Massie is worse than John McCain

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LMCane said:

Ed Gallrein was a legit war hero in Afghanistan as part of the Navy SEALS

Thomas Massie is a backstabbing leftist anti-semite who cheated on his wife and likely committed crimes which is why he tried to cover it up with an NDA

how is this even a close election?!?!

Ed Gallrein is funded by another country. If the last names were Chinese and not Jewish I'm sure the boomers might have a problem. Enough boomers will watch fox news and scroll social media to be bought by Addleson just like Trump. The same people that wanted to release the Epstein files will now vote for a candidate funded by the people who want them out of the news. This will show exactly how much power aipac and the Epstein class truly hold. Next level propaganda this go round.
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I'll never hate a man for standing on his values/beliefs.

And I've only voted republican as a young adult, but I don't align with everything the party is supporting right now.
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No boomer is making the kiddos buy houses they cannot afford and drive the latest fanciest of fancy cars.

Plenty of affordable housing out there, the youngins just won't give it a chance. Large swaths of New Orleans have empty residences. Plenty of private schools for the kids and great food & nightlife. Nope, they want the newest subdivision with the brand new house with all the upgrades and schools have to be well funded and they want the investing roads and bike trails and places to show off their BMW X7s.

The affordability crisis of Gen Z is of their own making.
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Yes. Or he can give back 10% of his votes and campaign money for those 10% he chose Side D.

This isn't a trick question. The Dems vote in lock step (Fetterman anomaly aside) and have for many cycles now. And they are experts at wedge issues to split the Rs.

And the GOP was feckless and played right into.

Trump understands the game and the stakes. If Massie thinks his ideas are so great, run as an I or L. But he's taking up room we cannot afford.
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flown-the-coop said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

It's been really eye opening to me on how the GOP have turned on Massie. When all he's doing mostly is standing firm on his campaign promises.

Especially how people went after him for wanting everything released from the Epstein files, and now he's the bad guy. I hope he keeps his seat

He's not a bad guy for being a dolt on Epstein. He's a bad guy because he is supposedly part of the R party but consistently votes with Ds as a "protest" because his libertarian tantrums are not adopted by the wider R party.

He's an antagonist. A waste of space that costs the good guys votes and it's time for him to depart.

Epstein has zero to do with it.


He's always been that guy and yet, he's never had all the Israel first money leveled against to prop up an empty suit.

You do the math. This has everything to do with Epstein and Israel.
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flown-the-coop said:

Yes. Or he can give back 10% of his votes and campaign money for those 10% he chose Side D.

This isn't a trick question. The Dems vote in lock step (Fetterman anomaly aside) and have for many cycles now. And they are experts at wedge issues to split the Rs.

And the GOP was feckless and played right into.

Trump understands the game and the stakes. If Massie thinks his ideas are so great, run as an I or L. But he's taking up room we cannot afford.
OR the GOP can actually do what they promised and campaigned on.

The democrats were supposed to be the party of the neocons, now we're going to war with Iran. America first but now we're getting pulled into a war by Israel. We were supposed to cut the deficit now we're adding to it. We were supposed to bring the gas prices and groceries down, now they're going up.

I can't blame Massie for standing on what he campaigned on.
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FWTXAg said:

We have a Mossad plant on TexAgs.

I think 2
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2 mossad
4 Hamas lovers
5 stormfront dorks

At least two are on the side of good!


I'm Gipper
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It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.
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"Oh you criticized the Israeli government? You must hate jews"

means about as much as

"Oh you criticized the Democrats? You must be racist"

We're not falling for this liberal schtick from 2015. Although its not surprising that the neocons are stuck in the past lol
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flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.

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flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?
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flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?


So, following your logic, any criticism of this particular foreign country is problematic or racist? But I guess it's ok to criticize the actions of other countries?

Does criticism of the DPRK mean one is anti-Korean?

Take a hike.

