National Mall Reflecting Pool Project - Headlines v Full Story

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Canvasback said:

Arresting people curious about the problems as being the cause of the problems is just wrong.

Hey, when you need a scapegoat you need a scapegoat.
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So many people have Tds on this thread. Ostriches when facts are presented.
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the vandals are just curious. that's all.
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Haha
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oh no said:

the vandals are just curious. that's all.

Thugs in Chicago just curious how guns work and what bullet holes in humans look like.

Why can we not foster more curiosity?!?!?
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Yawn. let me know when someone gets convicted of something...Anything! Until then, it's just cover for Trump
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torrid said:

Canvasback said:

Arresting people curious about the problems as being the cause of the problems is just wrong.

Hey, when you need a scapegoat you need a scapegoat.

Why am I reminded of strawberries?
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Found the vandals.

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Thanks for sharing the pic. Shows how tough the coating is.

Also, the coating includes reflective properties for those worried about the "dark color" heating up the pool.

Looks like this is evident between the marked vehicle and the 1st USSS suburban. (not the glossy part - I am speaking to the 'lighter' blue to the right of the vehicles.

Great pic of the in process job.

Regarding the infamous 290-300 foot tear... its possible that someone started a cut and pulled up along a seam. That also points to why its a bad idea for people to start pulling on any material that has separated.
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5 or 6 people arrested another 6 under investigation for damaging the lining and poisoning the newly installed grass.

Per Trump on the tarmac and PA. No, he did not show a video so it's certain I'm never happened and it's just made up cover him grifting with his cronies.

He did say he just folks out there and it's already looking beautiful again. But it will need to be drained to repair the vandalism.

Thanks for wasting a few million gallons of water to Hate America cause Orange Man Bad.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

BadMoonRisin said:

If you have a 6.7M gallon pool with zero circulation, I have no idea how you are supposed to keep it from growing algae. Even with high chlorination it will still grow when the temperature gets warm.


Agreed. And even if they kill the existing algae the dead algae will have no place to go without circulation and they water will be grey and cloudy instead of green. The only permanent answer to me is some kind of pump system, no clue how expensive that would be though.

The system design was engineered by the University of Ohio and University of Florida. An independent government cost estimate of the nanobubble generation system (not the entire project) ~$1.8 million.

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flown-the-coop said:

5 or 6 people arrested another 6 under investigation for damaging the lining and poisoning the newly installed grass.

Per Trump on the tarmac and PA. No, he did not show a video so it's certain I'm never happened and it's just made up cover him grifting with his cronies.

He did say he just folks out there and it's already looking beautiful again. But it will need to be drained to repair the vandalism.

Thanks for wasting a few million gallons of water to Hate America cause Orange Man Bad.
Send the bill to the DNC. They foment this kind of irrational hate.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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Plus when released into the air it smells nice (reminds me of thunderstorms) and replenishes the ozone layer destroyed by all the green alternative refrigerants that where way more polluted than hairspray and freon could ever be.
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That's still $1 too much.
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You can tell how tough the coating is from that picture?
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AxelFoley85 said:

You can tell how tough the coating is from that picture?

I work in construction and have an above average IQ.

This allows me to know if there are going to drive sever ton vehicles in a motorcade across it, then it's probably sturdy.

But I am sure the next comments from the Hate America folks will be that his advisers told him it woulx destroy the bond of the coating and he just grabbed the steering wheel and drove across it.

I mean, it's as plausible as the other crap the TDSers have spewed on Trump.
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Watching Will Cain and new Hate America talking point… Trump arresting vandals is just more authoritarianism.

They say Trump will arrest toddlers for taking a dip to cool off this summer and we should be prepared to see children in handcuffs.

This is the Goebbelizing OPAG was describing designed to paint Trump as evil that must be stopped to protect children.

And it's why someone else will inevitably try to kill him again, when they aren't busy destroying national landmarks.
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TXCityAggie said:

FTAG 2000 said:

lol there is literally video of them catching vandals attacking the pool but you Biden Bros can't even accept that.

Told my wife what kind of a fool vandalizes a pool because of the president and yet here some of you are on this thread with late stage TDS.


It's actually fascinating to watch the cult members buy into every lie that comes out of Trump's mouth. Do you know its bs deep down or do you actually believe you've seen a video of Antifa destroying the pool?

Irony is ironic
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TDS is a cult like no other!
Strange hills people pick to die on!
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jt2hunt said:

TDS is a cult like no other!
Strange hills people pick to die on!
They always accuse others of what they are doing. Pro-Americans are cultists now. So, in reality anti-American TDSers are displaying cult-like behavior.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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AustinAg2K said:

Equinox said:

91_Aggie said:

Slwdsm said:

A few quick points...

