Camp Mystic and Guadalupe updates

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I think diligence is required if sending money to 'charitable' folks, period but Clara Barton ain't walking thru the door at the Red Cross these days, man.

Separately, ABC News (yes, I know) has a decent live-stream site for updates. Latest as of now;
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At least 80 people are dead after heavy rain led to "catastrophic" flooding in Texas.
At least 41 people were missing statewide as of late Sunday afternoon, officials said.
Kerr County was hit the hardest, with 68 deaths, including 28 children. President Donald Trump signed a disaster declaration for the county and the Federal Emergency Management Agency is on the ground there.
Search and rescue operations are ongoing
"Houston Astro's and Jesus Christ saved my life." I kind of laughed.
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LMCane said:

it is too easy for grifters and leaches to set up fake charities and then much of the donations goes to buy their next boat or house

why not just give to the American Red Cross?!
You mean modern grifters, that turned a once great charity into corrupt over paid crooks.
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ttu_85 said:

LMCane said:

it is too easy for grifters and leaches to set up fake charities and then much of the donations goes to buy their next boat or house

why not just give to the American Red Cross?!
You mean modern grifters, that turned a once great charity into corrupt over paid crooks.

charities are corrupt over paid crooks

the only people you should trust it is your church or you or someone you know doing it yourself
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We give to Churches of Christ Disaster Relief. They help through churches local to the disasters. They help ANYONE impacted. Don't have to be church members or Christians. Almost 87% of all donations to directly to their mission: helping those impacted by disasters. They rely heavily on volunteers to do the work so they have fewer than 20 employees.

https://www.disasterreliefeffort.org/about
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But on that night, [RickyRay] was watching the Astros game across the street, having decided not to go home when the rains began to fall.

"I was banging on that door. He couldn't hear me, so I had to kick in that door," said Robertson.

"The Astros and Jesus Christ saved my life"
RickyRay Robertson ... on duty while others slept.

Godspeed RickyRay.
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Salvatiom Amy.org
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"Stay out of the way." -basically.
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Why is it so hard to just spell whY?
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Just heard FNC hosts describe a story of children writing their names on their arm so that when their body was recovered, their identity would be known.

No doubt there has been tons of heroism and trama. Many gut wrenching stories. But also seem to be some stories that are pretty counterintuitive. I dont think people are starting lies, prob just stories being misrepresented as they are passed along, like a game of telephone. Or perhaps these kids had identification markings due to prior camp activities etc.

Its very likely these children went from being asleep to fighting for their lives in rushing water in a matter of minutes.
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FobTies said:

Just heard FNC hosts describe a story of children writing their names on their arm so that when their body was recovered, their identity would be known.

No doubt there has been tons of heroism and trama. Many gut wrenching stories. But also seem to be some stories that are pretty counterintuitive. I dont think people are starting lies, prob just stories being misrepresented as they are passed along, like a game of telephone. Or perhaps these kids had identification markings due to prior camp activities etc.

Its very likely these children went from being asleep to fighting for their lives in rushing water in a matter of minutes.
Yeah, I sometimes wonder where some of the rumors come from in these events. Like the two girls that were supposedly found in a tree 15 mi down river, which gave a lot of people hope, but turned out to be fake news.

I suspect mostly "telephone game" at play, but sometimes I wonder if there are sickos out there who just want to mess with people by creating hoax/fake news.
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FobTies said:

Just heard FNC hosts describe a story of children writing their names on their arm so that when their body was recovered, their identity would be known.

No doubt there has been tons of heroism and trama. Many gut wrenching stories. But also seem to be some stories that are pretty counterintuitive. I dont think people are starting lies, prob just stories being misrepresented as they are passed along, like a game of telephone. Or perhaps these kids had identification markings due to prior camp activities etc.

Its very likely these children went from being asleep to fighting for their lives in rushing water in a matter of minutes.

One girl that was at Camp Mystic was on CNN yesterday, and talked about how she put on her name tag in case she was swept away so it would help people identify her.
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I don't doubt they wore name tags. Like I said, prob a game of telephone where some kids higher up recall wearing a name tag in case they got separated from their group. Then its misinterpreted and retold as a story about kids marking themselves so "their bodies could be identified ".

The cabins were spread out. I doubt the poor souls down by the river had any time to reflect on their fate in that way. Honestly, I hope not, it just makes it that much worse. I hope they went from sleep to heaven as painlessly as possible.

Parents have gone through enough without thinking there might have been any window of time to get to safety alive, rather than time spent prepping for death.
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Its awful to have young ones taken like this.
It's even more awful to know that they had some absolutely terrifying last moments.

I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world. - John 16:33

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swimmerbabe11 said:


That's a lifetime of trauma.
Holy cow.
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It's crazy to think that the Guadalupe, which is basically not much more than a glorified stream most of the time turned into the 10th strongest river in the US in less than an hour. Crazy.
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I am so old I remember my Mom writing my name on every article of clothing I owned, including underwear, when I would go to Camp Fire Girl camp.

There's that scene in Back to the Future where she thinks his name is Calvin since it was on Marty's underwear.
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swimmerbabe11 said:




Ah ok, that 16 year old was in a cabin on "senior hill" that wasnt taking on water. So I guess there was time in her case to have those type of thoughts.

When I heard this originally it was in the context of cabins being flooded.

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unreal.....

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Raiderjay said:

unreal.....



I don't get it. This was shot at 5 a.m.? It wasn't dark outside?
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That looks more like a dam let-out.
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Karma is a real *****.
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In the comments someone said this was actually Center Point, TX downstream from Kerrville later that morning. I don't know if that is accurate, but that comment on the X post stating that had 200+ likes. Perhaps, someone familiar with Center Point might know. I certainly don't.
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123 San Antonio St, Center Point, TX

You can see the Dollar General and Powell Feed signs toward the end of the video.

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Looks like the main bridge in Center Point. My brother was there filming when it hit after sun had risen. Will upload his post now.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1G4PCwwzJN/?mibextid=wwXIfr

This was the first bit of water to hit Center Point.
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Silent For Too Long
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Raiderjay said:

unreal.....




You can find the whole 45 minute video on YouTube.

You can even hear victims crying out at times. It's pretty terrifying.
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V8Aggie said:

Karma is a real *****.



Hopefully this is true. Blue fish put out a statement that she was placed on leave the other day.
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https://bluefishmd.com/

It's true. Blue Fish has a statement at the top of their website addressing it.

We use Blue Fish, and ironically our pediatrician is the camp doctor for a summer camp. Certainly cannot judge the whole practice over one bad apple.
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Has there been any additional survivors found in the last day or so?
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CW Griswold said:

https://bluefishmd.com/

It's true. Blue Fish has a statement at the top of their website addressing it.

We use Blue Fish, and ironically our pediatrician is the camp doctor for a summer camp. Certainly cannot judge the whole practice over one bad apple.



Sounds like we share the same doctor
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Unfortunately, Probst was our pediatrician. Im happy to see she immediately got the axed.
She is a vile human to have those thoughts. Undiagnosed stage 4 mind virus.
It sickens me to know that we trusted our children with a crazy radical that would wish ill will on anyone based on politics.
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I started on this thread until I found out about the OB thread. There are some amazingly poor takes on her in those first 3-5 pages. Amazing they're still on there honestly.

Was so happy to see so many fight back against them and more level heads to prevail.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Has there been any additional survivors found in the last day or so?
Sadly, just body recovery, but that's still better for the families than someone never being found.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
 
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