, no?

Maybe the motorized scooter they were considering for Biden was to be foreign made.

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The fleet of C-32 aircraft that were purchased used. One known to come from Ireland, and one from Columbia. These air craft operate as Air Force 2 and and will also be used as Air Force 1 when POTUS uses them for domestic travel with small airports.

POTUS, VP, First Lady, and the Secretary of State have access to these planes. Seems like we might want those secure.

So what national security threats were overlooked when this was done previously, and what are they skipping this time?

We have launched hundreds of military operations from Qatar…the security argument is a bit overblown…they can sweep the plane, will install all new comms gear etc. Heck, CENTCOM forward HQ is located in this country…that is a large security risk that we have mitigated.

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setsmachine said:

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Canyon99 said:

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Damn son. MSM must enjoy getting their teeth kicked in by Trump on a daily basis.

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How anyone could watch that video and think that the media got their teeth kicked in is beyond me. Why? Because he spoke confidently and brashly? It's a perfectly legitimate question and his answer is ridiculous. To act like a gift could never come with strings attached is just silly

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The very definition, concept of a gift is that it comes with NO strings attached.

It's being proposed completely out in the open and all details are available for public scrutiny.

But yea, this is just Trump accepting a bribe to help Hamas.

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Man, the Saudi Wealth Fund is awfully generous to Trump with all of these 'no strings attached' gifts and business ventures!

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An Abu Dhabi state-backed investment firm is making a major $2 billion investment in a crypto business deal that could serve as a major boost for Trump family crypto venture World Liberty Financial, according to Zach Witkoff, co-founder of World Liberty Financial

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Source: https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-family-crypto-venture-tapped-part-2b-emirati/story?id=121415842

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In Qatar, Trump will arrive just two weeks after his son Eric Trump inked a deal to develop a $5.5 billion golf club just north of Doha, called the Trump International Golf Club, Simaisima, which will include "an 18-hole golf course, exclusive clubhouse, and Trump-branded villas," according to plans.

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Source: https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-visit-gulf-region-diplomacy-collides-family-business/story?id=121655285

Furlock Bones said:

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ts5641 said:

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Boeing has ****ed up the new AF1 so bad we've had to go this route temporarily. What's the problem? You think Trump is going to suddenly be more sympathetic and give handouts under the table to the them?
There's nothing wrong with this.

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yes boeing has farked the AF1 badly. but there is absolutely many things wrong with this. primarily national security.

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You think there will be some super secret tracking device on the plane that we will not be able to find?

If so, this ain't the movies.