I'd like to see him become our captain soon. He plays so hard.

100%. This team needs a captain with energy and piss and vinegar. There's just something about VVD that I've never loved as captain.

LOL. We're so bad. Absolutely zero killer instinct.

Easy to see coming. I just don't understand how you let the ball get to ground. What was Gravenberch doing?

My biggest gripe is we go up and go into a giant shell. Just an insanely soft mentality. We were on the counter, Szbo passes to Gomez running up the field and Gomez just stops when he could keep running on a counter. WTF ARE YOU DOING. You want to waste more time?

Fire Slot. He has ruined any killer instinct and toughness we had.

I knew we were screwed when we took the ball to the corner flag with 9 minutes to go.

This thing is so out of control, and he's so right. He's been painted as this scape when it's obvious there are way, way bigger issues.

More from Salah…

“I have done so much to the club, the respect I want to get. And I don’t have to go every day fighting for my position because I earn it. People will say, oh, you look bigger than anyone. I’m not bigger than anyone. I earned my position.”

💬 Mohamed Salah pic.twitter.com/uUDi13vXNc

— Anfield Agenda (@AnfieldAgenda) December 6, 2025

And he ain't wrong…

And more…

“I have been at this club, scoring more than anyone in this generation since I came to the Premier League, I don’t think anyone has scored more goals and made more assists than me. In the whole Premier League. If I am somewhere else, everybody would go to the media and defend the… pic.twitter.com/YOX9t98P3x

— Anfield Agenda (@AnfieldAgenda) December 6, 2025

This thing is spiraling and turning ugly….was inevitable at the current rate.

Salahs drop off is only part of the problem (but it's a big one as he was our talisman). Past performances don't earn him a spot and he's earned the bench.

What a mess all the way around…captain obvious here.

I agree and disagree with Mo. I agree that he's done a metric ton for this club and likely the community, and I do think he's been scape goated this season. We have so many issues, Salah included, but I think he's further down the list. He didn't just become washed over night. Is he what he was two and three years ago? No absolutely not, because Father Time does catch you eventually. But he isn't awful, and I feel like we've completely cast him out as the only issue and quit on him.

What I don't agree with is his view that he should be starting basically every game and that he's kinda undroppable. You have to have some self awareness that you are now 33/34 years old and that you probably can't quite do it like you once could. So you need to accept that you might get subbed for at 70, or you might be benched for a game to keep you fresh etc.

And this is where I blame Slot and management. They have had absolutely no plan for him and the rest of the team this year. It feels like they went from 100 to 0 overnight. He wasn't getting dropped at all and then he's benched and now not playing at all. You the coach need to better massage relationships and be a better leader, I don't think Slot is doing any of it.

The problem is that current Salah is only effective when given a free role. We all know he went to Arne last year and asked for more freedom and less defensive duties. That strategy only works when 1) you can defend 9 v 10 and 2) the free man actually consistently creates danger forcing the opposition to change their tactics. Neither is happening this year. He isn't the scapegoat, but he just isn't a useful player for this broken version of Liverpool. We need someone willing to trackback and help out the RB.

His drop off hasn't been a mystery either. He was slowing down in the second half of the season last year. PSG targeted him, knowing that he wouldn't provide any resistance (and then boasted about it after the game).

He hasn't been the only problem this year. Macca, Konate, Kerkez, VVD, Gakpo, Isak, Frimpong, Bradley, Wirtz and Curtis have all had terrible performances this year. Many of those players have also been benched for a few games. None of them undermined the team by crying to the press.

It is clear that Arne is struggling to get the best out of the team; however, Mo is supposed to be a leader. By bringing his frustrations to the press he brings more distractions to an already difficult situation.

I really enjoyed watching him play for many years, but he has always been an ego driven player. Now is not the time for this, and I think its best for all if he found a new club.

I think we should sell Mo at the window. This blow up today isn't really recoverable IMO and I too don't blame him for going off. I get reducing minutes and not starting him every game but to sit like he has the last 3 is crazy and mismanagement of a key player.

