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Your party, sir, is wicked and treasonous.

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Dare I say evil? Evil seeks to destroy people.

Did they namedrop anyone or are we assuming? No orders from the admin seem unlawful so what is the issue?

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It's simple. Just tell the Haitians to quit eating the cats and dogs. Simple.

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So to recap you stated Haitian immigrants were stealing and eating pets (cats and dogs) and geese from local parks

I responded by asking proof

You provide me 3 links as proof

I went thru all 3 links and broke down the contents of each link and from that I concluded that none of the evidence is substantiated or in some cases contradicted. (Even your 2nd link argues against your claim)

And all you can do is resort to a form of bare assertion fallacy.

I was hoping you actually had actual substantiated evidence because I am willing to have my mind changed based on what the facts and evidence show and not what I want them to be.

Just admit that while you believe Haitians are killing and eating pet cats and dogs as well as local park birds in Springfield Ohio, you don't have the evidence to back it up. Your beliefs (not evidence) have determined your conclusion. If you were to have followed the scientific method you went straight from hypothesis to conclusions and left out testing your hypothesis or analyzing your data

Please tell any Haitians you know to please stop eating our cats, dogs and ducks.

They can eat all the annoying geese they desire. As long as the spirit of the goose does not cause them to go around honking all the time.

To conclude with the scientific reasoning, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

But you have now spent 3 days coming back to this, I think its time you moved on our you can pet semetary the thread from a year ago and we can rehash the Haitians eating cats and dogs one more time. But for this thread, you should leave it be.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Not true. Not reacting gives it even more credence and they will just keep ratcheting it up.

Fight fire with fire. When they call for water, piss on them.

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This, it would be so much easier if Trump was more articulate in his responses. He keeps giving them ammunition that is not necessary. Give articulate calculated responses and the left loses in public opinion every time.

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They're losing every time now...let him be who he is. I thoroughly enjoy watching their heads explode every time.

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I just don't care anymore what Trump says or tweets at this point. The Dems aided by the media have lost their collective minds since he came down the stairs at Trump tower in 2015 and have incited and encouraged their base to insane levels of derangement. It all starts there. They've acted like complete unhinged fools and pulled every dirty trick in the book to undermine Trumps presidencies, many illegal and almost all built on lies and gaslighting. This latest stunt encouraging active military to "RESIST!" is just one in a long long string of similar outrageousness.

Sorry, my decorum give a **** meter is smashed beyond repair.

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THIS.

Not to mention there is the argument that some of the actions since 2017 probably do rate it in other eras. Its amazing the lack of any self-awareness those wreckers have about their past actions.

This is not the "sign" Trump is a dictator they think it is.

The irony is I truly believe the Maga folks (and every Republican who doesn't speak out against the graft, crime, constant violence, disrespect for laws/norms/constitution, immorality, etc.) is morally bankrupt and the furthest thing from being a Christian.

You call Democrats evil for not wanting to vilify trans folks (who've existed since the dawn of time). You say Dems are evil for being pro-choice when so many of your leaders have forced or would force their side hustles to have abortions to save their career. And no, being pro choice is not being pro-abortion. It's just a freaking libertarian stance. Leave all medical decisions to a woman and her doctor--anyone here who has grieved over a pregnancy loss or late term medical crisis understands. You feel taxes are theft, ignoring some sort of social safety net is necessary for freedom and international competition. None of this. NONE of this is equivalent to the gross evil, lies, malpractice you excuse now.

Those of you who cast being a Trump supporter as the moral way and Democrats as evil--you are wrong are part of the problem. I raised my kids that two wrongs don't make a right. But here you are, doing mental twists so that your wrong is justified. You are destroying our country and your grand kids future. That is shameful and you will meet your maker some day.

Gone are libertarian Republicans in a principled sense of the word other than Massey. Debt higher than ever. Corporate America retreating from the excellence of our past because the massive regulatory swings make planning impossible. We need to elect a Congress that compromises and stands for something outside of the blackmail of Trump, Murdoch, Foreign Money and Leonard Leo.