And, since you're unaware, a huge number is Israelis are, in fact, atheists. Such as the original Zionists who started the whole movement.
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Se post above. The radiance doesn't work.

But I will ask the same, do you believe it's Muslims, atheists, and Christians that are supposedly pulling all these strings on American actions?

I would be very curious to see the evidence of that.

Again, I don't think it's anti-Semitic but it's hard not to see it as anti-Zionist.

BTW being anti-Zionist is a perfectly acceptable position for many. The concept that the Jews are not entitled to control the "holy land" as Jews define it. There have been many discussions and wars and violence over this.

But people should understand the complications of being anti-zionists particularly with the influencers who are anti-Semitic working hard to save the Islamic Republic of Iran.
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Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?


So, following your logic, any criticism of this particular foreign country is problematic or racist? But I guess it's ok to criticize the actions of other countries?

Does criticism of the DPRK mean one is anti-Korean?

Take a hike.

And, since you're unaware, a huge number is Israelis are, in fact, atheists. Such as the original Zionists who started the whole movement.

So atheists are behind all this. Got it.

BTW, it doesn't help your case. There were atheist and agnostics including several well known names like the airport namesake. But they were Jewish. There passion was driven by their consideration of being an ethnic jew vs a religious Jew. See Hollywood for examples.
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flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?


What a dumb take. You can criticize individuals who happen to be Jewish without "intending to implicate Jews". If I criticize Gallrein's biggest donor for flying one of our biggest traitors to Israel to be met by a smiling Netanyahu, am I being anti semitic?

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flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?


So, following your logic, any criticism of this particular foreign country is problematic or racist? But I guess it's ok to criticize the actions of other countries?

Does criticism of the DPRK mean one is anti-Korean?

Take a hike.

And, since you're unaware, a huge number is Israelis are, in fact, atheists. Such as the original Zionists who started the whole movement.

So atheists are behind all this. Got it.


You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that Israel was funded by and is run by sincere Old Testament believing Jews.

Or you can read the original Zionist literature and notice that Tel Aviv is known for having the biggest pride parades in the world.

Your choice.
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Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?


So, following your logic, any criticism of this particular foreign country is problematic or racist? But I guess it's ok to criticize the actions of other countries?

Does criticism of the DPRK mean one is anti-Korean?

Take a hike.

And, since you're unaware, a huge number is Israelis are, in fact, atheists. Such as the original Zionists who started the whole movement.

So atheists are behind all this. Got it.


You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that Israel was funded by and is run by sincere Old Testament believing Jews.

Or you can read the original Zionist literature and notice that Tel Aviv is known for having the biggest pride parades in the world.

Your choice.

So if one does not worship as a Jew one is not a Jew?

I don't think you thought this through.
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flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?


So, following your logic, any criticism of this particular foreign country is problematic or racist? But I guess it's ok to criticize the actions of other countries?

Does criticism of the DPRK mean one is anti-Korean?

Take a hike.

And, since you're unaware, a huge number is Israelis are, in fact, atheists. Such as the original Zionists who started the whole movement.

So atheists are behind all this. Got it.


You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that Israel was funded by and is run by sincere Old Testament believing Jews.

Or you can read the original Zionist literature and notice that Tel Aviv is known for having the biggest pride parades in the world.

Your choice.

So if one does not worship as a Jew one is not a Jew?

I don't think you thought this through.


You're the confused one.

Jews can be atheists and many of them are atheists.

You're the one that quipped, "So atheists started all of this?"
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Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?


So, following your logic, any criticism of this particular foreign country is problematic or racist? But I guess it's ok to criticize the actions of other countries?

Does criticism of the DPRK mean one is anti-Korean?

Take a hike.

And, since you're unaware, a huge number is Israelis are, in fact, atheists. Such as the original Zionists who started the whole movement.

So atheists are behind all this. Got it.


You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that Israel was funded by and is run by sincere Old Testament believing Jews.

Or you can read the original Zionist literature and notice that Tel Aviv is known for having the biggest pride parades in the world.

