infinity ag said:

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Is anyone surprised?

This is the old Trump we know. He is not known to be classy.

But he is better in taking decisions that are good for the country.

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Agreed. For the most part, he's doing pretty good this term. If he can just get the economy turning around.

It sounds like Nick was living in the guest house. He had worked in the movie industry, and I would imagine knew a lot of the other guests through his parents.

Maybe just a "hey, if you aren't doing anything, wanna come with us?" kind of thing? I don't think it's that odd. Probably just tagged along.

One of the articles I read noted that he had been clean for a bit, but was noticeably erratic at the party.

No Spin Ag said:

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infinity ag said:

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Is anyone surprised?

This is the old Trump we know. He is not known to be classy.

But he is better in taking decisions that are good for the country.

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Agreed. For the most part, he's doing pretty good this term. If he can just get the economy turning around.

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Anecdotal evidence, but I have been surveying the job market in my field since 2024. Earlier, for every job on Linkedin, the applicants would be "over 100". They would not tell you the exact number. Now, I see many which have 30, 40 and 50. So it looks like something is changing. Maybe H1Bs are going back home? Things are shaking out and it is too early to say how things are going.

infinity ag said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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infinity ag said:

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Is anyone surprised?

This is the old Trump we know. He is not known to be classy.

But he is better in taking decisions that are good for the country.

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Agreed. For the most part, he's doing pretty good this term. If he can just get the economy turning around.

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Anecdotal evidence, but I have been surveying the job market in my field since 2024. Earlier, for every job on Linkedin, the applicants would be "over 100". They would not tell you the exact number. Now, I see many which have 30, 40 and 50. So it looks like something is changing. Maybe H1Bs are going back home? Things are shaking out and it is too early to say how things are going.

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H-1Bs are not going back home. I have posted jobs for 2 developers this year, and both times I have gotten over 1,500 applicants, most H-1Bs.

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Anti-taxxer said:

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According to a friend in the Daily Mail, opioids and heroin.

In another article, Nick was describing one of the times he destroyed the guest house while high on meth...

So....sounds like a lot.

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I'm still confused why he was at Conan's party. It doesn't seem like he would be an invited guest of Conan, and it clearly seems that the parents knew he was out of control, so it doesn't seem logical that they would bring him along.

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I read today that they asked Conan if they could bring him along basically to be able to "keep an eye on him", as he had been acting even stranger than the usual.

What now

Nick Reiner ‘stormed off’ after getting into tiff with comedian Bill Hader at Conan O’Brien’s Christmas party https://t.co/23nLMkAClr pic.twitter.com/2EKqei70y3

— New York Post (@nypost) December 16, 2025

Granted this photo was probably cherry-picked by Drudge, but it you want to talk about empty soulless eyes...

Nick's attorney is Alan Jackson, for those who followed the Karen Read saga.

torrid said:

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Granted this photo was probably cherry-picked by Drudge, but it you want to talk about empty soulless eyes...

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You still go to drudge?

Listened to Peirs Morgan show talking about this debating the politics of Trump's tweet about Reiner, and there was a young right-oriented woman on the panel (like late twenties or early thirties) and somebody else listed the run of great movies that he directed in late 80's/early 90's:

Stand By Me
Misery
A Few Good Men
A Princess Bride
When Harry Met Sally

And the woman then replied 'Never heard of them or watched them, well, no I have heard of When Harry Met Sally' but never watched it.'

And the thought that there are people walking around who have never even heard of those movies, much less watched them, makes me feel old.

Though Shame on the that woman's parents not at least exposing her to The Princess Bride!

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Aggie4Christ09 said:

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Pure Evil

The Kraken said:

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Trump weighs in, blames the deaths on TDS

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No, pure evil is Rob's son murdering his parents.

This is in poor taste, ill-timed, and immature, but it's not "pure evil." You leftists are so dramatic.

