Democrats Release Video Calling for the US Military to Openly Defy Trump and Hegseth

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Yes they are. SMH
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Why is your frustration not aimed at the prior administration for their reckless failure to enforce immigration law and skirting (abuse) of the asylum laws instead of the current administration that is having to take extraordinary measure to clean up the Biden administration's mess?

It's clear the only remedies the left would find acceptable would not be sufficient to clean up the mess in a timely manner, by design of course.

If you want to be frustrated you should direct your frustration at the administration that put these people in this position for their own selfish political gain. What is happening now is 100% the fault of Democrats that want to use mass central American migration to solidify federal one party power by swaying demographics in their favor long term and giving mass amnesty with citizenship the moment they have the votes. Surely you don't think the Democrats kept the border open out of the goodness of their hearts?

Does their reckless behavior resulting in a free flow of human trafficking and the trade of dangerous drugs including Fentanyl during the reign not bother you because it was (D)ifferent? I recently attended a Fentanyl overdose funeral and the look in the parents eyes definitely bothered me. The Democrat party is made up almost exclusively of horrible human beings that wouldn't piss on their constituents if they were on fire.
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Let me help you: he is glad those things happened. Look what liberals have done to their jurisdictions. They are destroying everything. Deliberately.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Let me help you: he is glad those things happened. Look what liberals have done to their jurisdictions. They are destroying everything. Deliberately.

Well anyone that is frustrated with the deportations and not at least equally frustrated with the Biden admin's open border policies is a giant hypocrite with alternative motives that have nothing to do with the well being of these illegal immigrants.
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Keep it up DJT
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aggieforester05 said:

Why is your frustration not aimed at the prior administration…

Answer highlighted. I'm not living in the past, bro.
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You are just content with Jasmine Crocketting answers about what role the national guard is playing.

"I don't lie like others do when I lie about what they doing and stuff".

BTW - If local law enforcement is not adequately able to do its job, POTUS can use troops to supplement. But he doesn't need to go that far. They are there to protect federal property and assist in federal law enforcement enforcing federal laws.

Do you need to give permission to the FBI to come in and investigate kidnappings? Hate crimes? Bank robberies?

Speaking of hate crimes, can a city establish itself as a sanctuary city for hate crimes? So can Vidor say we are going to burn black churches down, burn crosses, deputized the KKK and no longer rent houses to people of color? Then when Obamabiden comes in to say "oh no you dint'it" just tell the Feds to **** off? States rights?

Let us know if you support that.
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5Amp said:

Civil war before the next election, appears both sides are heating up.


One side gives a level headed reminder to troops about following unlawful orders. Not once saying unlawful orders have been given.

Potus flips his **** and calls for their trial and death.

Only one side appears to want war. The other wants some semblance of order.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Let me help you: he is glad those things happened. Look what liberals have done to their jurisdictions. They are destroying everything. Deliberately.


Please go outside. This is chronic fox rot
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ETFan said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

Let me help you: he is glad those things happened. Look what liberals have done to their jurisdictions. They are destroying everything. Deliberately.


Please go outside. This is chronic fox rot


Nah, he is right. You liberals support that stuff.
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flown-the-coop said:

Do you need to give permission to the FBI to come in and investigate kidnappings? Hate crimes? Bank robberies?

You still haven't grasped the difference between civilian law enforcement and the military?

I'll grant you that the line has been blurred in recent decades with the militarization of police, but it's at least still mostly there.
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Why was the reminder needed?

It was Obama that droned US citizens.

Biden who locked up peaceful protestors and violated their rights. Biden who called half the Country a threat to democracy. Biden who threatened to use F-15s to silence gun owners.

So maybe since they support abusing power they felt the need to remind the troops not to do it for Trump, just them?

Again, should be a very easy answer to say why it was needed, needed now, needed by those individuals, and what they are referring to exactly.

The dip arse dude from Colorado fumbled all over himself with McCallum yesterday. Much like the resident libs are falling all over themselves on this thread.
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AtomicActuator said:

flown-the-coop said:

Do you need to give permission to the FBI to come in and investigate kidnappings? Hate crimes? Bank robberies?

You still haven't grasped the difference between civilian law enforcement and the military?