Your choice.

So if one does not worship as a Jew one is not a Jew?

I don't think you thought this through.


You're the confused one.

Jews can be atheists and many of them are atheists.

You're the one that quipped, "So atheists started all of this?"

Well, do you think atheists are behind this?

Doesn't change trying to say one can be against Israel but not antisemitic. That's walking a pretty fine line. If one is an ethnic Jew and you are saying they are manipulating the US, then how do you separate the Israel from the Jew? Antisemitism is not a religious construct, it refers to ethnic and religious alike.

Let me help you with the point that was being made. When one says they can be anti Israel but not anti semitic, are they implying it's non-Jews behind it? Whether they be ethnic, devout, non practicing or otherwise?
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flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?


So, following your logic, any criticism of this particular foreign country is problematic or racist? But I guess it's ok to criticize the actions of other countries?

Does criticism of the DPRK mean one is anti-Korean?

Take a hike.

And, since you're unaware, a huge number is Israelis are, in fact, atheists. Such as the original Zionists who started the whole movement.

So atheists are behind all this. Got it.


You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that Israel was funded by and is run by sincere Old Testament believing Jews.

Or you can read the original Zionist literature and notice that Tel Aviv is known for having the biggest pride parades in the world.

Your choice.

So if one does not worship as a Jew one is not a Jew?

I don't think you thought this through.


You're the confused one.

Jews can be atheists and many of them are atheists.

You're the one that quipped, "So atheists started all of this?"

Well, do you think atheists are behind this?

Doesn't change trying to say one can be against Israel but not antisemitic. That's walking a pretty fine line. If one is an ethnic Jew and you are saying they are manipulating the US, then how do you separate the Israel from the Jew? Antisemitism is not a religious construct, it refers to ethnic and religious alike.


Think about this REALLY hard, but if you lived in 1942 could you be opposed to the actions of the Japanese government but not be "anti Japanese people"?

I know it's hard. But think about it for a few minutes…
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Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?


So, following your logic, any criticism of this particular foreign country is problematic or racist? But I guess it's ok to criticize the actions of other countries?

Does criticism of the DPRK mean one is anti-Korean?

Take a hike.

And, since you're unaware, a huge number is Israelis are, in fact, atheists. Such as the original Zionists who started the whole movement.

So atheists are behind all this. Got it.


You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that Israel was funded by and is run by sincere Old Testament believing Jews.

Or you can read the original Zionist literature and notice that Tel Aviv is known for having the biggest pride parades in the world.

Your choice.

So if one does not worship as a Jew one is not a Jew?

I don't think you thought this through.


You're the confused one.

Jews can be atheists and many of them are atheists.

You're the one that quipped, "So atheists started all of this?"

Well, do you think atheists are behind this?

Doesn't change trying to say one can be against Israel but not antisemitic. That's walking a pretty fine line. If one is an ethnic Jew and you are saying they are manipulating the US, then how do you separate the Israel from the Jew? Antisemitism is not a religious construct, it refers to ethnic and religious alike.


Think about this REALLY hard, but if you lived in 1942 could you be opposed to the actions of the Japanese government but not be "anti Japanese people"?

I know it's hard. But think about it for a few minutes…

It's not me who doesn't understand the highly unique nature of the nation of Israel. The nation of Israel exists today for the Jewish people and for NO OTHER REASON. If one is against Israel's existence, one is certainly disregarding Jews and Zionism.

Japan's a bad example for you. The Emperor considered himself divine and as such he 100% dictated all things Japan and Japanese people. It would be hard to reconcile being anti emperor and pro Japan at that time. It likely meant certain painful death.
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flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?


So, following your logic, any criticism of this particular foreign country is problematic or racist? But I guess it's ok to criticize the actions of other countries?

Does criticism of the DPRK mean one is anti-Korean?

Take a hike.

And, since you're unaware, a huge number is Israelis are, in fact, atheists. Such as the original Zionists who started the whole movement.