What are you FOR rather than what do you want to excuse? Find your principles.

The Republican party is the furthest thing from Christ right now. Decent Christians have been manipulated by a lying, cheating, fake tan Pied Piper who only wants to do what's in his best interests. If you can't see that, I can't help you.

I did not see one thing as Christian entire post. Lots of judgment of people though, so maybe the Baptist?

I'm a Pope Francis and Pope Leo Catholic.

Now do "moral leftists supporting Hamas terrorist massacres and rapes"

we are eagerly awaiting your response!

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The irony is I truly believe the Maga folks (and every Republican who doesn't speak out against the graft, crime, constant violence, disrespect for laws/norms/constitution, immorality, etc.) is morally bankrupt and the furthest thing from being a Christian.

You call Democrats evil for not wanting to vilify trans folks (who've existed since the dawn of time). You say Dems are evil for being pro-choice when so many of your leaders have forced or would force their side hustles to have abortions to save their career. And no, being pro choice is not being pro-abortion. It's just a freaking libertarian stance. Leave all medical decisions to a woman and her doctor--anyone here who has grieved over a pregnancy loss or late term medical crisis understands. You feel taxes are theft, ignoring some sort of social safety net is necessary for freedom and international competition. None of this. NONE of this is equivalent to the gross evil, lies, malpractice you excuse now.

Those of you who cast being a Trump supporter as the moral way and Democrats as evil--you are wrong are part of the problem. I raised my kids that two wrongs don't make a right. But here you are, doing mental twists so that your wrong is justified. You are destroying our country and your grand kids future. That is shameful and you will meet your maker some day.

Gone are libertarian Republicans in a principled sense of the word other than Massey. Debt higher than ever. Corporate America retreating from the excellence of our past because the massive regulatory swings make planning impossible. We need to elect a Congress that compromises and stands for something outside of the blackmail of Trump, Murdoch, Foreign Money and Leonard Leo.

What are you FOR rather than what do you want to excuse? Find your principles.

The Republican party is the furthest thing from Christ right now. Decent Christians have been manipulated by a lying, cheating, fake tan Pied Piper who only wants to do what's in his best interests. If you can't see that, I can't help you.

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Oh look.

The Devil quoting scripture to make you think he's the good guy and the victim

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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he wasn't real.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Killing narco terrorists is not illegal. Hope we kill all of them.

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Pedos?

Let's put together a Epstein cruise ship and take care of it thusly. Pedo protectors also invited. Likely will need two ships.

94DCAg said:

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I'm a Pope Francis and Pope Leo Catholic.

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Many Catholics have been willingly gaslit into their leaders Marxist beliefs. And then they throw in a bit a taqiyah to top off the ecumenical push of these heretic popes.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Start another thread. We covered Haitians eating pets in Ohio a year ago.

We don't want that stuff here. Feel free to move to Haiti if you like it.

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A red herring is a logical fallacy where someone introduces an irrelevant topic to distract from the original issue at hand. The goal is to mislead the audience by shifting the focus to a different subject, which can be a related but tangential point, an emotional appeal, or a personal attack. This is often done to avoid addressing a weakness, make a weak argument seem stronger, or simply derail the conversation.

These people are doing this to fundraise and be dramatic and to get interviews. They are attention seeking narcissists like most politicians on either side. I think they just cant help themselves and have to come up with these dramatic fantasies to stay relevant to their crazy base and to create a narrative to the crazies for the midterms.

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I'm a Pope Francis and Pope Leo Catholic.

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As a JP2 Catholic myself, they're a big part of the reason I'm a lapsed Catholic, now. Your statement means you're a socialist. Congrats?

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Start another thread. We covered Haitians eating pets in Ohio a year ago.

We don't want that stuff here. Feel free to move to Haiti if you like it.

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A red herring is a logical fallacy where someone introduces an irrelevant topic to distract from the original issue at hand. The goal is to mislead the audience by shifting the focus to a different subject, which can be a related but tangential point, an emotional appeal, or a personal attack. This is often done to avoid addressing a weakness, make a weak argument seem stronger, or simply derail the conversation.