I'll grant you that the line has been blurred in recent decades with the militarization of police, but it's at least still mostly there.


You don't think the FBI can leverage the military? Do you even Branch Davidian… bro? Just need to mention you smell hippie lettuce and all sorts of permissions open up.

Seems like I am not the one in need of grasping the differences. The lines are not blurred, they simply do NOT exist.

But Dems want enlisted soldiers to make this determination when following orders. Legit.
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The liberals here are acting like there was totally nothing nefarious about what the dems did.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

The liberals here are acting like there was totally nothing nefarious about what the dems did.

Recall they impeached Trump, wanted him arrested, tried to block / remove him from the ballot and all because he encouraged people to peacefully and patriotically voice their SUPPORT of their elected representatives.

Here, the Dem are encouraging division and guessing within the chain of command for the US military, which is NOT the business of Congress.

Or did they move some branches and divisions under the control of Congress and ignore the relevant parts of the Constitution?
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AtomicActuator said:

aggieforester05 said:

Why is your frustration not aimed at the prior administration…

Answer highlighted. I'm not living in the past, bro.


Well in that case I guess we can forget about history and any investigations into impropriety or lawbreaking and start focusing on precrime.

Have any links to your complaints about the Biden administration's reckless disregard for immigration law? Is the political abuse of these immigrants only a problem now that it's politically expedient?

Again crocodile tears
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You can remember history without being "frustrated" and distracted by it. When you let bad things happen today because you are distracted by bad things in the past, you are going to have a bad time.
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Lol at the Libs and CMs on here desperately trying to pretend they can't see the obvious:

These politicians claim illegal orders are happening but won't specify actually which ones but hope it's vague enough to get some idiot in the military or intelligence community to to go rogue and defy Trump and thereby create a martyr for them to rally around.

The idiots who do it will lose their careers while Dem media trip to convince us they're heroes of the cause and the politicians calling for it of course get to keep their hands clean and say "whoa now, we never specifically said what order we claimed was illegal so it's not our fault that these people chose to disobey legal orders we just don't like!"

But go on, keep telling us how this isn't the painfully obvious game plan
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Rapier108 said:



Talk about an insurrection, this is what one actually looks like far more than J6 ever did.

Of course, nothing will happen to them and they know it. If Trump actually had them arrested for sedition, it would be exactly what they want, and give them the talking point that Trump is a dictator, arresting his opponents, and plotting to take over the country.

If Trump actually issued an illegal order, the UCMJ requires it to be ignored, but that is not what the idiot Democrats are talking about. Democrats believe every order Trump issues is illegal because he is a "threat to democracy."

And yes, the video is real and not AI.

They trolled Donald Trump like Donald Trump trolls their comrades.
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Quote:

They trolled Donald Trump like Donald Trump trolls their comrades.

That was not a troll.

It was stupid, if they meant it as a troll. It was a call for violence. Still protected speech under SCOTUS precedent in Brandenburg because it lacks the imminent element.

But a very poor choice by those lawmakers who chose to participate in that. No Speech and Debate Clause out there.
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ETFan said:

5Amp said:

Civil war before the next election, appears both sides are heating up.


One side gives a level headed reminder to troops about following unlawful orders. Not once saying unlawful orders have been given.

Potus flips his **** and calls for their trial and death.

Only one side appears to want war. The other wants some semblance of order.


It really is impossible to defend left wing positions with honesty.
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The general in charge of the forces in the Southern Hemisphere stepped down when these boat attacks started.

Hmmm. One wonders why.
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ETFan said:

5Amp said:

Civil war before the next election, appears both sides are heating up.


One side gives a level headed reminder to troops about following unlawful orders. Not once saying unlawful orders have been given.

Potus flips his **** and calls for their trial and death.

Only one side appears to want war. The other wants some semblance of order.

