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chap said:

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You are just making crap up.

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Feel free to try to point out which part I made up. Sorry you don't like facts.

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It's a fact that this is being done only because Trump wants a "more luxurious ride"?

That may be your perception, but that is far from fact.

And I predict that the plane will NOT go to the Trump library but will instead be used on an ongoing basis for US VIP transport. Which would not be a waste but instead a heck of a a deal to add capacity and redundancy.

It is an extra plane in addition to the existing VC-25's. It's unnecessary.

That's an indisputable fact.

It will apparently have Trumps preferred paint scheme, a modification (among others) paid for by us.

That's a fact.

It's a less capable platform that what we already have. The chief differences other than that are the the paint scheme and interior finishings.

That's a fact.

It's my opinion that Trump is spending extra money on this plane because he wants a more luxurious ride with his preferred paint job.

Man, the paint scheme really gets under peoples skin.

Here's a little hint, the two replacement planes will be in the Trump livery.

Trump specified, Biden changed it, Trump changing it back.

Yes, a judge will issue a TRO to paint according to Biden. Yes, Congress critters will cry for the old colors because we can only have the livery chosen by Jackie.

Trumps livery is awesome and will make the plane even more of a statement for POTUS when traveling.

So long as congress can engage in insider trading, I think it's perfectly fine for a president to accept such a gift

GAC06 said:

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The influence/bribe element of this isn't a good look but that's not the part I dislike most about this. It's taking an unnecessary plane and paying to modify it purely because Trump wants a more luxurious ride with his preferred paint job. It's ridiculous.

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Awwwww poor baby. They just committed 1.2 trillion in Americans

Suck it libs

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flown-the-coop said:

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GAC06 said:

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The influence/bribe element of this isn't a good look but that's not the part I dislike most about this. It's taking an unnecessary plane and paying to modify it purely because Trump wants a more luxurious ride with his preferred paint job. It's ridiculous.

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How is the influence / bribe element "not a good look"? Is it better diplomacy to drop $400 million in bombs to gain influence?

And it's a legit jumping to a bizarre conclusion to say Trump just wants a more luxurious ride. Believe a poster earlier in this thread discussed maintenance and reliability of the current 2 747s.

Seems to me that if you don't like Trump then you simply cannot like even the most simplest of things such as securing a great deal on an interim transportation solution.

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They're keeping the existing 747's. This plane is an extra expenditure purely because he wants a more luxurious ride. That's not a "great deal", it's waste.

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Lmao. 1.2 trillion in investments with our biggest businesses

Great deal to me Felicia

Go cry elsewhere

So A&M shouldn't be associated with Qatar but Trump should accept a $400MM plane from Qatar to use as AFO and personal use later on, which one is it MAGAs?

GAC06 said:

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It's my opinion that Trump is spending extra money on this plane because he wants a more luxurious ride with his preferred paint job.

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I am sure they care on Reddit and Bluesky.

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So A&M shouldn't be associated with Qatar but Trump should accept a $400MM plane from Qatar to use as AFO and personal use later on, which one is it MAGAs?

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Can you point to the issue of Trump getting a good deal on the airplane?

You could also point to, as someone mentioned earlier, the billion they spent on our fancy base there and the hundreds of millions they spend annually covering (with others) 60% of the operating costs of the base.

But yea, this plane is totally going to corrupt 79 yo Trump who has literally done nothing but put America first, made the world safer and survived an assassins bullet whilst giving up his billionaire lifestyle.

Yep, this well painted highly luxuries ride is all he cares about and just proves how big a threat to democracy he truly is.

This thread delivers the humor.

I'll take your word for it

Ag CPA said:

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So A&M shouldn't be associated with Qatar but Trump should accept a $400MM plane from Qatar to use as AFO and personal use later on, which one is it MAGAs?

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This has never been on the table, nor has it been proposed.

GAC06 said:

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The influence/bribe element of this isn't a good look but that's not the part I dislike most about this. It's taking an unnecessary plane and paying to modify it purely because Trump wants a more luxurious ride with his preferred paint job. It's ridiculous.

