DallasAg 94 said:

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DirtyMikesBoys said:

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Right now, one ship of LNG from the US to EUR is clearing almost $200,000,000 profit. Pretty wild number. I don't know who did what related to this, but American LNG companies are making it rain.

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That's a lot of NIL money. We going to be good this recruiting season.

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Norway applying to the SEC.

You post as if you, and you alone, have all the reliable data.

Haha wow. Most of Russia's initial force is injured, dead, or exhausted, and the replacement situation is so dire that Putin levied a mass conscription that sent hundreds of thousands of people in that critical demographic running for the border. Most of the ones that don't draft dodge are going to be depressed and under trained, and will give up and surrender at the first sign of real danger.

I'm not saying Ukraine is out of the woods, but Russia is in deep ***** They simply can't handle western military equipment, doctrines, and training. Maybe Russia wins by throwing bodies at the Ukrainians for two years, but if Putin goes that route a coup is not out of the question. This isn't 1900. Their citizens are going to get tired of dying and living in squalor under crushing sanctions.

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You post as if you, and you alone, have all the reliable data.

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You can see Russia's priority of securing potable water for Crimea, first 3 hours that was a priority. Zelensky was withholding freshwater by cementing the canals from the Dniper.

You can see that Russia claimed all the coastline in the south. When all this is said and done, Russia owns the EEZs for all the O&G.

The referendas will be confirmed by Russia short after the vote and the Russian majority provinces will be admitted into Russia instead of autonomous-ish republics. That should tell you something. Rather than have a buffer state, it's now going to end up as members in the Russian federation...under Putins direct sovereignty instead of a partner like Belarus.

Do you deny Russia took the Avozstal? It was well known as the staging point of UKR forces into the Donbass provinces.

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vaguely reminds me of this:

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EXACTLY!!!

All the mental gymnastics when the real answer is simply:

Fauci funded gain of research corona virus escaped the wuhan lab and caused a global pandemic.

And now, with the pipeline sabotage we've people creating irrational, 4D chess explanations when it's a simple checkers double jump:

Biden's Under Secretary (in January): Putin, if you invade Ukraine the sanction will be NS2 goes away.

Biden (in February): Putin, if you invade Ukraine the sanction will be NS2 goes away.

Putin: Dare you. And invades Ukrain.

<<pipeline blows>> (while US ships & Ukrainian forces were in area practicing underwater demolition)

Naive People Everywhere: Wonder who did that?!?

Not a follower of him but Jordan Peterson told Piers Morgan this week it's obvious Russia is prevail here.

Is JP "an ivan"?

Does JP seem like someone who doesn't have credible sources and speaks out of ignorance on things?

He certainly isn't a fan of dictators. Maybe. Just maybe what you think is happening is just spin to feed your endorphins.

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Ag In Ok said:

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You post as if you, and you alone, have all the reliable data.

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You can see Russia's priority of securing potable water for Crimea, first 3 hours that was a priority. Zelensky was withholding freshwater by cementing the canals from the Dniper.

You can see that Russia claimed all the coastline in the south. When all this is said and done, Russia owns the EEZs for all the O&G.

The referendas will be confirmed by Russia short after the vote and the Russian majority provinces will be admitted into Russia instead of autonomous-ish republics. That should tell you something. Rather than have a buffer state, it's now going to end up as members in the Russian federation...under Putins direct sovereignty instead of a partner like Belarus.

Do you deny Russia took the Avozstal? It was well known as the staging point of UKR forces into the Donbass provinces.

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Russia doesn't own anything, when it's all said and done. Putin totally miscalculated. The first thing to do when you realize you are in a hole is to stop digging.

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I don't care about Ukraine. I care about embarrassing Vlad/Russia and it's happening. Dude is just getting depantsed on the world stage and I love it.

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Do you care at all about the current and potential cost to the United States, or do you just care about getting your rocks off right here and now? You think like a small child.

It's all Monopoly money at this point. None of it matters. Might as well embarrass Putin, which we are easily doing now.

No one believes those sham referendums and most of those areas will be back in Uke control by next summer, if not sooner.

Russia simply doesn't have the weapons.

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It's all Monopoly money at this point. None of it matters. Might as well embarrass Putin, which we are easily doing now.

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Wrong. It's is currency and when we print it and send it overseas we devalue it. It's not right to say "we have 8.5% inflation but so what if it doubles and Americans suffer even more ...as long as we embarrass Putin." That is the logic of a child. Can you point to the doll and show us where Putin touched you that caused you to dismiss American suffering to "get the bad man Putin".

Teslag said:

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No one believes those sham referendums and most of those areas will be back in Uke control by next summer, if not sooner.

Russia simply doesn't have the weapons.

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The government doesn't have money. They either take it from tax payers or go into debt, which is our debt.

We are already in debt up to our eyeballs. It doesn't matter anymore. If we are going to max out the family credit card we might as well spend it on fun ****.

Yukon Cornelius said:

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Teslag said:

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We are already in debt up to our eyeballs. It doesn't matter anymore. If we are going to max out the family credit card we might as well spend it on fun ****.

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Such a shameful view. Not a penny should go over seas until we take care of our country.

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In a perfect world I agree.

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Teslag said:

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We are already in debt up to our eyeballs. It doesn't matter anymore. If we are going to max out the family credit card we might as well spend it on fun ****.

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Such a shameful view. Not a penny should go over seas until we take care of our country.

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We spend nearly a trillion a year on defense. Have you been complaining about our defense budget for years?