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Leftists are the ones who got beat up in high school because they were dorks and sensitive. What else would you expect out of imo freaks?

I teach middle school and I've learned that kids don't watch movies or TV anymore. I'll bring up stuff like Napoleon Dynamite, Charlie Brown Christmas, A Christmas Story (which is on tv constantly), and they have never heard of it.

All they do is watch TikTok. I have some Elf references in my Battle of San Jacinto presentation and a handfull of the 150 kids even knew what the movie was.

Reiner was a activist dem. He entered the political arena voluntarily. Harsh words from trump didnt kill him.

What we have learned from history is that a good artist does not equate to a good person.
I wanted Reiner to live long enough to convert to a better self.

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This thread is proof that TDS exists on the right as well as the left. Anybody defending Trump's atrocious comments about someone who was just murdered has a full blown case of TDS. Sad.

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or perhaps we're just able to look past Trump being a narcissistic ******* because he's, by modern standards, a great president?

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Just another Hollywood story of someone who is F Ed up on drugs and has been for years that explodes in an act of rage. Those people seem to all abuse some type of drug throughout their life- after hearing all the problems this guy has had with drug abuse do y'all really doubt he would do something crazy like this? Seems his drug rehab never really worked. All of daddy's money did nothing but aid his drug problems.

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I read today that they asked Conan if they could bring him along basically to be able to "keep an eye on him", as he had been acting even stranger than the usual.

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That was my assumption as well. Which is kind of a whole other level of selfishness.

"Hey do you mind if we bring Nick with us to the party at your home? He hasn't been acting this erratically since that time he destroyed our guest house, and we'd like to bring him along so we can keep an eye on him while we're hob-nobbing with your other guests."

"Sounds great, bring him along!"

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curious what kind of drugs the son was addicted to, cause someone here just recently said porn was worse than heroin.

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Meth and Heroin

since I have never done drugs and not had mental illness-

how do mentally ill / high on drugs people know enough to understand "now I take a knife and I can then kill a human being by slashing their throat"?

if they can still reason and understand concepts such as weapons and death- how is being high or insane a defense to the crime?!

how can John Hinkley be "criminally insane" but still have plotted out how to get a gun, how to track President Reagan, knew he was trying to murder someone. sounds like they still understand what they are doing is wrong.

i don't know, but i think someone who is not sane can negotiate things in their mind and justify things to themselves that sane people would consider very wrong as "right".

drewser95 said:

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Aust Ag said:

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I read today that they asked Conan if they could bring him along basically to be able to "keep an eye on him", as he had been acting even stranger than the usual.

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That was my assumption as well. Which is kind of a whole other level of selfishness.

"Hey do you mind if we bring Nick with us to the party at your home? He hasn't been acting this erratically since that time he destroyed our guest house, and we'd like to bring him along so we can keep an eye on him while we're hob-nobbing with your other guests."

"Sounds great, bring him along!"

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Apparently he got into an argument with Bill Hader while he was there.

Having listened to Conan's podcast for several years, there should be the caveat that his parties sound more like a laidback collection of friends hanging out and talking rather than some giant chaotic ball of drinking and doing drugs and cutting loose. Sort of sounds like they were more scared to leave him alone somewhere than anything, which certainly begs the question of why he isn't in a facility somewhere.

It is depressing to see a some, but certainly not all, posters on this thread who have the mindset of: "Someone was brutally murdered? Let me tell you all the reasons I despise that person." That is a lot of welled-up hate. to have inside you on a day-to-day basis.

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since I have never done drugs and not had mental illness-

how do mentally ill / high on drugs people know enough to understand "now I take a knife and I can then kill a human being by slashing their throat"?

if they can still reason and understand concepts such as weapons and death- how is being high or insane a defense to the crime?!

how can John Hinkley be "criminally insane" but still have plotted out how to get a gun, how to track President Reagan, knew he was trying to murder someone. sounds like they still understand what they are doing is wrong.