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A guy at work was talking about this in the break room today. He said he read an article in the paper that said it was going to end up costing hundreds of millions of dollars to get the plane how Trump wants it and to install everything needed to make the plane workable as Air Force One. It all seems so unnecessary to me. Nothing wrong with the planes currently used as Air Force one other than they are old. They still pass all safety regulations and work as intended.

Agreed it's wasteful but they're not going to try to make it the same as the real presidential 747's. There's no way he'd get it in time to use it if they tried

flown-the-coop said:

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Ag CPA said:

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So A&M shouldn't be associated with Qatar but Trump should accept a $400MM plane from Qatar to use as AFO and personal use later on, which one is it MAGAs?

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Can you point to the issue of Trump getting a good deal on the airplane?

You could also point to, as someone mentioned earlier, the billion they spent on our fancy base there and the hundreds of millions they spend annually covering (with others) 60% of the operating costs of the base.

But yea, this plane is totally going to corrupt 79 yo Trump who has literally done nothing but put America first, made the world safer and survived an assassins bullet whilst giving up his billionaire lifestyle.

Yep, this well painted highly luxuries ride is all he cares about and just proves how big a threat to democracy he truly is.

This thread delivers the humor.

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Oh boy. No politician deserves that much idolization.

GAC06 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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GAC06 said:

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The influence/bribe element of this isn't a good look but that's not the part I dislike most about this. It's taking an unnecessary plane and paying to modify it purely because Trump wants a more luxurious ride with his preferred paint job. It's ridiculous.

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How is the influence / bribe element "not a good look"? Is it better diplomacy to drop $400 million in bombs to gain influence?

And it's a legit jumping to a bizarre conclusion to say Trump just wants a more luxurious ride. Believe a poster earlier in this thread discussed maintenance and reliability of the current 2 747s.

Seems to me that if you don't like Trump then you simply cannot like even the most simplest of things such as securing a great deal on an interim transportation solution.

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They're keeping the existing 747's. This plane is an extra expenditure purely because he wants a more luxurious ride. That's not a "great deal", it's waste.

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Clown post

The absurdity of people getting bent out of shape over this is evidenced in my response you call idolization. It's quite the opposite.

I list his accomplishments, and that is certainly going to seem like worship to people who detest him.

It's likely that whatever happens, Trump will never fly on the lux jet.

Even if Boeing could shove the job to the front of the line, it would take around five years to convert it to meet the safety, security and technical requirements for a president to even step on the craft.

And unless Trump dumps the Constitution and seizes extended control of the government, the plane could never be removed from a secure government airbase, which he would no longer be qualified to use.

captkirk said:

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GAC06 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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GAC06 said:

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The influence/bribe element of this isn't a good look but that's not the part I dislike most about this. It's taking an unnecessary plane and paying to modify it purely because Trump wants a more luxurious ride with his preferred paint job. It's ridiculous.

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How is the influence / bribe element "not a good look"? Is it better diplomacy to drop $400 million in bombs to gain influence?

And it's a legit jumping to a bizarre conclusion to say Trump just wants a more luxurious ride. Believe a poster earlier in this thread discussed maintenance and reliability of the current 2 747s.

Seems to me that if you don't like Trump then you simply cannot like even the most simplest of things such as securing a great deal on an interim transportation solution.

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They're keeping the existing 747's. This plane is an extra expenditure purely because he wants a more luxurious ride. That's not a "great deal", it's waste.

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Clown post

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Thanks for the insight

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captkirk said:

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GAC06 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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GAC06 said:

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The influence/bribe element of this isn't a good look but that's not the part I dislike most about this. It's taking an unnecessary plane and paying to modify it purely because Trump wants a more luxurious ride with his preferred paint job. It's ridiculous.

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How is the influence / bribe element "not a good look"? Is it better diplomacy to drop $400 million in bombs to gain influence?

And it's a legit jumping to a bizarre conclusion to say Trump just wants a more luxurious ride. Believe a poster earlier in this thread discussed maintenance and reliability of the current 2 747s.

Seems to me that if you don't like Trump then you simply cannot like even the most simplest of things such as securing a great deal on an interim transportation solution.

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They're keeping the existing 747's. This plane is an extra expenditure purely because he wants a more luxurious ride. That's not a "great deal", it's waste.

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Clown post

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Thanks for the insight

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You're not seeking insight, obviously

AggieAL1 said:

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It's likely that whatever happens, Trump will never fly on the lux jet.