So atheists are behind all this. Got it.


You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that Israel was funded by and is run by sincere Old Testament believing Jews.

Or you can read the original Zionist literature and notice that Tel Aviv is known for having the biggest pride parades in the world.

Your choice.

So if one does not worship as a Jew one is not a Jew?

I don't think you thought this through.


You're the confused one.

Jews can be atheists and many of them are atheists.

You're the one that quipped, "So atheists started all of this?"

Well, do you think atheists are behind this?

Doesn't change trying to say one can be against Israel but not antisemitic. That's walking a pretty fine line. If one is an ethnic Jew and you are saying they are manipulating the US, then how do you separate the Israel from the Jew? Antisemitism is not a religious construct, it refers to ethnic and religious alike.


Think about this REALLY hard, but if you lived in 1942 could you be opposed to the actions of the Japanese government but not be "anti Japanese people"?

I know it's hard. But think about it for a few minutes…

It's not me who doesn't understand the highly unique nature of the nation of Israel. The nation of Israel exists today for the Jewish people and for NO OTHER REASON. If one is against Israel's existence, one is certainly disregarding Jews and Zionism.

Japan's a bad example for you. The Emperor considered himself divine and as such he 100% dictated all things Japan and Japanese people. It would be hard to reconcile being anti emperor and pro Japan at that time. It likely meant certain painful death.


I was born in Japan and lived there for many years. I know all about the Japanese.

Israel is a modern nation state and I am an American. As an American I can criticize any foreign country. Israel doesn't get a pass because it's supposed to be an ethno-state for Jewish persons.

That's not walking a "fine line" it's being consistent.
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flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?


So, following your logic, any criticism of this particular foreign country is problematic or racist? But I guess it's ok to criticize the actions of other countries?

Does criticism of the DPRK mean one is anti-Korean?

Take a hike.

And, since you're unaware, a huge number is Israelis are, in fact, atheists. Such as the original Zionists who started the whole movement.

So atheists are behind all this. Got it.


You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that Israel was funded by and is run by sincere Old Testament believing Jews.

Or you can read the original Zionist literature and notice that Tel Aviv is known for having the biggest pride parades in the world.

Your choice.

So if one does not worship as a Jew one is not a Jew?

I don't think you thought this through.


You're the confused one.

Jews can be atheists and many of them are atheists.

You're the one that quipped, "So atheists started all of this?"

Well, do you think atheists are behind this?

Doesn't change trying to say one can be against Israel but not antisemitic. That's walking a pretty fine line. If one is an ethnic Jew and you are saying they are manipulating the US, then how do you separate the Israel from the Jew? Antisemitism is not a religious construct, it refers to ethnic and religious alike.


Think about this REALLY hard, but if you lived in 1942 could you be opposed to the actions of the Japanese government but not be "anti Japanese people"?

I know it's hard. But think about it for a few minutes…

It's not me who doesn't understand the highly unique nature of the nation of Israel. The nation of Israel exists today for the Jewish people and for NO OTHER REASON. If one is against Israel's existence, one is certainly disregarding Jews and Zionism.

Japan's a bad example for you. The Emperor considered himself divine and as such he 100% dictated all things Japan and Japanese people. It would be hard to reconcile being anti emperor and pro Japan at that time. It likely meant certain painful death.
So you can't criticize the government of Israel without being anti Jewish??
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Have you seen their flag perhaps?

It is in their Declaration of Independence that they are a Jewish state. In 2018 they reaffirmed that they are the national homeland for the Jewish people.

It's a matter of courtesy they let anyone else habituate there.

Do people think Israel was just like any other country but with more Jews?

Islamic republics like Iran are the Muslim version of Israel, just not as complex as Israel.

Being Muslim is a religious belief not an ethnicity, race, whatevs. Jews have, for better or worse, created a whole different anime. Race, ethnic, believer, orthodox, observant… all muddle it. For example, as has been discussed you can indeed have an atheist Jew. You cannot have an atheist Muslim or atheist Christian.

