WTI Oil at $109/$110 a barrel--Sun Evening

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flown-the-coop said:

Dan Scott said:



$200 / barrel oil, $15 / gal gasoline, lines at the gas station, rationing… that is an energy crisis.

A few weeks of $100 oil and a bit of pain at the pump, though less than under Biden, is NOT an energy crisis.


Worth it to free the Iranians.
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Dan Scott said:

Straight from the source.



behind a paywall cant verify.
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I can't tell if yall messing with me
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Dan Scott said:



So now it's an energy crisis? Not 4 years ago?

What, pray tell, was different back then?

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BadMoonRisin said:

Dan Scott said:



So now it's an energy crisis? Not 4 years ago?

What, pray tell, was different back then?





The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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BigRobSA said:

flown-the-coop said:

No, but it's not a "energy crisis"…

"an energy crisis"

You heathen miscreant!
BigRob, how did the AI thread miss your incredible sense of punctuation, grammar and spelling?

Appreciate ya!
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No Spin Ag said:

Queso1 said:

But can we practically just up and leave? This will destabilize the region. Everyone sees videos of celebrating Iranians, but what percentage of the people is that? And, do they care about "freedom" as much as the Islamists care about their religion? This could easily turn into a cluster that affects us for 50 years.


Hence why just bombing their military into oblivion won't change things permanently, culturally, etc.

And if they weren't a threat to us or the world since we were told we took out all of their nukes last summer, then what was the point of this?

Some would say because Israel led us into it. I tend to believe Trump that it was to do a regime change to take the country back to where it was when the culture was closer to the west that it has been in almost fifty years.
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flown-the-coop said:

BigRobSA said:

flown-the-coop said:

No, but it's not a "energy crisis"…

"an energy crisis"

You heathen miscreant!

BigRob, how did the AI thread miss your incredible sense of punctuation, grammar and spelling?

Appreciate ya!

AI is a known racist. Duh!
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Logos Stick said:

FlyRod said:

FlyRod said:

Chatter from oil folks I'm hearing is $156 by June.
That's the summer floor (projected) not ceiling. Well this thread can and should stay alive just to check the numbers.



March 16 (Current)
$94.72

March 13
$96.84

March 12
$94.43

March 11
$86.07

March 10
$82.10

March 09
$94.77

March 06 (Last Friday)
$90.90
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FlyRod said:

Chatter from oil folks I'm hearing is $156 by June. That's the summer floor (projected) not ceiling. Well this thread can and should stay alive just to check the numbers.


Which leftist board says this? Reddit? Bluesky?
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According to Google Gemini to check the math:

Fly Rod's prediction is only incorrect and off by 65.96%

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There was a new story this morning where it was said that consumer prices might go up because of increased oil prices.

Is it a possibility that companies will have their costs increase so much that they'd need to do this?

If companies start talking about that, hopefully Trump comes in and tells them to swallow the costs and not pass them on to the consumer.
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No Spin Ag said:

There was a new story this morning where it was said that consumer prices might go up because of increased oil prices.

It will increase freight costs. Trucking and shipping companies will pass those along in a heartbeat.

Even if the "fuel surcharge" is said to be temporary, it will never go away. I see it with FedEx and UPS every time diesel prices go up.
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No Spin Ag said:

There was a new story this morning where it was said that consumer prices might go up because of increased oil prices.

Is it a possibility that companies will have their costs increase so much that they'd need to do this?

If companies start talking about that, hopefully Trump comes in and tells them to swallow the costs and not pass them on to the consumer.

Fuel costs are a huge factor for most all companies in America as we distribute goods all across the US versus any sort of localized sourcing for many products.

We already see our ready mix suppliers and lumber companies sodomizing us with fuel surcharges at any opportunity. For the average consumer, companies like Coca-Cola and Dr Pepper get hit with higher costs for PET bottles, electricity to run the lines, deliveries of other ingredients and source materials, then higher costs getting it into the stores so you can enjoy cold, refreshing fizzy water in a can / bottle.

I suspect these articles are not meant to to inform the public about these costs but instead as a way for article writer to stoke anti-war rhetoric.

So yes this increases costs, it should be somewhat temporary, and long term energy independence helps solve these sort of issues by protecting our Country from international bad actors.
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flown-the-coop said:

No Spin Ag said:

There was a new story this morning where it was said that consumer prices might go up because of increased oil prices.

Is it a possibility that companies will have their costs increase so much that they'd need to do this?

If companies start talking about that, hopefully Trump comes in and tells them to swallow the costs and not pass them on to the consumer.

Fuel costs are a huge factor for most all companies in America as we distribute goods all across the US versus any sort of localized sourcing for many products.

We already see our ready mix suppliers and lumber companies sodomizing us with fuel surcharges at any opportunity. For the average consumer, companies like Coca-Cola and Dr Pepper get hit with higher costs for PET bottles, electricity to run the lines, deliveries of other ingredients and source materials, then higher costs getting it into the stores so you can enjoy cold, refreshing fizzy water in a can / bottle.

I suspect these articles are not meant to to inform the public about these costs but instead as a way for article writer to stoke anti-war rhetoric.

So yes this increases costs, it should be somewhat temporary, and long term energy independence helps solve these sort of issues by protecting our Country from international bad actors.


Screw them and their anti-war, this one is necessary, unlike Iraq.

Hopefully you're right in the the price increases for goods if as temporary as it'll be at the pump.

I'm still pissed that prices never went back down after they were increased during covid. But, I'll digress.
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Rapier108 said:

No Spin Ag said:

There was a new story this morning where it was said that consumer prices might go up because of increased oil prices.

