Mass terror attack in Australian beach...

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There are now a total of 2 cool people in Australia

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https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/texas-am-rabbis-son-wounded-in-sydney-hanukkah-shooting/
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It's ok to admit you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Whether or not the "vast majority" are practicing or not or radicalized or not is completely irrelevant.
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This data is 12 years old now and I think we can very safely assume the Muslims who condone violence crowd is bigger today vs 2013. Pew polling in 2013 indicated that only 28% of Muslims would agree that suicide bombings were never justified, meaning the other 28% at best stated that they were sometimes justified, and at worst said they're justified often or anytime. With 2 billion Muslims globally today, that equates to 560 MILLION Muslims living today that would at best consider suicide bombings occasionally justified…and again, that was based on 12 year old data. Let's just round up to 600M.

Yeah, Muslims and other religions are not the same.
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Totally shocking....terrorist was on officials "radar"
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Who?mikejones! said:



Totally shocking....terrorist was on officials "radar"


But said terrorists didn't have covid.
“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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Islamist and jihadist are pure evil. They comprise the majority of muslims.
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What about terrorism? Does that qualify? Is any terrorism ok, or does it have to be islamic?
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Sid Farkas said:

Did the Aussie authorities arrest the gun yet?

They're waiting for the bomb disposal unit to disarm it first...
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bthotugigem05 said:

Someday this board will realise that most Muslims are non-practicing and generally peaceful while the radical ones are to Islam what Westboro Baptist is to Christians.

While the Westboro Baptists are a bunch of raging d-bags, I'm going to say they've killed much fewer people than the radical Islamics...
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And surely you can appreciate that there is some nuance to things like comparisons and/or metaphors and that I was alluding to a small subset of a group calling themselves the same thing as the rest of the group and not comparing the actions of said subset 1:1.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

Who?mikejones! said:

It doesn't matter if the vast majority do or dont.

The reality is a very large amount do share such radicalized beliefs and are willing to act on it snd it seems to be a global problem.

Islam is truly unique in that way.

Religion doesn't matter here.

If you condemn the attacks, you are on the right side. If if you support the attackers, you are the enemy. It's that simple.

Yes it does.

These people didn't murder 16 people for ****s and giggles...
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AggieRob93 said:

bthotugigem05 said:

Just curious if you've ever actually spent time in the Middle East?


You ever spent time at Bondi Beach?

The media tomorrow will conflate this and say that this is reason Trump needs to ****can his AG...
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This video shows the shooters going down, then innocent spectator gets attacked at end.


MAGA Hat
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MAGA hat at an Australian Hanukkah event??


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So is the Muslim vs Jewish people the result of what's been going on in Palestine? It sure seems things have ramped up the last few years.

Also who is behind all the antisemitism going on in some universities in the US? Who is behind these schools financially?

Crazy world right now
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A proud mother. Sudden Jihadi Syndrome can break out among any flavor of 'peaceful moderate' moslem. This is what their book instructs them to do.
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bthotugigem05 said:

Just curious if you've ever actually spent time in the Middle East?


The middle east is apparently only like, if the Westboro Baptist Church had control of multiple countries with hundreds of millions of people in them…
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bthotugigem05 said:

Just curious if you've ever actually spent time in the Middle East?


Old world odor.
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DarkBrandon01 said:

zgolfz85 said:

bthotugigem05 said:

Someday this board will realise that most Muslims are non-practicing and generally peaceful while the radical ones are to Islam what Westboro Baptist is to Christians.


And far too many around the globe don't want to come to terms with what the Quran really teaches. To be non violent and non practicing as you say in the Islamic world is to be a "bad" or westernized muslim, largely ignoring what their holy book preaches. That's the difference. Westboro Baptists are not simply Christians that know the Bible "better." It's a ridiculous cult. In contrast, these terrorists are just following the laws of their sacred text. For every muslim that carries out violence, there's 10,000 that might not carry out the acts themselves, but are silently applauding it or looking the other way with no rebuke.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

Wake us up when Christians start committing frequent terrorist acts against innocent Muslims.

The vast majority of Muslims do not share your fundamentalist interpretation of the Quran.

I could point all of the ridiculous offenses that get you a death sentence in old testament and all of the commandments to wage war on other nations, but this doesn't mean all Christians have to follow this to be a true Christian.

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nortex97 said:


A proud mother. Sudden Jihadi Syndrome can break out among any flavor of 'peaceful moderate' moslem. This is what their book instructs them to do.


