Political fallout and arguments regarding the US-Israeli action against Iran 022824

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TexAgBolter said:

Schiff pulled offsides by Maher.

Disagree with Maher ideologically, but the dude knows dumb when he sees it.




This is great. Tons of hypocrisy on the left. Sadly, a lot on the right too.

If Trump doesn't find an off ramp in next couple months and secure tanker loads of oil, its gonna age like Bush's Iraq.

Trump needs to show deposit reciepts for both Venezuela and Iran before he leaves office. Do that, and he secures legendary status as GOAT. Otherwise, he's just another DC snake oil salesman running up the debt for our grandkids.....And the right won't care bc he is team elephant.
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BBC, any flavor, all bs propaganda of some sort.
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Mr. President, Nato is the entity you need to attack and get us out of now.
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Our so called allies aren't serious about doing anything:

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How humiliating, and even worse, how European.

Just as Ursula von der Leyen called an emergency meeting two days after Operation Epic Fury began because she didn't want to disturb the weekend plans of the European Council, the Telegraph reports that the HMS Dragon's deployment to Cyprus to defend Britain's airbase is delayed because Keir Starmer wants to ensure that the 9-5 workday at the drydock preparing the ship isn't disturbed.



https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/03/07/hms-dragon-delayed-because-dry-dock-works-only-9-5-n3812639
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In fairness, the UK is close to being an Islamic state.
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Queso1 said:

This whole situation is insane. They try to convince us to attack Iran. Why? When anyone says it's due to Israeli influence on our government, they're labeled antisemitic. Netanyahu has been in our White House 7 times in a calendar year. He's addressed our Congress. It's ludicrous.

Iran has been on the verge of nuclear weapon for 30 years. I thought we destroyed their nuclear capabilities in the great strike last year.

They try to sell us that the Iranian people are being oppressed. So? People are oppressed everywhere but we don't involve ourselves. We are told we will bring democracy to the region (we don't even follow western democratic values here anymore). These people can't handle democracy.

There's no plan. Just like in Iraq. What's going to happen when the regime falls? The refugees will go to Europe and here.

And like any criticism of policy on this board one must express their allegiance to Trump lest be called TDS or a leftist.

I'm sick of the wars. I'm sick of the corruption. I voted Trump every time to clean this stuff. But I'm more confident than ever that they're all compromised.

I'm sick of our leaders being elected on a position and then completely deviating. The whole thing makes me sick as ****.

I agree with you on a lot of this. I'm not really sure what is going on but I just hope it doesn't get out of control. It's a mess.
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Yeah, them almost having nukes thanks to Hussein and Biden giving them billions so they could build nukes…not a mess at all.
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This thread could be on point

Keep an eye on Kharg Island

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I have said for years and years to blockade Kharg. Nothing leaves that gets very far.
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There's a huge cost of taking that many barrels off the market. A president that authorizes that will need a big pair of grapefruits
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it assumes trump is evil. they cannot see outside the brainwashing no matter what
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Yeah, them almost having nukes thanks to Hussein and Biden giving them billions so they could build nukes…not a mess at all.

I just hope they know what they are doing. I really do not want to see WW3.
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China: Let oil flow, *******s.
Russia: Sounds like a you problem.
Middle East: The **** you attacking us for?

The U.S. and Israel by this action stop Iranian flow of oil to China, reduces flow of oil out of the Middle East to China, dwindles China's oil reserves as a consequence, and forestalls the possibility of China invading Taiwan.
U.S. ramps up munitions production 4x to make clear to China "**** around and find out."

This entire action has made clear that Chinese technology is inferior to U.S. technology. Total destruction of Iran's anti-aircraft capability in a week. Flying 60 year old bombers over Iran and refueling in their airspace like they're the U.S.'s *****.

Iran is not devolving into WW3, a Chinese invasion into Taiwan absolutely could. This probably reduces the likelihood of that in the near term and gives the U.S. more time to prepare.


Anyone saying this is purely an Israeli war is not paying attention to everything.

In 10 years China's population advantage is greatly diminished both from a demographic standpoint and a form of manufacturing standpoint (automation takes over). War becomes even more a purely economic capacity calculation.
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All things that could lead to a wider conflict
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Screenshot in case she's smart enough to delete. Unlikely.

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Maybe, seems unlikely with Iran as the central figure. They're an "ally" of convenience to the major players. Not an ideological ally. China is more likely to tell Iran to stop ****ing around than they are to involve themselves in their bull*****
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Correct. Note that China just placed a huge Boeing order last week and still wants a visit from POTUS.
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That visit has been planned for a long time. There was a great article in The Diplomat online magazine about Chinese thoughts on a meeting and how Chinese planning doesn't necessarily react the same as western planning when it comes to these sorts of shock events. China is not going to cancel something like that.