He's been off. Is it age? Is it the loss of a great friend in Diogo Jota? Is it the influx of all the shiny new toys and not finding a way to keep himself productive? Who knows.

Either way, Mo gotta go in January and I think he's going to push for it. Let's just cash in.

Can we hire Cignetti?

Salah not traveling for the Inter game. He's gone in January to Saudi.

I think this was player engineered. This is the way the whole team feels and Mo just said, screw it, I'll jump on the grenade. I believe his outburst is the way the locker room feels. Slot has lost the dressing room.

This is team versus the manager and we are about to find out who wins. The Club has to risk losing the team or the manager. I don't see any way Slot makes it past New Year's. We need to be in Champions League. We still have a pretty decent rebuild to finish. Get your popcorn ready.

And I agree what many of you have said, this team is so weak mentally and has no killer instinct. They are also so lethargic and slow. Zero energy or pace. It's so bad that the announcers were calling that out in the Sunderland game. It's so sad and frustrating to see where we have fallen in such short time.

This is my belief as well. I think Slot and the coaching staff have completely lost the locker room, and Mo was simply saying the quiet part out loud as it related to him and his situation. This is now a team versus management problem that is burning full roar.

Even worse, the fans know this and are going to back Salah and the boys whole heartedly because they want Slot out too. He needs to be gone by New Years.

Management is in a weird spot here too because they probably can't get the manager or managers they want until the summer, so they cant fire Slot and staff until they have someone who is willing to come in for 4 months and try to right the ship.

Such a sad, sad situation overall. And it's not an either or scenario, Salah's time is up and it's time for him to go (especially after what he said)....along with Slot. This isn't working and has past the point of no return. Problem is, like already mentioned ...the timing is really bad. Who are you going to get or what are you going to do until summer?

But you may just have to do something or this may just be on the path of burning completely to the ground.

It's sad for Salah's career here to go down like this. But he has been needing to see the pine for a while (as already mentioned this started last year and sooner even--remember his spat with Klopp coming off the bench after being in poor form for a while?). He got so much rope...never taken out at all last year and this year until 3 games ago. His comments of earning his positions based on legacy and being the scapegoat is ridiculous. Robbo lost his job and Wirtz, Macca, Frimpong, Kerkez and Isac have all been benched at times.

Anyways, not to rehash opinions on that now, but Slot and above have managed everything poorly and this thing needs a whole reset.

Well said gents. It should be a caretaker to close out the season aka Gerrard or some respected former manager that is "in between" jobs. Then I'd go guns blazing for Glasner. I'd lock him down now if he'd come because United will be in for him if/when they move on from Amorim. Iraola and Xabi options, but not super keen on those at the moment given recent form. Not an exhaustive list by any means.

So what happened to Slott? Feeling himself too much after last year? Not putting in the necessary work after success?

I think part of it is that he didn't know exactly how to Jota situation; part of it is we don't have ideal players to play his system/style anymore.

He's also been completely figured out tactically and hasn't been able to adapt. The league will always catch up if you can't adapt.

He's 100% been figured out tactically and won't adjust. The biggest thing teams have done against us all year is essentially press man marked some combo of VVD, Konate and Gravenberch and we cannot get the ball out anymore. Then on top of that we don't have the players to take advantage longer balls over the top or through midfield.

Just my opinion, but if you are going to field a bigger/slower/physical/methodical team in this day and age of football, you have be NAILS tactically. You have to have the right players in the right positions to take advantage of their presence, and we haven't done that in the slightest. We're slow in key areas, lack size in others, and have not fully committed to a style or brand of ball.

And people will come back with "well everyone knew how Klopp was going to play and he didn't adjust to anyone" and they'd be right, but Klopp based his whole premise and schtick around high high energy pressing and counter attacking. If that is the basis of your style then being tactically as on it doesn't matter. Your energy and skill will take over games and that's what happened. We're a slow, indecisive group that can't break a low block down, can't press and can't counter attack.

I am in a slightly different boat but still floating in the same direction as most of y'all. So don't hate me as I give my opinion.