If they are doing an investigation/arrests they may not display the evidence they have at this time. Any hidden cameras they may have of the crimes would be exposed.

The people demanding evidence and placing the proof of evidence on Trump need to realize... this is not a court room. He doesn't need to prove crap to you. Showing you the evidence wouldn't matter anyways... this is the same tds infected morons that denied the Trump assassination attempt(s) and also think the perps are Republicans.

Final point... the tds posts on this thread are ridiculous. You people are really taking victory laps on a beautification project failing. No matter the cause of the failure, the fact that your big win for the week/month/term is that the reflection pool will still be a **** pile for July 4th is ridiculous. Why do you need everything to be ugly?


Someone said there was a literal video of people being arrested while vandalizing it. Trump has never shied away from showing when he is right. Why not now? If there was video he would be showing it to show how crazy the left is.

Weak.


Is it though?


Yes.

Because he quoted my post that was not directed at him and has nothing to do with the position he made and completely ignored the logic in my post with his stupid strawman (that he probably setup with a sock to begin with).
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AtlAg05 said:

AxelFoley85 said:

Just go back to river water and dye it blue. Whole thing is a dumb money pit.


For comparison(per Grok):
$16 million / $7 trillion 0.00023% (about 2.3 millionths of the budget).

Spoken like a big government type that wants to be able to defend every expenditure as just being a small part of the budget.
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I love AI for threads like these:

Quote:

what can you tell about the political leanings from the Texags thread?


Claude responded: Based on reading across the 15+ pages, the political leanings are pretty easy to characterize:
Based on reading across the 15+ pages, the political leanings are pretty easy to characterize:
The thread is overwhelmingly conservative/pro-Trump, which is unsurprising for a Texas A&M sports forum's politics board. The indicators:
Numerically lopsided. There appear to be perhaps 23 posters raising skeptical or critical points against a field of 20+ defenders. The upvote counts (likes) on posts reflect this pro-Trump posts routinely get 2095 likes while the critical posts get 1027.
The vocabulary is telling. Routine use of "TDS" (Trump Derangement Syndrome), "dims," "leftists," "the Great Husseini," "0bummer" these are standard-issue MAGA-adjacent rhetorical markers. The thread reflexively frames every criticism of Trump as partisan bad faith rather than engaging the substance.
The whataboutism pattern. Nearly every response to a procedural concern pivots immediately to Obama's $34M, USAID, Solyndra, Hunter Biden's drug use, or Stacey Abrams. This is a classic defensive rhetorical move of partisans who feel their team is under attack.
The skeptics are outnumbered but not irrational. "Pagerman @ work," "nai06," "HTownAg98," and a handful of others raise genuinely substantive points and notably, those points held up better under scrutiny than the majority position. They're probably center-right or libertarian-leaning rather than left-wing they don't defend Democrats, they just refuse to excuse Trump on procedural grounds.
The one honest moderate. User "BQ78" stands out he explicitly said the no-bid process was wrong AND acknowledged it was a small problem compared to larger Democratic failures. That kind of "a pox on both houses" position is rare in the thread and suggests genuine independent thinking.
The thread is essentially a microcosm of how partisan forums process uncomfortable facts: the majority moves through denial, whataboutism, and mockery before grudgingly acknowledging problems only when they become undeniable at which point the blame shifts entirely to vandals.

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AxelFoley85 said:

You can tell how tough the coating is from that picture?

I don't need a picture to tell me that polyurea coatings are tough. They are used all over the world in protective applications that have heavy loads, high traffic or use chemical applications because they are generally pretty resistant to most chemicals (especially petroleum based).

The reflecting pool is about 7 acres. If even say a 300'x300' section had issues with the polyurea coating adhering to the primer, it's a very small overall percentage of the coatings that failed - that would only be 3% of the total area. And you can do everything 100% per NACE and manufacturer protocol and have a coating fail. Sometimes weird stuff happens in that world, I've had coatings fail on my projects before that were 100% within every application protocol.

The contractor is required, by contract, to repair the coatings areas that have failed at no cost to the government (assuming it isn't a pure vandalism or destructive issue). That's part of the standard builder's warranty that comes with every single government contract out there.

It is still amazing to me at the fact that there are people that have such a hatred of Trump that they would dance a jig if the country went down in flames if they could find a way to blame him for it. It's sad really, and I honestly pity those people because their lives must truly suck something fierce.
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GeorgiAg said:

I love AI for threads like these:

Quote:

what can you tell about the political leanings from the Texags thread?