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Due (in part) to backlash against the bogus insanity defenses that worked for John Hinckley, Jr. (as well as the infamous "Twinkie defense" from the San Francisco city councilman who murdered Mayor Moscone and Harvey Milk), most of the examples you cite would not be the basis of a valid insanity defense nowadays.

Attempts to escape, conceal the crime, or an understanding that one's actions are illegal are generally enough to meet the definition of legal "sanity". Everyone would recognize that on one level, say, Jeffrey Dahmer was completely out of his gourd; most of us don't kill and eat people not because we are deterred by the law but by why in the hell would you eat someone? Nonetheless, Dahmer was sane in the eyes of the law as regards criminal culpability.

What would rise to the level of being legally insane is a degree of mental illness that makes the person unable to understand that their actions were not legally justifiable.

Example: If a crazy person thinks that someone is implanting cancer causing rays in his brain and attacks that person, then tells the cops it was self defense, that could qualify as legal insanity.

ETA: Almost certainly this will not apply to Reiner's son. He is going to die in prison unless he unalives himself before he gets there.

Just returning the hate back to Reiner. He was the one who spouted it.

I haven't read the entire thread, so maybe someone has already speculated this, but I won't be surprised at all if the son tries to use a version the Menendez brothers' defense - that the parents secretly abused him for decades causing his drug use and ultimately violent, deadly reaction against them.

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I haven't read the entire thread, so maybe someone has already speculated this, but I won't be surprised at all if the son tries to use a version the Menendez brothers' defense - that the parents secretly abused him for decades causing his drug use and ultimately violent, deadly reaction against them.

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I wouldn't find that outside the realm of possibility. A person like Reiner that can allow themselves to be consumed and eat up with hate for a politician that way, well, something is seriously broken with that person.

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Just returning the hate back to Reiner. He was the one who spouted it.

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Seems like you're no better of a person than he was. Bitter and consumed by hate.

flown-the-coop said:

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Just returning the hate back to Reiner. He was the one who spouted it.

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You made my point precisely.

It's OK for me to do Y because they did X first.

Ol_Ag_02 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Just returning the hate back to Reiner. He was the one who spouted it.

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Seems like you're no better of a person than he was. Bitter and consumed by hate.

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Which one of you has had relations with a Trans Woman? Thats how we'll determine who is THE better person.

If neither of you have been enlightened enough to do that then you are both horrible people filled with hate and bitterness.

I'm sure you are thinking this is a ridiculous post and will have no impact on what people think and this is true…just like arguing who or who isn't a "good" person based on trivial opinions that don't matter in the grand scheme of things

CharleyKerfeld said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Just returning the hate back to Reiner. He was the one who spouted it.

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You made my point precisely.

It's OK for me to do Y because they did X first.

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AKA the justification a four-year old uses.

TommyBrady said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Just returning the hate back to Reiner. He was the one who spouted it.

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Seems like you're no better of a person than he was. Bitter and consumed by hate.

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Which one of you has had relations with a Trans Woman? Thats how we'll determine who is THE better person.

If neither of you have been enlightened enough to do that then you are both horrible people filled with hate and bitterness.

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So before your edit I wasn't sure if this was a reference I didn't get, or whether it was just simply a really odd thing to say.


Thanks for settling it for me.

Ol_Ag_02 said:

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Ol_Ag_02 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Just returning the hate back to Reiner. He was the one who spouted it.

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Seems like you're no better of a person than he was. Bitter and consumed by hate.

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Which one of you has had relations with a Trans Woman? Thats how we'll determine who is THE better person.

If neither of you have been enlightened enough to do that then you are both horrible people filled with hate and bitterness.

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So before your edit I wasn't sure if this was a reference I didn't get, or whether it was just simply a really odd thing to say.


Thanks for settling it for me.

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I'm guessing thats a no. Bad person. It's settled.

Hope you can come to grips with the hate and bitterness you feel.