Not if you've actually paid attention to what has been admitted to and leaked videos dating as far back as 2004 displaying maneuverability that breaks our understanding of flight and physics. see "tic-tac" and "gimble" videos that came out in 2017. Also see the metallic orbs in various videos coming out of war-zones videoed by government assets and released from government sources. The claim that it was exclusively American tech that China has gotten their hands on and is now doing a show of force over the east coast is not exactly what I'd call alien stuff.

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Not if you've actually paid attention to what has been admitted to and leaked videos dating as far back as 2004 displaying maneuverability that breaks our understanding of flight and physics. see "tic-tac" and "gimble" videos that came out in 2017. Also see the metallic orbs in various videos coming out of war-zones videoed by government assets and released from government sources. The claim that it was exclusively American tech that China has gotten their hands on and is now doing a show of force over the east coast is not exactly what I'd call alien stuff.

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The first detection of gravitation waves happened in 2015. The team won the Nobel Prize in Physics for it in 2017. You may not know it, but by saying there was aircraft in 2004 using gravity propulsion, you are by default talking about alien stuff.

I'm well aware of the gravitational wave detection. LIGO upgraded in 2015 detected the waves shortly after completed upgrades.

The only thing giving me pause as to just dismissing most of Livelsberger's claims is the number and higher position of rank that were/are squealing. Army Chief of Staff? CID? That usually means someone is over target.

This may be a shortened version.

🚨 BREAKING: On the Shawn Ryan Show, Sam Shoemate revealed the Las Vegas Cybertruck Bomber emailed him before the attack.

The bomber claimed the U.S. and China had “gravitic propulsion systems” and alleged FBI surveillance.
pic.twitter.com/w3igRUz1fW

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) January 3, 2025

Yet you think it was possible that in 2004 the US government had vehicles that used gravitational propulsion?

This is bizarre https://t.co/6v3kGAf2nS

— ALX 🇺🇸 (@alx) January 3, 2025

Isn't Proton Mail an encrypted communication system?

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The only thing giving me pause as to just dismissing most of Livelsberger's claims is the number and higher position of rank that were/are squealing. Army Chief of Staff? CID? That usually means someone is over target.

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Perhaps 4D chess. The Afghanistan drone coverup could be real, and his objective is to blow that open. Add on the scifi stuff because it's popular and grabs more attention to get more people paying attention and looking into it.

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Isn't Proton Mail an encrypted communication system?

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Per some other government scandal the last couple of years (there have been so many, I forget which one), YES.

I have no clue what the vehicles were or from where the tech came from. But I do know that the black budget stuff far outstrips the stuff that the civilian world as any idea about.

Anecdotal I know but my ex-father in law worked for TI his whole career. Much of that he spent in a department that handled government work. He personally told me about TB hard drives they had developed for the government in the 80's. First civilian commercially available TB hard drive as best I can tell was in the early 2000's. Now that is far from such advanced tech as we are discussing, but it shows the point that we do not know the capabilities that hide in the black budgets.

You can also see patents from the Navy et al dating back a couple of decades for devices that for lack of better terms are "warp drive" type technology.

seems like this guy had serious psychological problems, most were likely deserved from PTSD and it finally caught up to him and he started to become erratic and paranoid

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This sounds like a message from someone having a breakdown over his wife leaving him, imho.

He didn't have a massive VBIED, and seems to have built a pathetic one.

He was chatting with his ex-girlfriend on text as well.

Nothing indicates those (NJ) drones compliant with lighting requirements and observing US airspace requirements were being launched from Chinese subs. As a 'show of force' they are pretty pathetic. The Chinese also don't have a long range sub force that can deploy to the North Atlantic, let alone sustain that for months.

It smells like…BS to me.

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Aren't modern subs almost impossible to track/detect?

Not saying Shawn Ryan is an infallible source, but this is a pretty bold proclamation. His future credibility could hinge entirely on this:

Shawn Ryan makes me feel like I’m in the middle of an intense Netflix series that’s about to have an insane season finale pic.twitter.com/s8jFiDAGvn

— Will Compton (@_willcompton) January 3, 2025

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Yet you think it was possible that in 2004 the US government had vehicles that used gravitational propulsion?

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“Yes, we will outlaw math if necessary.”pic.twitter.com/1oM3oHQjPE

— Stephen Pimentel (@StephenPiment) December 16, 2024

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seems like this guy had serious psychological problems, most were likely deserved from PTSD and it finally caught up to him and he started to become erratic and paranoid

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But no one who knew him for years and worked with him saw any issues such as those.

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In a sane world, Shawn Ryan would lose viewers for running crap like this

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in today's world you get cool points for aligning yourself to theories further from reality to flex how much of a free thinker you are

I like him but he's going over the edge, imho, on this. Hell, he was SF and went over the edge too, after all, and barely made it back. I hesitate to throw out 'Alex Jones' but that is what this sounds like, to me.

Very capable, well trained, very smart people can psychologically break. It sucks, but it's true. And no, subs aren't invisible. We track what China builds precisely as far as subs. Hell, they had one in new build sink just last year or so I think. They are capable, but far from some sort of undetectable global power with them.

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In a sane world, Shawn Ryan would lose viewers for running crap like this

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Yeah. Coupled with his claims about hiding out with his family for a few days this just screams media promo and trying to get views

He's kinda in a weird spot though. He really did get that email a day before the attack. Doesn't mean the guy was who actually sent it but it seems like something he has to publicize.

