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3rdGenAg05
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In reply to txags92 • 11:55a, 5/16/24
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txags92 said:
So speaking of trusts, what is the process for adding somebody to a trust? Right now my trust is just me, with my wife as heir to the trust. How easy is it to add her as a member of the trust?


Assuming you had an attorney create the trust, just have them amend it. It's simple. I'm sure the attorney will charge you a small fee. Depending on her "status" (not sure of correct legal jargon) on the trust, she may have to get fingerprinted, etc.
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In reply to 3rdGenAg05 • 4:22p, 5/16/24
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My trust came with a form that is filled out to add someone and another that is filled out to remove someone. I don't think they have to be photographed or printed until you add something new the trust. I think if property is already part of the trust they don't have the be printed and all that to join, only when we things are added
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In reply to 3rdGenAg05 • 5:17p, 5/16/24
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Individual on this one. My other stuff is in a trust. I'll transfer this one to the trust eventually and pay another $200. I just know the individuals are getting approved really fast right now, so I can have it now and possess it the entire time I'm waiting for it to transfer to family trust…that was worth an extra $200 to me.

Famous covered the pros/cons from my perspective. Family Trust allows more members of our family to own and possess them, including kids once they're of age.


Thanks. I've got a trust already, was just pondering doing an individual one to get one quicker like you.


Was trying to figure out what I'm missing or what the negatives are outside of the additional tax.
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 5:23p, 5/16/24
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At this rate, I'm just going to buy my next ones under the trust. If it was days like others on here, great. Since it is at least a month and a half now, I might as well do the trust and just wait 7-8 months and avoid a $200 transfer fee later.
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In reply to FamousAgg • 6:10p, 5/16/24
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Not a lawyer or an expert but my trust is revocable and I've pulled people off before in the past and using the 41f amendment (I think that's what it's called) to do so. The way I understand it is that I can add or remove people from the trust at my discretion and doing so can help alleviate the need to get everyone fingerprinted on the trust every time a new item requiring a tax stamp is purchased.
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12:52p, 5/17/24
I'll chime in with my experience for everyone debating individual vs trust. Submitted eforms for 1 purchased from silencer shop on 2/20/24 and 2 purchased from primary arms on 3/16. I used SS single shot trusts for all. Approved for all 3 on 5/8.
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12:04p, 5/20/24
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Submitted 1/27/24
Approved 5/20/24

Single Shot Trust
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1:20p, 5/20/24
I became a Life Member of the NRA this past weekend at the convention in Dallas and got a free can from Silencer Central. It was for a .22lr & you could upgrade to a different one if you wanted to pay the difference in the cost + the $200 theft.
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In reply to El Chupacabra • 5:08p, 5/20/24
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El Chupacabra said:
Capitol Armory Order

Card swiped for Hybrid 46 and Omega 300 (and fingerprint kit) on Jan 5.
Fingerprint kit delivered Jan 10
Fingerprints mailed Jan 11
Fingerprints uploaded Jan 19
ATF Form 4 DocuSigned Jan 19. I guess this is the 'official' start of the process.
Eform4 officially submitted 1/22/24

Now time to forget about it until the day the FATF decides to allow me to have my toys.


Approved today. Should have in hand in <3weeks. (This was in a trust).
May 17 - dropped off at my front door.
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2:51p, 5/23/24
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Form 1 submitted 7/19/2023

Still waiting
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3:38p, 5/23/24
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What the heck causes the discrepancy in turn around time? Is it common names have longer waits? Is it certain folks require higher level of scrutiny?

Just seems weird how some people have theirs turned around so quickly and others wait way longer for exact same thing.
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 3:40p, 5/23/24
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ttha_aggie_09 said:
What the heck causes the discrepancy in turn around time? Is it common names have longer waits? Is it certain folks require higher level of scrutiny?

Just seems weird how some people have theirs turned around so quickly and others wait way longer for exact same thing.


I genuinely think it is luck of the draw
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3:51p, 5/23/24
form 1 vs form 4 makes a difference for some reason
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In reply to tandy miller • 3:56p, 5/23/24
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I think this is right unfortunately. SOP for government I suppose
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In reply to ttha_aggie_09 • 3:59p, 5/23/24
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ttha_aggie_09 said:
I think this is right unfortunately. SOP for government I suppose


Case in point: my suppressors ranged from 120-280 days. Same filing method, same LGS, etc
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4:35p, 5/23/24
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I was chatting with my local gun pusher this week and he said the individual apps are the only ones he's seeing going through in 48hr to 1wk, any kind of trust (including the one shots) are still taking a while
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In reply to Charismatic Megafauna • 4:38p, 5/23/24
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Charismatic Megafauna said:
I was chatting with my local gun pusher this week and he said the individual apps are the only ones he's seeing going through in 48hr to 1wk, any kind of trust (including the one shots) are still taking a while
I'm a few days short of half a year on an individual F4. Three more that are almost two months. I don't get it!
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In reply to tandy miller • 11:18a, 5/24/24
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tandy miller said:
ttha_aggie_09 said:
What the heck causes the discrepancy in turn around time? Is it common names have longer waits? Is it certain folks require higher level of scrutiny?