First things first, the result on Saturday. This one is not on Arne Slot. The team was set up for success and was cruising until Konate made the dumbest tackle of the season. Completely unnecessary as the Leeds players was already running out of bounds. Defending Crosses 101: Don't lunge on the byline in the box. It was stupid, it was careless, it changed the game. We were in cruise control until Ibou gave them a chance and gifted them all the momentum. Szoboszlai then apparently comes to the rescue. Slot then brings on Endo to add an extra body in the defensive midfield (the correct decision imo), drops everyone to defend except for Isak, whose best trait is running behind the defense (another correct decision imo). Our inability to defend set pieces, especially corners, ends up costing us the win. Slot pulled the right strings and pushed the correct buttons in the second half, finally something reminiscent of what we saw him do last season. Boneheaded decisions by players is what led to more dropped points. This one, for me, is not on Slot.

Secondly, the Mo Salah situation. I think he has handled it all wrong and the situation may now be untenable. Kenny Dalglish once said something along the lines of " No individual is bigger than this club; there never has been and never will be." I know he is frustrated (so are the rest of his teammates, coaches, and fans) but, for me, that is not how you handle the situation. Is what he said entirely wrong? No. Is how he said it wrong? I would say yes. Now Mo Salah is criminally underrated in the world of football. How he doesn't have a Ballon D'Or or another African Footballer of the Year (he only has two: 2017 & 2018) is probably another discussion entirely. He is consistently undervalued in Britain and within the British press. He has been made the primary scapegoat of our current form. But that also comes with being the superstar on what has been a phenomenal team for the last decade or so. When things go right, you are praised; and when things aren't going so great, the spotlight shines brightest on you. All those things can be true, but you still do not air out the dirty laundry for public consumption. Mo Salah rarely gives interviews after games, so when he does, make no mistake that it is a calculated move by himself and his agent. He has now forced management and the owners to make a decision: either Salah or Slot has to go.

What has rubbed me the wrong way was his sentiment that he doesn't need to fight for his place, that he has earned it through his years of service. This is where Salah's ego works against him. He threw (a slightly less albeit still public) fit on the sidelines when Jurgen Klopp dared to bench him too. Salah should know, better than anyone in the world, but especially at this club, that minutes are earned, not given. It does not matter who you are. He has been financially compensated for the past. The present and the future depends on what you do on the training pitch and what you do each match day. And Salah has been a poor performer this season. And he is not the only one. Salah should be rightfully upset that he is being dropped when Cody Gakpo isn't (who has been just as poor, if not worse) and neither is Konate (if Joe Gomez doesn't start at CB today...). Kerkez has been dropped at times this season and so have Wirtz and Macca. None have vented publicly. Now none hold the status that Mo does, but I think my point still stands. If anyone should feel hard done by at Liverpool at the moment, it is Chiesa. What more can that guy do to get minutes? Single-handedly saved us a point over the weekend.

Now what we don't know is how the rest of the club feel about the situation. Is Salah alone in his feelings toward the manager? Or has the manager lost the locker room? That is now on the owners to figure out. The reason I say that my boat is floating in the same direction as y'all is that I get the feeling that the latter is true. While I don't pin the weekend's performance on the manager, the intensity and work ethic of the players in other games may be a reflection of how they feel about the manager. Slot had the impossible task of replacing Klopp, a manager the players would run through a wall for. It's easy to have the respect of your players when the team is winning as it was relatively smooth sailing to the title last season. The real test has been this first half of the season where little has gone right. Lots of factors can be contributing to our current form and they probably all are to a certain extent: huge turnover of the roster, the loss of the irreplaceable Diogo Jota, leadership being one year older, teams increasingly relying more and more on set pieces (our HUGE Achilles heel), and teams playing even lower blocks against us. The list goes on.

It appears that Mo Salah's punishment for his outburst is being dropped from the squad entirely for our midweek game today. Gakpo has apparently picked up an injury and Chiesa was ill this week. So none of the three have travelled to Italy. So we'll see what lineup we put out today.