That being said, I do not believe those who have criticisms of Israel should be castigated as some sort of scum antisemite and have stones cast their way. Quite the opposite, I think one needs to consider what they are criticizing and how they are doing it as it's a damn near impossible line to thread.

But by the definitions and understanding of the terms being against Israel is antizionist and anti semitic.
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Hopefully Massie is gone in the primary next week.

He can move to Puerto Rico as well, for all I care.

Get rid of dirt bags in the GOP on the hill. Cornyn, Tillis outbound this cycle on the senate side.
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"I think one needs to consider what they are criticizing and how they are doing it as it's a damn near impossible line to thread.

But by the definitions and understanding of the terms being against Israel is antizionist and anti semitic."

I refuse their definitions and "rules" and so should everyone else.

Israel is a country just like Japan, Belgium, Canada, Lebanon, Mexico etc.

It's a modern nation state.

They're meant to be an ethno-state for the Jewish people. Ok. That's not very special actually. Japan is an ethno-state for the Japanese.

There's nothing magical about Israel. When it's on the right side of a dispute, I'll defend them. When they're clearly in the wrong, I'll criticize them.

American politicians are massively compromised by their foreign lobby which uniquely has its own set of rules as opposed to other countries, as that's a huge problem.

They should be an ally on matters that benefit America but not a country that were magically beholden to support on every conceivable matter.
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nortex97 said:

Hopefully Massie is gone in the primary next week.

He can move to Puerto Rico as well, for all I care.

Get rid of dirt bags in the GOP on the hill. Cornyn, Tillis outbound this cycle on the senate side.






You"re about a day behind on the news on this
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Please tell me again how this is the "conservative" candidate

who took a girlfriend to an African safari a few weeks after his wife died

who forced her into an NDA after getting her a job on Capitol Hill

who is the most anti-Israel member of the GOP since MTG was kicked to the curb

who happily stands with the most left wing socialist in Congress Ro Khanna

who votes against MAGA and Trump more than any other RINO

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Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

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It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?


So, following your logic, any criticism of this particular foreign country is problematic or racist? But I guess it's ok to criticize the actions of other countries?

Does criticism of the DPRK mean one is anti-Korean?

Take a hike.

And, since you're unaware, a huge number is Israelis are, in fact, atheists. Such as the original Zionists who started the whole movement.

So atheists are behind all this. Got it.


You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that Israel was funded by and is run by sincere Old Testament believing Jews.

Or you can read the original Zionist literature and notice that Tel Aviv is known for having the biggest pride parades in the world.

Your choice.

So if one does not worship as a Jew one is not a Jew?

I don't think you thought this through.


You're the confused one.

Jews can be atheists and many of them are atheists.

You're the one that quipped, "So atheists started all of this?"

Well, do you think atheists are behind this?

Doesn't change trying to say one can be against Israel but not antisemitic. That's walking a pretty fine line. If one is an ethnic Jew and you are saying they are manipulating the US, then how do you separate the Israel from the Jew? Antisemitism is not a religious construct, it refers to ethnic and religious alike.


Think about this REALLY hard, but if you lived in 1942 could you be opposed to the actions of the Japanese government but not be "anti Japanese people"?

I know it's hard. But think about it for a few minutes…

It's not me who doesn't understand the highly unique nature of the nation of Israel. The nation of Israel exists today for the Jewish people and for NO OTHER REASON. If one is against Israel's existence, one is certainly disregarding Jews and Zionism.

Japan's a bad example for you. The Emperor considered himself divine and as such he 100% dictated all things Japan and Japanese people. It would be hard to reconcile being anti emperor and pro Japan at that time. It likely meant certain painful death.


I was born in Japan and lived there for many years. I know all about the Japanese.

Israel is a modern nation state and I am an American. As an American I can criticize any foreign country. Israel doesn't get a pass because it's supposed to be an ethno-state for Jewish persons.