Yes.
And when the so called peaceful Muslims are fed propaganda they change to radical. And it is my experience that when they do not have material wealth as Jews or Christians they, led by women, promote jealousy and hatred and desires that they disguise as religion .
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Who?mikejones! said:




Aussie G-2 ain't too intelligent.
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Esteban du Plantier said:

MAGA hat at an Australian Hanukkah event??




I used to love wearing my Red MAGA hat while I stood on the sidelines at Adult O35 Womens soccer games in the Northern Beaches. The amount of reeing when I'd show up was hilarious.

Equally funny was how many blokes would ask me if I could get one for them.
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet-

but talk about a small world.

the Chabad Rabbi for Texas A&M in College Station is Rabbi Lazaroff. His son is one of the wounded from Bondi Beach terrorist attack.

Hopefully some of you who are still in College Station can help the Chabad with a memorial this week.

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This morning's update from The ABC.

Looks like the father was a member of a gun club and had a recreational hunting licence.
Owned 6 firearms.

And as others are posting - ASIO had investigated this guy back in 2019.

From a personal, professional perspective, I know that ASIO keeps tabs on lots of details about Australians so, it will be interesting to see if we get any kind of online profile history for these shooters.

They definitely appear to be lone wolf operators but, I'm wondering who they were in contact with. ASIO will know. Whether they share that or not is a different matter.

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if anyone is interested in providing support to the Jewish Aggie community:

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Muslims: "We will kill all infidels and bring jihad to the world"

Normal People: "See, they are saying exactly what they want to do to us"

Liberals: "They don't really mean it, islam is a peaceful religion with peaceful people. You are bigots for thinking otherwise"
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When I saw the face of the younger shooter, I thought there was a chance he could be Pakistani but there aren't many Pakistanis in Australia.

Looks like the Pakistanis couldn't get the word out fast enough that the shooters were Muslims from India. Obviously Pakistan is going to try to make India look as bad as possible but, I thought it was an interesting clarification.
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Sydney Shooting Revealed: Shooter Sajid Akram Confirmed Indian | Pakistan Cleared

I'm still waiting to hear how they got to Australia, how long they've been there, etc. This site is indicating they might have had some sort of Afghan connection but that doesn't make sense to me.

And of course, since it's early days in the investigation, this could all be BS. Also, this site looks like some AI generated crap so... who knows.
Quote:

New facts have emerged about the Sydney Bondi Beach attack, revealing that shooter Sajid Akram is of Indian origin, not Pakistani. Despite false claims by some media and social accounts, official investigations confirm his Afghan-Indian background. Learn the truth behind the international propaganda and how Pakistan was falsely implicated in this terror attack.



EDIT: Updated as I found a better source. And leaving the content from my original post as it's fascinating how much garbage gets generated quickly on the Internet.

The Times of India is claiming they old man is Pakistani and the son was born in Australia.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/pak-national-legally-owned-six-firearms-unemployed-what-we-know-about-bondi-beach-shooters-sajid-akram-naveed-key-findings/articleshow/125972311.cms

Sajid arrived in 1998 on a student visa from Pakistan which he converted to a "Partner Visa" in 2001. The son was born in Australia.
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If this attack would have been on Frishman Beach (lord forbid) the Hamas terrorists would have been taken out in under a minute by armed civilians.

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bthotugigem05 said:

agent-maroon said:

Taking the guns away from otherwise law abiding citizens prevents shootings much like taking away locks & security systems would help prevent burglaries...

I mean look at Australia's gun policies and statistics since 1996's Port Arthur incident and tell me it hasn't been effective for them.

Certainly not a one size fits all sort of solution but the reason last night's attack shook up so many around Australia is that this type of thing just doesn't happen that often here.


has gun control been "effective" for the 16 murdered Jews?
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annie88 said:

Thank God they have such strict gun laws in Australia. Certainly it could never happen there right liberals?

Oh wait no they don't do any good because bad people and crazy people will find a way to kill. Let me guess it was a no gun zone?

Sadly, there is evil in the world and they're always will be. But I say again, more concealed, and open carry would handle some of this.

Keeping Islam out of western society would be a good idea as well.


Winston Churchill's famous quote:

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last"

meaning that trying to satisfy an aggressor through concessions (appeasement) only delays your inevitable destruction,

as the aggressor will eventually turn on you.

This quote, often used to criticize policies of compromise with hostile forces like Nazi Germany, highlights the futility of appeasement, a lesson Churchill learned firsthand.
 
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