Trump likely wants the conflict wrapped up before the meeting though.
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Thx, that's a pretty good site/magazine. I agree.
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Queso1 said:

In fairness, the UK is close to being an Islamic state.

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hph6203 said:

China: Let oil flow, *******s.
Russia: Sounds like a you problem.
Middle East: The **** you attacking us for?

The U.S. and Israel by this action stop Iranian flow of oil to China, reduces flow of oil out of the Middle East to China, dwindles China's oil reserves as a consequence, and forestalls the possibility of China invading Taiwan.
U.S. ramps up munitions production 4x to make clear to China "**** around and find out."

This entire action has made clear that Chinese technology is inferior to U.S. technology. Total destruction of Iran's anti-aircraft capability in a week. Flying 60 year old bombers over Iran and refueling in their airspace like they're the U.S.'s *****.

Iran is not devolving into WW3, a Chinese invasion into Taiwan absolutely could. This probably reduces the likelihood of that in the near term and gives the U.S. more time to prepare.


Anyone saying this is purely an Israeli war is not paying attention to everything.

In 10 years China's population advantage is greatly diminished both from a demographic standpoint and a form of manufacturing standpoint (automation takes over). War becomes even more a purely economic capacity calculation.


Yep, this goes back to the alignment and relationships between VZ, Iran, Russia/China, and Cuba. There is a common thread amongst them and Trump decided to unravel it starting with VZ. So many birds with few stones here.
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nortex97 said:

Thx, that's a pretty good site/magazine. I agree.


Nice site. Bookmarking for the rotation.
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I really wonder if any of this craziness in the Middle East towards the US would have ever happened if Israel was never formed.
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https://www.trumpstore.com


I wish this was AI generated.....doesn't appear to be.
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nortex97 said:

Thx, that's a pretty good site/magazine. I agree.

Thanks for posting the link.

Time to familiarize myself with the site.
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Meh. Hard for me to get worked up over that one. FNC is still hundreds if not thousands of examples behind CNN and MSNBC on misleading footage and outright lies.

Post both sides meme here.
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TrumpsBarber said:

Queso1 said:

In fairness, the UK is close to being an Islamic state.



I did not have "Muslims supporting America" on my Bingo card for this year.

As for France and the UK, this isn't a surprise. They're hedging their bets that the Dems win everything in November and, of course, that Trump will no longer be the president in a few years, so pissing him off isn't as consequential as it would be if this were his first term.
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The UAE just attacked Iran directly (fighter bomber) for the first time ever. Kuwait won't do it but they did just cut oil production massively (if not completely) so it's costing them a literal fortune in cash flow.

Hopefully once this is over, we can have a real conversation about ending our participation in the farce that is Nato.
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docb said:

Queso1 said:

This whole situation is insane. They try to convince us to attack Iran. Why? When anyone says it's due to Israeli influence on our government, they're labeled antisemitic. Netanyahu has been in our White House 7 times in a calendar year. He's addressed our Congress. It's ludicrous.

Iran has been on the verge of nuclear weapon for 30 years. I thought we destroyed their nuclear capabilities in the great strike last year.

They try to sell us that the Iranian people are being oppressed. So? People are oppressed everywhere but we don't involve ourselves. We are told we will bring democracy to the region (we don't even follow western democratic values here anymore). These people can't handle democracy.

There's no plan. Just like in Iraq. What's going to happen when the regime falls? The refugees will go to Europe and here.

And like any criticism of policy on this board one must express their allegiance to Trump lest be called TDS or a leftist.

I'm sick of the wars. I'm sick of the corruption. I voted Trump every time to clean this stuff. But I'm more confident than ever that they're all compromised.

I'm sick of our leaders being elected on a position and then completely deviating. The whole thing makes me sick as ****.

I agree with you on a lot of this. I'm not really sure what is going on but I just hope it doesn't get out of control. It's a mess.

They can do all this secret spy stuff. Have moles inside the Iranian government but couldn't control or notice 4,000 hamas fighters gathering in the concentration camp that is Gaza? Most secure border in the world that all Americans wanted. Palestinians some of the poorest in the world Israel has thousands of paid intelligence assets in Gaza yet no one came forward with that intel. Oct 7th is hard to believe...not that it happen but that Israel didn't let it happen.
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Are people really shocked by bone spurs?

"He is a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured,"

Former Trump aides also alleged that he did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees, saying, "it doesn't look good for me."

In 2017, he told the widow of a slain soldier that he "knew what he signed up for," according to a Florida congresswoman who heard the call.

Oh and then there was the whole Lord Farquaad quote that kicked off this whole mess.



This dude has no empathy for the people who sign up to serve our country and he shows it all the time.
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Oh no! Belgium isn't going to share weapons and soldiers!!!!

Belgium. lol.
 
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