Even if Boeing could shove the job to the front of the line, it would take around five years to convert it to meet the safety, security and technical requirements for a president to even step on the craft.

And unless Trump dumps the Constitution and seizes extended control of the government, the plane could never be removed from a secure government airbase, which he would no longer be qualified to use.

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This

captkirk said:

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AggieAL1 said:

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It's likely that whatever happens, Trump will never fly on the lux jet.

Even if Boeing could shove the job to the front of the line, it would take around five years to convert it to meet the safety, security and technical requirements for a president to even step on the craft.

And unless Trump dumps the Constitution and seizes extended control of the government, the plane could never be removed from a secure government airbase, which he would no longer be qualified to use.

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This

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The whole point of this boondoggle is to get a halfassed AF1 in service in time for Trump to ride in luxury. Do you want know how I know you didn't read the thread?

GAC06 said:

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captkirk said:

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AggieAL1 said:

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It's likely that whatever happens, Trump will never fly on the lux jet.

Even if Boeing could shove the job to the front of the line, it would take around five years to convert it to meet the safety, security and technical requirements for a president to even step on the craft.

And unless Trump dumps the Constitution and seizes extended control of the government, the plane could never be removed from a secure government airbase, which he would no longer be qualified to use.

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This

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The whole point of this boondoggle is to get a halfassed AF1 in service in time for Trump to ride in luxury. Do you want know how I know you didn't read the thread?

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Source? Hint: Jonathan Karl is not a reliable source

Try reading the thread. It's been covered. Catch up.

GAC06 said:

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Try reading the thread. It's been covered. Catch up.

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So you can't provide support for your assertions. Thanks

You won't read.

GAC06 said:

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captkirk said:

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AggieAL1 said:

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It's likely that whatever happens, Trump will never fly on the lux jet.

Even if Boeing could shove the job to the front of the line, it would take around five years to convert it to meet the safety, security and technical requirements for a president to even step on the craft.

And unless Trump dumps the Constitution and seizes extended control of the government, the plane could never be removed from a secure government airbase, which he would no longer be qualified to use.

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This

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The whole point of this boondoggle is to get a halfassed AF1 in service in time for Trump to ride in luxury. Do you want know how I know you didn't read the thread?

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Again with the making up crap.

How did Trump get to Saudi Arabia?

chap said:

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GAC06 said:

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captkirk said:

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AggieAL1 said:

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It's likely that whatever happens, Trump will never fly on the lux jet.

Even if Boeing could shove the job to the front of the line, it would take around five years to convert it to meet the safety, security and technical requirements for a president to even step on the craft.

And unless Trump dumps the Constitution and seizes extended control of the government, the plane could never be removed from a secure government airbase, which he would no longer be qualified to use.

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This

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The whole point of this boondoggle is to get a halfassed AF1 in service in time for Trump to ride in luxury. Do you want know how I know you didn't read the thread?

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Again with the making up crap.

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But, but just read the thread. He promises it's all there if you can read

Surrender accepted

Can any one hazard a guess how many hours are on these VC-25s ?

GAC06 said:

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How did Trump get to Saudi Arabia?

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He grabbed the limo steering wheel and BOOM! Saudi bound!!!!!1

flown-the-coop said:

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The absurdity of people getting bent out of shape over this is evidenced in my response you call idolization. It's quite the opposite.

I list his accomplishments, and that is certainly going to seem like worship to people who detest him.

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I don't detest Trump, but he's not all of what you say he is either, you should ALWAYS be suspicious of politicians and their motives. I don't care about the plane, I care that it's going to be Air Force One.

GAC06 said:

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Surrender accepted

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Can't wait for your next TDS/fake news fanfic. How do I subscribe to your newsletter.

AggieAL1 said:

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It's likely that whatever happens, Trump will never fly on the lux jet.

Even if Boeing could shove the job to the front of the line, it would take around five years to convert it to meet the safety, security and technical requirements for a president to even step on the craft.

And unless Trump dumps the Constitution and seizes extended control of the government, the plane could never be removed from a secure government airbase, which he would no longer be qualified to use.

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Air Force One Pavilion
(Not a "secure government airbase")