Not the same as the Aussies that went up the Kokoda Track in WWII. Giving up liberty for security always works-right.

laavispa said:

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Not the same as the Aussies that went up the Kokoda Track in WWII. Giving up liberty for security always works-right.

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Certainly not. When you scare the **** out of the indoctrinated, no fear Imperial Japanese back then, then you are a badass.

THAT.

On a more general question, what is the real purpose of this kind of terrorism? What happens if a nation were to react sensibly to it, like any pre-1940's would, or the Middle Ages? Namely, destroy most known members of such a group, and kick out the rest. What is it really trying to achieve --- would it work in Xi's China? Why is this such a go to when all you need is to not react like the MSM-Progressive "global commentariat" (Australia's govt a perfect example and so is UK's) insists on -- but instead discarded any restraint.

It might be useful to distinguish between two main types of terrorism of this kind as far as the `catalyst' is.

The methods can be identical, a beach shot up in either case.

A) There is terrorism against occupiers, or an order that insists on ruling your land.

B) There is terrorism by importees or immigrants within a host country they are now in. That is what is happening in UK and Australia, and whenever it occurs here.

Type (A) is tricky, because part of the onus is on the recent occupier and the violence is to spur them to do so. They can always leave. (That's us in Iraq, Russia in Afghanistan)

Type (B) should be simpler. Importees, refugess, recent immigrants -- are all at the theoretical behest of the host. Misconduct by them should not be tolerated, and en-mass expulsion should always remain a card on the table. So the question is what is the purpose of the (B) type of terrorism like killing the National Guardswoman in D.C? YouBet brought up Imperial Japan. Imagine if it got the response they would have given. Why are such acts done -- does it entirely count on a Pritzker kind of enabling rather than a rational disposing of the culprits?

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Teddy KGB said:

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Fightin' Texas Aggie https://t.co/i96VjGHqSM

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Thank You for sharing that.

The concept of trying to use a cop's gun to defend against an armed attacker is something that most Australians will not understand.

Who?mikejones! said:

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BREAKING: New laws banning public assembly have been laid out by Premier Chris Minns.

How does this Premier justify extraordinary new powers to address a “problem” that has not even manifested?

Is multiculturalism so delicate it can’t stand democracy? pic.twitter.com/m748NZNlCu

— Aus Integrity (@QBCCIntegrity) December 19, 2025

Appears that Australia has chosen the totalitarian theocracy with leftism standing in for the religion

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Subtle observation, during the explanation, he said "14 days" instead of "Fortnight".

I wonder why he didn't use traditional Australian language.

Nevermind the ruling. Note that it only comes into play after the NSW Police have declared a terrorist event. Interesting.

If it was me, I would have let people gather but require armed security / police presence.

HollywoodBQ said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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BREAKING: New laws banning public assembly have been laid out by Premier Chris Minns.

How does this Premier justify extraordinary new powers to address a “problem” that has not even manifested?

Is multiculturalism so delicate it can’t stand democracy? pic.twitter.com/m748NZNlCu

— Aus Integrity (@QBCCIntegrity) December 19, 2025

Appears that Australia has chosen the totalitarian theocracy with leftism standing in for the religion

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Subtle observation, during the explanation, he said "14 days" instead of "Fortnight".

I wonder why he didn't use traditional Australian language.

Nevermind the ruling. Note that it only comes into play after the NSW Police have declared a terrorist event. Interesting.

If it was me, I would have let people gather but require armed security / police presence.

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Good catch. It means not only is he a globalist, but probably a fake Aussie in background. Certainly has mindset unworthy of Down Under. At least the mid-20th C version had become familiar with in contacts.

Remember the scene in Braveheart with Longshanks --- so many of the EU leaders and politicians like this need to be cast out and down.

Leftist authoritarians. They and the third world migrants will be the end of Australia. Us too, but Australia first.

Add Australia as another country I'll never visit.

Australia's problem isn't guns (well the lack of gun ownership is a problem) nor is it public assembly. Their problem, and that of parts of Europe, and in the United States is allowing people from certain parts of the world come into their county. So much trash has come in, including muslims, but others as well. Diversity is a huge weakness and will ruin any organization or area that promotes it or allows it.

There are a couple of news stories coming out now about the actions of the surf lifesavers who were on the beach at the time of the attack.

There were some of the professional lifeguards who are profiled in a show called "Bondi Rescue" who were on scene and there were also some of the local surf lifesaving clubs who responded.

I saw some pictures of a bunch of rescue boards - like 12-15 boards, being used as stretchers to carry people off the beach.