The side that wants war has exposed themselves. They have burned down cities like Minneapolis, including murdering 40 people(re: including at least 1 police officer). They have violently attacked ICE agents that were arresting illegal aliens. They have shot at ICE in Dallas murdering illegal aliens, they have attempted,2 assassinations, they have thrown concrete blocks from bridges at ICE agents. They have rammed vehicles into ICE vehicles. I could go on but you believe your side wants a semblance of order in complete opposition of the facts.
Our troops,do not need to be reminded AND this was not done as a reminder. It was done to imply President Trump's Administration is issuing illegal orders and to sow discord hoping to incite violence.
The Democratic Party leadership is the one calling people Hitler, Fascist, King etc.
i fear for my children as the Democratic Party leadership turns further and further to the teachings of Saul Alinsky.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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shiftyandquick said:

The general in charge of the forces in the Southern Hemisphere stepped down when these boat attacks started.

Hmmm. One wonders why.


Because they cut off his friends supply line. Dude was a probably knee deep in with the cartels.

Investigate him now.

(See how easy it is to just make up a fun reason 'why'?)
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aggiehawg said:

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They trolled Donald Trump like Donald Trump trolls their comrades.

That was not a troll.

It was stupid, if they meant it as a troll. It was a call for violence. Still protected speech under SCOTUS precedent in Brandenburg because it lacks the imminent element.

But a very poor choice by those lawmakers who chose to participate in that. No Speech and Debate Clause out there.

No it literally was not.

What the hell is going on?
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richardag said:

ETFan said:

5Amp said:

Civil war before the next election, appears both sides are heating up.


One side gives a level headed reminder to troops about following unlawful orders. Not once saying unlawful orders have been given.

Potus flips his **** and calls for their trial and death.

Only one side appears to want war. The other wants some semblance of order.

The side that wants war has exposed themselves. They have burned down cities like Minneapolis, including murdering 40 people(re: including at least 1 police officer). They have violently attacked ICE agents that were arresting illegal aliens. They have shot at ICE in Dallas murdering illegal aliens, they have attempted,2 assassinations, they have thrown concrete blocks from bridges at ICE agents. They have rammed vehicles into ICE vehicles. I could go on but you believe your side wants a semblance of order in complete opposition of the facts.
Our troops,do not need to be reminded AND this was not done as a reminder. It was done to imply President Trump's Administration is issuing illegal orders and to sow discord hoping to incite violence.
The Democratic Party leadership is the one calling people Hitler, Fascist, King etc.
i fear for my children as the Democratic Party leadership turns further and further to the teachings of Saul Alinsky.

Was just through there on a kayak trip to the BWCA.. It was not burned down. So I'm done reading here.
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ETFan said:

5Amp said:

Civil war before the next election, appears both sides are heating up.
Only one side appears to want war. The other wants some semblance of order.
Agreed. One side has already made shots and taken lives.
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aggiehawg said:

Quote:

They trolled Donald Trump like Donald Trump trolls their comrades.

That was not a troll.

It was stupid, if they meant it as a troll. It was a call for violence. Still protected speech under SCOTUS precedent in Brandenburg because it lacks the imminent element.

But a very poor choice by those lawmakers who chose to participate in that. No Speech and Debate Clause out there.

I agree it was stupid and a poor choice. And intentionally vague.

A call for violence? Nah. A call for insurrection? Come on. Should congress critters record something like this? Absolutely not. Poor form.

Maybe it's unintentional trolling, but it is Trump level trolling. They got the reaction they were looking for.

Had Rs done this during Biden, many of you would have cheered it on.
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dmart90 said:

aggiehawg said:

Quote:

They trolled Donald Trump like Donald Trump trolls their comrades.

That was not a troll.

It was stupid, if they meant it as a troll. It was a call for violence. Still protected speech under SCOTUS precedent in Brandenburg because it lacks the imminent element.

But a very poor choice by those lawmakers who chose to participate in that. No Speech and Debate Clause out there.

I agree it was stupid and a poor choice. And intentionally vague.

A call for violence? Nah. A call for insurrection? Come on. Should congress critters record something like this? Absolutely not. Poor form.

Maybe it's unintentional trolling, but it is Trump level trolling. They got the reaction they were looking for.

Had Rs done this during Biden, many of you would have cheered it on.

What is the entire premise of the Oath Keepers? Those guys were front and center on Jan 6 and are MAGA through and through.

Yes, they were literally cheered and goaded even.
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Not even close to the same. Come on.
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dmart90 said:

aggiehawg said:

Quote:

They trolled Donald Trump like Donald Trump trolls their comrades.

That was not a troll.