That's not walking a "fine line" it's being consistent.


it will be a relieft after we kicked MTG and Tucker Qatarlson and Nazi Candace Owens out of the party- to now kick out Massie

I really don't need to read another 1000 posts from anti-Israel Christians explaining what Zionism is and how they aren't anti-semites.
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LMCane said:

Please tell me again how this is the "conservative" candidate

who took a girlfriend to an African safari a few weeks after his wife died

who forced her into an NDA after getting her a job on Capitol Hill

who is the most anti-Israel member of the GOP since MTG was kicked to the curb

who happily stands with the most left wing socialist in Congress Ro Khanna

who votes against MAGA and Trump more than any other RINO




You keep posting falsehoods in bold as if you can force it to be true that way. Massie had nothing to do with the NDA. You're falling for the same nonsense E Jean Carroll wanted us to believe.

Posting this again to shoo you away.

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LMCane said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

Seamaster said:

flown-the-coop said:

It all boils down to the Jews again. It's either Hitler or the Jews.

I would like to get back to cowboys v Indians or blaming the Russians.


Follow the money. In this case it really is Israel (not the "Jews"). A lot of Jews don't support Israel's actions either.

But there are billionaires that do and they're the ones pouring millions into PACs to primary Massie.



So you think it's the atheists and Muslims in Israel that are leading the effort to manipulate Trump into action on Iran?

No, you don't get to hide behind "I said Israel not the Jews". It's not antisemitic but it borders on anti-Zionist.

And those billionaires are Jews, no? So how can you say "it's Israel" without intending to implicate Jews?


So, following your logic, any criticism of this particular foreign country is problematic or racist? But I guess it's ok to criticize the actions of other countries?

Does criticism of the DPRK mean one is anti-Korean?

Take a hike.

And, since you're unaware, a huge number is Israelis are, in fact, atheists. Such as the original Zionists who started the whole movement.

So atheists are behind all this. Got it.


You can bury your head in the sand and pretend that Israel was funded by and is run by sincere Old Testament believing Jews.

Or you can read the original Zionist literature and notice that Tel Aviv is known for having the biggest pride parades in the world.

Your choice.

So if one does not worship as a Jew one is not a Jew?

I don't think you thought this through.


You're the confused one.

Jews can be atheists and many of them are atheists.

You're the one that quipped, "So atheists started all of this?"

Well, do you think atheists are behind this?

Doesn't change trying to say one can be against Israel but not antisemitic. That's walking a pretty fine line. If one is an ethnic Jew and you are saying they are manipulating the US, then how do you separate the Israel from the Jew? Antisemitism is not a religious construct, it refers to ethnic and religious alike.


Think about this REALLY hard, but if you lived in 1942 could you be opposed to the actions of the Japanese government but not be "anti Japanese people"?

I know it's hard. But think about it for a few minutes…

It's not me who doesn't understand the highly unique nature of the nation of Israel. The nation of Israel exists today for the Jewish people and for NO OTHER REASON. If one is against Israel's existence, one is certainly disregarding Jews and Zionism.

Japan's a bad example for you. The Emperor considered himself divine and as such he 100% dictated all things Japan and Japanese people. It would be hard to reconcile being anti emperor and pro Japan at that time. It likely meant certain painful death.


I was born in Japan and lived there for many years. I know all about the Japanese.

Israel is a modern nation state and I am an American. As an American I can criticize any foreign country. Israel doesn't get a pass because it's supposed to be an ethno-state for Jewish persons.

That's not walking a "fine line" it's being consistent.


it will be a relieft after we kicked MTG and Tucker Qatarlson and Nazi Candace Owens out of the party- to now kick out Massie

I really don't need to read another 1000 posts from anti-Israel Christians explaining what Zionism is and how they aren't anti-semites.


You're free to go somewhere else if you want to post in an echo chamber. You don't need to read anything here. I was under the impression this board was for political discussions and not bootlicking a foreign country.
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How convenient….
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Remind me again who is the RINO?

 
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