It will increase freight costs. Trucking and shipping companies will pass those along in a heartbeat.

Even if the "fuel surcharge" is said to be temporary, it will never go away. I see it with FedEx and UPS every time diesel prices go up.


Because, of course.
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A personal benefit from this is I can finally sell off my $USO investment at a profit and get it out of my portfolio. That was such a stupid buy long ago.
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No Spin Ag said:

There was a new story this morning where it was said that consumer prices might go up because of increased oil prices.

Is it a possibility that companies will have their costs increase so much that they'd need to do this?

If companies start talking about that, hopefully Trump comes in and tells them to swallow the costs and not pass them on to the consumer.


I guarantee some prices will go up in construction. Im already getting hit with increased shipping and/or delivery fees. That happened within the first 48hrs.
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LMCane said:

Logos Stick said:

FlyRod said:

FlyRod said:

Chatter from oil folks I'm hearing is $156 by June.
That's the summer floor (projected) not ceiling. Well this thread can and should stay alive just to check the numbers.



March 16 (Current)
$94.72

March 13
$96.84

March 12
$94.43

March 11
$86.07

March 10
$82.10

March 09
$94.77

March 06 (Last Friday)
$90.90

If I were speculating on oil prices, I would chatter about $156/barrel too.

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[Reposting a derail that we removed is out of bounds -- Staff]
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I work in building materials. We have effectively doubled our fuel surcharge in the past 2 weeks. B2B will definitely go back down on the other side once things settle.
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The Collective said:

I work in building materials. We have effectively doubled our fuel surcharge in the past 2 weeks. B2B will definitely go back down on the other side once things settle.


This. 14 day time limits on price locks and fuel charges are accounted for.
BigRobSA
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Gas a little further down "the main drag" of my area of SATx is now $3.699.

Closer to me is $3.369 .
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BigRobSA said:

Gas a little further down "the main drag" of my area of SATx is now $3.699.

Closer to me is $3.369 .


Just a few more weeks per this administration, mi amigo. Then it'll snap right back to where it was.

Hopefully I'm not saying the same thing in a few weeks, but into then, don't stop believing.
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So do I need to dust off my red wings and order a Raptor R or not?
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itsyourboypookie said:

So do I need to dust off my red wings and order a Raptor R or not?

you read my mind
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Diesel $4.89 now. Must be some terrible **** in those Epstein files.
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The Collective said:

I work in building materials. We have effectively doubled our fuel surcharge in the past 2 weeks. B2B will definitely go back down on the other side once things settle.

Thanks. Price of gas nor diesel have doubled. But the fuel surcharges do?

Not directed at you individually, but this is the reason we fight hard in our contracts against "fuel surcharges". The forward pricing on material should factor this risk in. Instead, the supplier just sees it as a money grab based on fake headlines.
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docb said:

Diesel $4.89 now. Must be some terrible **** in those Epstein files.

So a temporary increase of 20%-25% in diesel was done to cover up Trump's pedophilia.

Excellent analysis, would read again (for chuckles).
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doubledog said:

LMCane said:

Logos Stick said:

FlyRod said:

FlyRod said:

Chatter from oil folks I'm hearing is $156 by June.
That's the summer floor (projected) not ceiling. Well this thread can and should stay alive just to check the numbers.



March 16 (Current)
$94.72

March 13
$96.84

March 12
$94.43

March 11
$86.07

March 10
$82.10

March 09
$94.77

March 06 (Last Friday)
$90.90

If I were speculating on oil prices, I would chatter about $156/barrel too.

Futures markets are showing nothing like that.

Jul 2026 futures contract at $87.17
Dec 2026 futures contract at $75.97
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Gap said:

doubledog said:

LMCane said:

Logos Stick said:

FlyRod said:

FlyRod said:

Chatter from oil folks I'm hearing is $156 by June.
That's the summer floor (projected) not ceiling. Well this thread can and should stay alive just to check the numbers.



March 16 (Current)
$94.72

March 13
$96.84

March 12
$94.43

March 11
$86.07

March 10
$82.10

March 09
$94.77

March 06 (Last Friday)
$90.90

If I were speculating on oil prices, I would chatter about $156/barrel too.

Futures markets are showing nothing like that.

Jul 2026 futures contract at $87.17
Dec 2026 futures contract at $75.97


At those prices, the war can last the entirety of Trump's time in office (it won't) for all I care, as long as he makes Iran, as he coined, MIGA.
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CL=F is hovering around $96 this am. July-December around $88-77. A lot of opportunity to gamble on that if correct about when the war stops. Not for me. I imagine the Opec states will be eager to ship as much as possible to recover from the cash flow interruption, and Chevron/others are going to be spending to ramp up Venezuela production, as well.

This could make the fake news worries about gas prices pretty hilarious this summer.
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The guy that predicted $156 also though Covid was going to kill us all.
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BadMoonRisin said:

Dan Scott said:



So now it's an energy crisis? Not 4 years ago?

What, pray tell, was different back then?




Because 4 years ago it was about Russian oil that can be replaced by the Middle East pumping more

The oil that flows through Hormuz can not be replaced with oil from other producers
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Sq 17 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

So now it's an energy crisis? Not 4 years ago?

What, pray tell, was different back then?

Because 4 years ago it was about Russian oil that can be replaced by the Middle East pumping more

The oil that flows through Hormuz can not be replaced with oil from other producers

Maybe you missed the announcement that Russia can sell oil to anyone now. There will be more exemptions if the strait isn't re-opened soon, I imagine, though the Europeans who rely so much on it don't seem worried and the futures market seems as well unbothered.

Oil is a commodity, and is largely fungible as such.
 
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