Claude responded: Based on reading across the 15+ pages, the political leanings are pretty easy to characterize:
Based on reading across the 15+ pages, the political leanings are pretty easy to characterize:
The thread is overwhelmingly conservative/pro-Trump, which is unsurprising for a Texas A&M sports forum's politics board. The indicators:
Numerically lopsided. There appear to be perhaps 23 posters raising skeptical or critical points against a field of 20+ defenders. The upvote counts (likes) on posts reflect this pro-Trump posts routinely get 2095 likes while the critical posts get 1027.
The vocabulary is telling. Routine use of "TDS" (Trump Derangement Syndrome), "dims," "leftists," "the Great Husseini," "0bummer" these are standard-issue MAGA-adjacent rhetorical markers. The thread reflexively frames every criticism of Trump as partisan bad faith rather than engaging the substance.
The whataboutism pattern. Nearly every response to a procedural concern pivots immediately to Obama's $34M, USAID, Solyndra, Hunter Biden's drug use, or Stacey Abrams. This is a classic defensive rhetorical move of partisans who feel their team is under attack.
The skeptics are outnumbered but not irrational. "Pagerman @ work," "nai06," "HTownAg98," and a handful of others raise genuinely substantive points and notably, those points held up better under scrutiny than the majority position. They're probably center-right or libertarian-leaning rather than left-wing they don't defend Democrats, they just refuse to excuse Trump on procedural grounds.
The one honest moderate. User "BQ78" stands out he explicitly said the no-bid process was wrong AND acknowledged it was a small problem compared to larger Democratic failures. That kind of "a pox on both houses" position is rare in the thread and suggests genuine independent thinking.
The thread is essentially a microcosm of how partisan forums process uncomfortable facts: the majority moves through denial, whataboutism, and mockery before grudgingly acknowledging problems only when they become undeniable at which point the blame shifts entirely to vandals.




Enjoy AI in your legal pleadings.
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Reflecting pool 2030' x 167' = 339,010 sf

300' x 300' = 90,000 sf

90,000 / 339,010 = 0.266 = 26.6%

ETA
The peeling areas may only amount to 1,017 sf or 0.3% of the pool plan area
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You realize Claude knows you voted for Biden and factors that in.

I ran the same through Grok+ with different results.

Claude also see to give high credence to MSM. Thats seems legit.
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flown-the-coop said:

HTownAg98 said:

You can see pictures of torn pieces of the liner posted everywhere. They're not hard to find. And yes, it's speculation as to why the liner is separating. But while there's no proof of vandalism, there is some proof that the liner didn't adhere properly. We don't know why, and I'm sure the people that installed it thought it would work as outlined in the scope of work. But it didn't. So fix it.

what proof?

And sorry, I don't trust random pics from the internet. In 10 minutes I could have Looch dancing in a Hookem leotard with tassles seducing a gay bear from baylol, but Dems are unable to manufacture pics? And that is somehow proof that you understand what is going on? And that is somehow now absolutely to blame on experienced contractor who does this for a living?

Please…

I couldnt resist. See yall in 3 days...



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LOL. My family has been in concrete and foundation work for the better part of 75 years. I literally grew up working on slabs and spent the first half of my career working them. My wife is an architect. Neither of us could tell you a single thing about the coating from a photo. What a ridiculous assumption on your part but TDS, hate America party!!!
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AxelFoley85 said:

LOL. My family has been in concrete and foundation work for the better part of 75 years. I literally grew up working on slabs and spent the first half of my career working them. My wife is an architect. Neither of us could tell you a single thing about the coating from a photo. What a ridiculous assumption on your part but TDS, hate America party!!!

Ok. Pouring slabs =/= heavy duty coating solutions.

I absolutely would not expect an architect to know a damn thing about construction materials and proper installs. They just want things to look cool and pretty and leave it to the construction folks to figure it out. And yes, I have a homebuilding company AND a foundation company.

Also, if you cared to look at the company installing it, the contractor and other details on the project then you can tell things from pictures.

I read about the reflective properties of the dark blue top coat. Which you can clearly see in the picture, imagine that.

So no, not a ridiculous assumption on my part. More like La k of knowledge on your regarding the solution used on the pool.
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I agree with you 98%. What I don't agree with is making an assertion based off a photo. I wouldn't place such an assumption without having inspected the work myself.
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Sure you do, buddy. Must be slow season with how much time you spend on here goal tending mediocrity. Gonna start calling you Eloy Room.
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Who is Eloy Room.

I hope you realize that deep down, in my heart, I don't care if you believe me.

And sorry I can tell things from a picture that you cannot. It's nothing to be ashamed of, people are different.
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AxelFoley85 said:

I agree with you 98%. What I don't agree with is making an assertion based off a photo. I wouldn't place such an assumption without having inspected the work myself.

Then go inspect it if that is what you require.

I do not.
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So with all the attention this is getting, most of it bad, and with all the people there, at what point will there be a violent act of some kind?
 
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