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To be very clear, I asked the poster to move on multiple times after seeing that Haitian cat dinners was emotionally charged for them. It wasn't intended nor taken on as. Red herring and or derail.

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Start another thread. We covered Haitians eating pets in Ohio a year ago.

We don't want that stuff here. Feel free to move to Haiti if you like it.

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A red herring is a logical fallacy where someone introduces an irrelevant topic to distract from the original issue at hand. The goal is to mislead the audience by shifting the focus to a different subject, which can be a related but tangential point, an emotional appeal, or a personal attack. This is often done to avoid addressing a weakness, make a weak argument seem stronger, or simply derail the conversation.

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To be very clear, I asked the poster to move on multiple times after seeing that Haitian cat dinners was emotionally charged for them. It wasn't intended nor taken on as. Red herring and or derail.

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That wasn't directed at you, my friend.

Oh I know, bud those who shall never be named hate the derails.

So.....you voted for Hillary, Obiden and Kamala?

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Video reminding military their oath are to the constitution and not dear leader, to not obey illegal orders. Soldier, sailer, Marine, etc 101. Basic *****


Texags "SEDITION!!!"

Maybe step back and consider why they felt this basic reminder was necessary instead of jumping in to your feels.

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Starting withe Senator Mark Kelly @ the 31 second point
Mark Kelly - " This Administration is pitting our uniformed military"
Elissa Slotkin - "and the intelligence community"
Jason Crow- "against American citizens"
then @the 42 second point
Chris Deluzio- "the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad"
Jason Crow- "but from right here at home"

You are wrong, they are explicitly saying this Administration, they are directly accusing President Trump's Administration of ordering our military into illegal, unconstitutional acts. They are lying and know they are lying.

This wasn't done to remind our military of its Code of Conduct but to enrage the minions in the MSM, the Democratic Party leadership and uniformed public to incite violence.

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Shipwreckedcrew with a very good take.

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They serving members of the Government in the Congress have made a video directing their comments at the active duty military from E-1 Privates to O-10 Admirals or Generals referencing "this Administration" as the subject of their "advice" and "counsel" have potentially interfered with the chain-of-command in a way that causes insubordination and refusal of duty.
They have invited an investigation by the federal law enforcement community under the direction of the Attorney General to undertake an examination on the subject of whether their words moved from the realm of free speech to a violation of federal law they themselves have sworn an oath to uphold.

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[url=https://shipwreckedcrew.substack.com/p/doj-should-begin-a-criminal-investigation?utm_campaign=email-post&r=5fxfi8&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email][/url]And he points out that "18 U.S.C. Sec. 2387 makes it illegal to advise, counsel or in any manner cause insubordination or refusal of duty by any member of the military."

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,,,…,,,
Shipwreckedcrew with a very good take.


[url=https://shipwreckedcrew.substack.com/p/doj-should-begin-a-criminal-investigation?utm_campaign=email-post&r=5fxfi8&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email][/url]And he points out that "18 U.S.C. Sec. 2387 makes it illegal to advise, counsel or in any manner cause insubordination or refusal of duty by any member of the military."

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Thank you for the information.
I would really really like to have all the communications between these people. I believe it would be very enlightening.
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BREAKING: President Trump appears to suggest Senate and House Democrats violated 18 U.S.C. 2387, “Activities Affecting Armed Forces General” when they called for sedition by the military.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) November 23, 2025

will25u said:

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BREAKING: President Trump appears to suggest Senate and House Democrats violated 18 U.S.C. 2387, “Activities Affecting Armed Forces General” when they called for sedition by the military.

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) November 23, 2025

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I don't think anything will happen to those democrats, but I'm all for tying their asses up in court. The dems started this lawfare crap. It's only fair they get it returned in kind.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Killing narco terrorists is not illegal. Hope we kill all of them.

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Pedos?

Let's put together a Epstein cruise ship and take care of it thusly. Pedo protectors also invited. Likely will need two ships.

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Have those people been declared terrorists and I missed it? I hate pedos, but that's a completely different thing.