Best layman level explanation I've seen.

https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/09/nordstream.html

In 2020 a full ship could carry $10 million worth of natural gas. Now that same ship has a value of 281 million of the same cargo!

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Best layman level explanation I've seen.

https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/09/nordstream.html

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Idk. That guy doesn't sound very technical for someone who grew up in oilfields. Specifically, methane will not explode or combust without an oxidizer, and he should know that.

I do think the hypothesis of a methane hydrate plug getting launched and rupturing the line is plausible, but we're talking a physical breach, not an explosion. I admit I might be overly critical here, but unless air entered the line in large enough quantities to cross the lower flammability limit, an explosion did not occur.

Still think it was a computer hack in place based on Brandon's boast.

TRADUCTOR said:

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Still think it was a computer hack in place based on Brandon's boast.

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You mean not actual damage-- -by `hack' some valves just remotely opened or similar?

titan said:

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TRADUCTOR said:

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Still think it was a computer hack in place based on Brandon's boast.

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You mean not actual damage-- -by `hack' some valves just remotely opened or similar?

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No, I think he means a computer hack that led to physical pipeline damage. I've seen the pictures of the boiling sea where the gas is reaching the surface, so I don't think anyone can deny that there's evidence of physical damage to the pipeline.

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titan said:

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TRADUCTOR said:

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Still think it was a computer hack in place based on Brandon's boast.

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You mean not actual damage-- -by `hack' some valves just remotely opened or similar?

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No, I think he means a computer hack that led to physical pipeline damage. I've seen the pictures of the boiling sea where the gas is reaching the surface, so I don't think anyone can deny that there's evidence of physical damage to the pipeline.

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Agreed. But I meant did he mean somehow triggering an overload, or to use an analogy from railroads -- mucking with controls where two converging trains are on the same track. A forced failure so to speak.

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ShinerAggie said:

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titan said:

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Still think it was a computer hack in place based on Brandon's boast.

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You mean not actual damage-- -by `hack' some valves just remotely opened or similar?

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No, I think he means a computer hack that led to physical pipeline damage. I've seen the pictures of the boiling sea where the gas is reaching the surface, so I don't think anyone can deny that there's evidence of physical damage to the pipeline.

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Agreed. But I meant did he mean somehow triggering an overload, or to use an analogy from railroads -- mucking with controls where two converging trains are on the same track. A forced failure so to speak.

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Yes, I think that's exactly what he meant.

ShinerAggie said:

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Smeghead4761 said:

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Best layman level explanation I've seen.

https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/09/nordstream.html

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Idk. That guy doesn't sound very technical for someone who grew up in oilfields. Specifically, methane will not explode or combust without an oxidizer, and he should know that.

I do think the hypothesis of a methane hydrate plug getting launched and rupturing the line is plausible, but we're talking a physical breach, not an explosion. I admit I might be overly critical here, but unless air entered the line in large enough quantities to cross the lower flammability limit, an explosion did not occur.

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i was wondering where the heat and oxygen was coming from in that explanation.

So, if the Brits did it, how does Russia respond?

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74OA said:

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Here's a solid explanation of who likely did it, how and why.

Scroll to 12-minute mark. Analyst has heavy accent but is worth listening to.

LEAKS

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74OA - You are WAY over thinking this. As are the men on the video you linked. Biden gave Putin notice back in February this would be the sanction if he invaded Ukraine. He's on camera saying so:


And it wasn't him speaking off the cuff. Here's Under Secretary of State Victoria Nulan saying pretty much the same thing before Biden said it, in January:

.@UnderSecStateP Victoria Nuland: “If Russia invades Ukraine, one way or another, Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.” pic.twitter.com/hEGBrx6HJj

— Department of State (@StateDept) January 27, 2022

And this series of posts give insight into how it was done:
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3323179/replies/63107107

So the Who Done It is pretty obvious to anyone who is even remotely objective in their analysis. Either the U.S. did it, or the U.S. trained and provided the expertise and equimpment for Ukrainian operatives to do it so we could maintain plausible deniability (If the U.S. actually did it on our own, it would almost certainly constitute an act of war.)

Tucker's segment (posted either earlier in this thread or another thread on this topic) does a good job laying it all out.

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Must be Putin's fan club claiming the USA was behind the pipeline leaks.

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I think it's more like Joe Biden doing what he said would be done.

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No way it's the US.

Everything pointing to RUSSIA

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You guys 1) refusing to take Biden at his word and 2) drawing irrational conclusions are almost comical.

Why would Russia blow up the pipeline used to transport Russian gas to European markets, costing Russia and Russian companies 100s of Millions of Dollars every day??

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Well, well, well. What do we have here??!! Another day, another "conspiracy theory" proven to be truth. Biden gave the order to blow up Nordstream.

How will Russia respond to this Act of War??

Why weren't questions about this raised by the press corp at the White House following Seymour Hersh's stunning revelations? https://t.co/Eq9Fx46IC5

— Dr Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) February 10, 2023

>BREAKING<

The US Govt blew up the Nord Stream 2 pipelines. Seymour Hersh, one of the most decorated and impactful journalists of our time reveals that US Navy divers planted explosives at the Nord Stream pipelines under the cover of NATO exercises. https://t.co/luPKcGUgbP

— Kim Dotcom (@KimDotcom) February 8, 2023

What the hell is going on here? This was known in February and... nothing? USA (Biden) blew up Nordstream and nothing happens??

What is going on? What planet is this? This is crazy!! What will Russia do? Is war inevitable? Good Lord, this country is run by evil *******s. And the media just ignores it. Like the paid propagandists they are.