It was stupid, if they meant it as a troll. It was a call for violence. Still protected speech under SCOTUS precedent in Brandenburg because it lacks the imminent element.

But a very poor choice by those lawmakers who chose to participate in that. No Speech and Debate Clause out there.

I agree it was stupid and a poor choice. And intentionally vague.

A call for violence? Nah. A call for insurrection? Come on. Should congress critters record something like this? Absolutely not. Poor form.

Maybe it's unintentional trolling, but it is Trump level trolling. They got the reaction they were looking for.

Had Rs done this during Biden, many of you would have cheered it on.


Another terrible take.
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shiftyandquick said:

dmart90 said:

aggiehawg said:

Quote:

They trolled Donald Trump like Donald Trump trolls their comrades.

That was not a troll.

It was stupid, if they meant it as a troll. It was a call for violence. Still protected speech under SCOTUS precedent in Brandenburg because it lacks the imminent element.

But a very poor choice by those lawmakers who chose to participate in that. No Speech and Debate Clause out there.

I agree it was stupid and a poor choice. And intentionally vague.

A call for violence? Nah. A call for insurrection? Come on. Should congress critters record something like this? Absolutely not. Poor form.

Maybe it's unintentional trolling, but it is Trump level trolling. They got the reaction they were looking for.

Had Rs done this during Biden, many of you would have cheered it on.

What is the entire premise of the Oath Keepers? Those guys were front and center on Jan 6 and are MAGA through and through.

Yes, they were literally cheered and goaded even.


You never answered my Q about Reagan breaking the law and arming the contras. Not surprised.
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Logos Stick said:

shiftyandquick said:

dmart90 said:

aggiehawg said:

Quote:

They trolled Donald Trump like Donald Trump trolls their comrades.

That was not a troll.

It was stupid, if they meant it as a troll. It was a call for violence. Still protected speech under SCOTUS precedent in Brandenburg because it lacks the imminent element.

But a very poor choice by those lawmakers who chose to participate in that. No Speech and Debate Clause out there.

I agree it was stupid and a poor choice. And intentionally vague.

A call for violence? Nah. A call for insurrection? Come on. Should congress critters record something like this? Absolutely not. Poor form.

Maybe it's unintentional trolling, but it is Trump level trolling. They got the reaction they were looking for.

Had Rs done this during Biden, many of you would have cheered it on.

What is the entire premise of the Oath Keepers? Those guys were front and center on Jan 6 and are MAGA through and through.

Yes, they were literally cheered and goaded even.


You never answered my Q about Reagan breaking the law and arming the contras. Not surprised.


Ollie North adjacent stuff? He went to prison as I recall.
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ETFan said:

richardag said:

ETFan said:

5Amp said:

Civil war before the next election, appears both sides are heating up.


One side gives a level headed reminder to troops about following unlawful orders. Not once saying unlawful orders have been given.

Potus flips his **** and calls for their trial and death.

Only one side appears to want war. The other wants some semblance of order.

The side that wants war has exposed themselves. They have burned down cities like Minneapolis, including murdering 40 people(re: including at least 1 police officer). They have violently attacked ICE agents that were arresting illegal aliens. They have shot at ICE in Dallas murdering illegal aliens, they have attempted,2 assassinations, they have thrown concrete blocks from bridges at ICE agents. They have rammed vehicles into ICE vehicles. I could go on but you believe your side wants a semblance of order in complete opposition of the facts.
Our troops,do not need to be reminded AND this was not done as a reminder. It was done to imply President Trump's Administration is issuing illegal orders and to sow discord hoping to incite violence.
The Democratic Party leadership is the one calling people Hitler, Fascist, King etc.
i fear for my children as the Democratic Party leadership turns further and further to the teachings of Saul Alinsky.

Was just through there on a kayak trip to the BWCA.. It was not burned down. So I'm done reading here.

I don't care about your trip. You may want to read
What was the total cost of property damage during the George Floyd riots in 2020?
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  • Taken together, the evidence supports a consensus range: insured losses were about $1 billion to $2 billion, with additional, substantial local and public costsfor instance Minneapolis's $350 million-plus private damage and other state talliesraising the plausible total economic impact well above insured payouts.
Maybe next time try to actually research the topic.
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