As for what will happen, I am still not sure. Slot has likely built a lot of goodwill with FSG after last season, but have the results this season exhausted all of that? David Ornstein is one of the go to guys in the British football press, if he says something, you can bet it is well sourced and well vetted. And he seems to think FSG will leave it up to Salah on what he wants to do. He seems to think that if he wants to go, the onus will be on him and his agents to bring appropriate suitors and bids. But that Liverpool are also happy to work with him in integrating him back into the squad. Mo Salah has been one of my favourite players from this generation and he is undoubtedly a top 5 player to ever play for Liverpool Football Club. I hope I haven't seen the last of him in Red.

Haven't read the whole post yet but don't worry about it man. We're all just discussing the issues and your belief if your belief. Nothing wrong with it.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk

No such thing as a wrong opinion or thoughts. We are all just spitballing here trying to understand what went so wrong seemingly overnight. Everyone is just understanbly shocked to see where we are at now. It's a stunning reversal of the likes I can't think of in almost any sports team I have followed. To me, it's a combo of a bit of everything that we have all discussed on here.

So, just my opinion and in no particular order: the fall off a cliff of many players this year, non gelling and bad fit of new transfers, makeup of the team-it's poorly constructed, not addressing the back end, being figured out tactically and Slot with no clue on how to counter or get the best of the players/lineup or form an identity/plan, the Jota situation and on and on.

All of this has led to a completely soft team with no confidence/belief or mental attitude to overcome anything that goes wrong. We have lost our identity of mentality monsters and any ability (speed/energy/desire) to press and wreak havoc. We don't counter or break and play this meaningless possession that results in very few chances. Other teams play the low block and counter and expose our midfield and horrific backend and their propensity for brain dead mistakes. We have no answer for it. Throw in that the PL is now about set pieces and long ball/throw ins and we can't do either nor defend it and here we are.

As I have said from my perspective in an above post, it's not an either or situation as far as the Slot and Salah situation. It's both. This was inevitably coming for and from Salah with just father time and his form. But what he said and did was unacceptable and he has been eviscerated by most pundits and others. Carragher, Nicols and others had some great responses to it the last couple days. And as said an above post and here, Slot has gotten this team all wrong (along with some players as well) and fair or not, I think it's past the point of salvaging (would love to be wrong) and needs a reset.

Isak and Ekitike are both starting, backed up by Mac Allister, Szbo, Gravenberch, and Jones. No idea how this is going to look. Could be 442 or 4-1-2-1-2 or something else.

Idk whatever formation that was supposed to be but it definitely did not work lol.

We are pointing fingers at Slot and Mo (fairly), but we are missing the elephant in the room....Edwards.

Every single one of his signings this summer has been a flop except for Hugo.

In particular, the signing of Isak is probably one of the biggest issues. When you pay that much money for a player, you feel obliged to play him. That said, he clearly wasn't training properly prior to his transfer and to be honest he looks like a shell of his former self. He isn't particularly fast or good at dribbling, and he provides very little useful movement. He is basically a 150 million dollar statue. You can really see the contrast today where Hugo and Isak both started as Strikers. Hugo has been everywhere while Isak has been largely invisible. At this rate, Andy Carroll will go down as a better LFC player...

Worst of all, we didn't really need to make that transfer. We could have brought in a couple of younger guys for that money that would have injected real energy into our team, which is what we have done in the past. Edwards decided to change the blueprint and has turned us into Manchester United.

I won't fight you whatsoever on the Isak deal. As good as he is and can be, that whole fiasco ruined his fall and put us in a damn bind because we were essentially down to three forwards (Ekitike, Salah and Gakpo; Rio and Chiesa don't count because they don't play). On top of that you now have two massive money strikers and a manager we don't know can manage them.

I still think there is nothing wrong with buying a player of Wirtz caliber, and still believe he's a great player. We just don't have a system and players around him to take advantage of what he does best imo.

Kerkez and Frimpong I have no clue about. Frimpong is a legit wingback and we don't play that style (although I could argue we should try). I think he's a tremendous talent. Kerkez is kinda in the same boat but I could see him being an absolute flop as well.

I think whiffing on Guehi is actually the cardinal sin of all.

Our inability to counter attack is absolutely mind-boggling.

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