Just seems weird how some people have theirs turned around so quickly and others wait way longer for exact same thing.


I genuinely think it is luck of the draw
the kind of luck that comes from utter incompetence
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1:45p, 5/30/24
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After waiting 125 days I just picked up my very first can (SilencerCo Switchback) on an e-form 4 trust

Was it the first can I purchased? No
Did they do a batch approval since I have others submitted on the same trust? No
Does it make any sense? No
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3:29p, 6/3/24
submitted my form in late March. Guys at the sporting goods store told me if you are an individual, the approval is a quick turn around time, but if you have a gun trust, it takes forever.

Anyone have this experience?
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In reply to Mondemonium • 3:41p, 6/3/24
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Yeah I had two form 4 individuals approved one in 5 days and one in 6 days back in March.
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In reply to Mondemonium • 4:16p, 6/3/24
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I submitted individual at end of March and have heard nothing.

I submitted one on my trust first week of April and also haven't heard back.

It's a total crap shoot and I hate all of this…
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5:40p, 6/3/24
Anybody have any Form 1 Trusts completed recently? Gonna have a couple lowers done and wondering how long before I can throw the stocks on em!
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In reply to aggietb • 5:41p, 6/3/24
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I'm sitting at around three months.
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In reply to aggietb • 5:42p, 6/3/24
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Two months for me right now and still no approval
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9:23p, 6/3/24
Sheesh that's garbage! But can't say I'm surprised!
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12:14p, 6/5/24
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Put in multiple tax stamps at different times and all approved yesterday 6/4.

Suppressors 9/27/23, 10/10/23, 10/28/23 and a form 1 SBR on 1/26/24.
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10:53a, 6/6/24
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Finally got my 11/30/23 individual Form 4 approved today 6/6/2024. Only 190 days when silencershop is claiming 2 day averages for Individual Form 4s.

Silencerco Omega 300 BOGO can from a June 2023 purchase.

Now hopefully my three from early April will come through as a batch and I don't have to wait another four months like this one.
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In reply to aggieforester05 • 11:07a, 6/6/24
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aggieforester05 said:
Silencerco Omega 300 BOGO can from a June 2023 purchase.


Your BOGO can finally shipped from SiCo to your local vendor to start the ATF approval process, or it shipped a while ago and you just got it approved by ATF?

I'm still waiting for SiCo to ship my free can so I can start with ATF, but I got in at the end of the promotion, and didn't purchase until the end of July.
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In reply to drummer0415 • 11:14a, 6/6/24
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drummer0415 said:
aggieforester05 said:
Silencerco Omega 300 BOGO can from a June 2023 purchase.


Your BOGO can finally shipped from SiCo to your local vendor to start the ATF approval process, or it shipped a while ago and you just got it approved by ATF?

I'm still waiting for SiCo to ship my free can so I can start with ATF, but I got in at the end of the promotion, and didn't purchase until the end of July.
I got in on the BOGO on day 9 this time, because I was at the end of it in 2021 and it took me 635 days to get that suppressor including the shipping time and ATF wait time.

It shipped sometime between September and November, but I was never notified that it shipped or had been received. Once I figured it out it took me about a week to make it to the FFL to certify. I certified on 11/30 and it just got approved today. My Omega was part of the recall, so I hope my FFL actually has it back.

Update since my earlier post: I've gotten approvals on two of my three April cans since then (YHM Fat Cat and YHM Turbo K-RB. Hoping the third one (Dead Air Wolverine) comes through in short order. That's the one I'm most excited about.

ETA: Wolverine just approved, hell yeah!

Now I need to get one in the jail, because having one in jail is somehow oddly addicting. Probably going to be a YHM Bad Larry, because it will work on my 12" 308 and 12" 8.6BLK AR-10 build.
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In reply to aggieforester05 • 11:39a, 6/6/24
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Damn, so you got 4 approved in one day? You're having a good day!
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In reply to drummer0415 • 11:43a, 6/6/24
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drummer0415 said:
Damn, so you got 4 approved in one day? You're having a good day!
Yes sir, 4 in 31 minutes. Certifications spanning over four months. I guess batch approvals are a real thing.
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7:29a, 6/7/24
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455 days

Received email that its approved last night. Feel like Christmas

Paper form 4 trust

Dead Air Nomad LT
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455 days




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