There is also some video of one of the professional surf lifesavers who helped hide a big group behind one of their ATVs while the shooting was in progress. And one of the surf lifesavers even swam out to make a rescue while shots were being fired.

Here's a memorial they did across Australia.

Note - the professional Bondi Rescue Lifesavers wear a light blue uniform while the volunteer surf lifesaving club members (SLSC) wear the yellow and red swimming costumes (cozzies in Strine).

The volume of CCTV footage is interesting.

Showing the perps rehearsing 2 days prior to the attack.

And this reporter over uses "allegedly".

"allegedly" like "suspect" is extremely annoying when one is talking about an unquestioned culprit, or perpetrator and that word is more apt.

Australia is lost…

BREAKING:

The Australian Federal Police issue a statement on the Bondi Beach Massacre pic.twitter.com/OpQTdKPhWj

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) December 26, 2025

Gaeilge said:

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Australia is lost…

BREAKING:

The Australian Federal Police issue a statement on the Bondi Beach Massacre pic.twitter.com/OpQTdKPhWj

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) December 26, 2025

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This statement must be for Aussie leftists, so they can maintain their delusional narratives about muslim immigrants. They can now say that "there is no evidence" that the Bondi massacre was fueled by religious hatred and extremism.

lol! This must be the weirdest 2 sided coin. On one hand they'll defend actual anti-semites that kill Jews for being Jews. Yet on the other, they'll call you an anti-Semite for questioning the State of Israel. 2 + 2 = 5.

I will never visit that pos country.

You're missing out.

This just might be the stupidest public statement from a LEO that I've ever heard. It defies the imagination. What are they blaming it on? Private gun ownership?

Stalin would be embarrassed to peddle this line of BS...

Australia is a dystopian state now.

That is a fake quote. I still don't agree with what she said, but that particular quote is fake/wildly out of context.

EFR said:

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That is a fake quote. I still don't agree with what she said, but that particular quote is fake/wildly out of context.

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It's not fake. It's a reasonable interpretation of Barrett's statment that the killers were ISIS inspired but making the contradictory statement that the killers were not aligned to a religion.

https://www.npr.org/2025/12/16/g-s1-102389/bondi-beach-shooting-inspired-islamic-state

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Krissy Barrett, Australia's federal police commissioner, made the announcement during a press conference Tuesday.

"Early indications point to a terrorist attack inspired by Islamic State, allegedly committed by a father and son", she said. "There is no evidence to suggest other individuals were involved in this attack, however we caution that this could change given it is early in our investigation."

Revealing that early evidence collection has given police investigators a swathe of information that let them make this initial assessment about the suspects and their motivations, the commissioner said: "these are the alleged actions of those who have aligned themselves with a terrorist organisation, not a religion."

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She is essentially saying the Islam is not the inspiration for Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. Leave it to a leftist to apologize for ISIS giving Islam a bad name.











The infamous one finger ISIS salute is the symbol of the shahada, the Islamic statement of faith shahada which is that "there is no god but allah and Muhamed is his messenger." But Krissy Barrett says the killers were not aligned to a religion and she will arrest you and throw you in prison if you say differently.

EFR said:

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That is a fake quote. I still don't agree with what she said, but that particular quote is fake/wildly out of context.

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And you're too ignorant to look it up yourself and realize it's not a fake quote.

Hop on Twitter and type in her name if you'd like another source.

Sky News Australia good enough for you?

AFP Commissioner Krissy Barrett has faced criticism for saying the Bondi Beach terrorist attack was “not motivated by religion” amid concerns that authorities have overlooked extremist motivations.https://t.co/hYWLnz7Qnk

— Sky News Australia (@SkyNewsAust) December 22, 2025

Is Grok wrong too?

AFP Commissioner Krissy Barrett did state the Bondi Beach shooting was "not motivated by religion" but by ISIS inspiration, per reports from Sky News and Daily Telegraph. However, police statements note it advanced a "religious cause" via ISIS ideology. The attack targeted a…

— Grok (@grok) December 27, 2025

leftists in Australia suck just as bad as leftists in the USA

I have heard there were FOUR Australian police at the scene

who during the entire 20 minute rampage NEVER FIRED THEIR WEAPONS

Next thing you know the Aussies will round up Jewish people on camps for their protection.

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not motivated by religion, but by ISIS inspiration

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The gays that ISIS threw off the rooftops didn't die from the fall, but from the sudden stop when striking the ground.

Am I doing this right?