Alleged Matthew Livelsberger Email@SRS_jeremy

Image 2@samosaur told @ShawnRyan762 the person who contacted him went through great detail to hide thier IP address by using encrypted communications like signal, VPN's, and ProtonMail. Yet, a name is given and he provides "bona… pic.twitter.com/Q36Nb7yGHV

— Matt Tardio (@angertab) January 3, 2025

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Alleged Matthew Livelsberger Email
@SRS_jeremy

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@samosaur told @ShawnRyan762 the person who contacted him went through great detail to hide thier IP address by using encrypted communications like signal, VPN's, and ProtonMail. Yet, a name is given and he provides "bona fides" that can be located with public records. So to be clear, they wanted @samosaur to get the message and believe it was Matt, but not be able to trace where it was sent from.

There is several indicators that this author is not who they say they are. The email references "USFORA" several times. This refers to US Forces Afghanistan. Green Beret teams (ODA's) fell under SOTF-A, or Special Operations Task Force Afghanistan. Here we see an issue. Someone who understands the language, but is missing the minor details.

Additionally, USFOR-A was HIGHLY known for denying airstrikes if ANY civilians were present. Even under Trump with a different set of ROE's while fighting ISIS-K, civilian casualties were a major concern for SOTF-A; USFOR-A would have crapped their pants.

"6 minutes" to scramble "all aircraft in CENTCOM" is laughable. Especially for someone with his experience. CENTCOM stretches across Iran, Iraq, Syria, etc. This is frankly absurd.

I can confirm that Matt was in Southern Afghanistan that year, however I believe the Province to be incorrect. I'm waiting on confirmation.

After speaking with several people familiar with Matt and his experience with drones, we can confidently say he was a novice and had just started his career in that field. For him to have an understanding of new propulsion technology is also unbelievable. I was also assured he did not have access to that information.

Image 1
Screen shot of someone pretending to be a Green Beret associated with Livelsberger in December of 2024. Notice the lack or an "s" on "swamp" and "mountain". Rangers will refer to it as swamp phase, mountains, or mountain phase. This person has a good understanding of the English language, but the colloquial understanding does not exist.

So the question is, if not him. Who and why?

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Following this SRS stuff. Absolutely wild.

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Following this SRS stuff. Absolutely wild.

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Big claims to make, if bogus. Could sink a career, or get visit from govt

https://www.newsweek.com/matthew-livelsbergers-wife-jennifer-davis-left-him-before-vegas-bombing-2009190

Matthew Livelsberger's wife broke up with him just days before he blew up a Tesla Cybertruck outside President-elect Donald Trump's Las Vegas hotel on Wednesday, according to a newspaper.
The soldier's wife, believed to be Jennifer Anne Davis, accused him of cheating, and after an argument, he left his home in Colorado Springs the day after Christmas, said the New York Post, citing unnamed law enforcement contacts.

LVPD had a presser where they confirmed the authenticity of the email??

And that DNA and dental records matched

Per LVPD latest press conference re Matthew Livensberger:

* Tesla engineers found that “at no time was the vehicle in self-drive mode.”

* Coroner states self-inflicted shot entered mouth, leaving left side of head.

* DNA samples from family members & dental records from DoD… pic.twitter.com/hSvRp7OzDG

— 🇺🇸ProudArmyBrat (@leslibless) January 3, 2025

Found notes in his phone

CNN posting statements from LVPD said to be found on his phone that speak to motive. pic.twitter.com/j8SNzSlPCx

— John Lambert (@johnlambert) January 3, 2025

I got no issue with Shawn Ryan putting it out there and letting people decide.

Shawn will even apologize if wrong.

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seems like this guy had serious psychological problems, most were likely deserved from PTSD and it finally caught up to him and he started to become erratic and paranoid

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It happens that way. I had a solid junior enlisted guy deploy with me in 2010. Great Trooper, solid dude. About a year and a half after we get home he goes AWOL from drill for a couple months. (National Guard). We recover him, and he hasn't cut his hair or nails in 2 months, and is completely paranoid and raving about all sorts of crazy ***** We get him to behavioral health. He's there for a while, gets released, and disappears. Next thing we know, he's dead. His brother (active duty) came home on leave, and they committed suicide together in their grandmother's back yard. His brother was reportedly a stellar soldier as well.

Full Disclosure | Special Forces Intel Leak

Yesterday I made a post about a Green Beret's personal information being obtained by an unauthorized third party. That information was then used to contact me while pretending to be a different Green Beret who I had served with.

The… pic.twitter.com/WJAlYnSx0E

— Matt Tardio (@angertab) January 3, 2025

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Full Disclosure | Special Forces Intel Leak

Yesterday I made a post about a Green Beret's personal information being obtained by an unauthorized third party. That information was then used to contact me while pretending to be a different Green Beret who I had served with.

The impersonated Green Beret was also associated with Matthew Livelsberger (as was I).

I was one of the first Green Berets to enter Ukraine in 2015. I was contacted by the FSB face to face. My information was compromised. After returning state side I was heading out on my next mission a few months later. The day I was going wheels up, my family began receiving death threats from ISIS. For obvious reasons, I delayed my trip.

A week later I flew out. At overseas airports, I was pulled out of security lines before even reaching the scanner. I eventually made it to my destination unscathed.

Last month on the Speak The Truth Podcast, I announced I was going to travel to Ukraine to enter Kursk and document the dead North Korean Soldiers. A few days later, my wife fell ill with an undiagnosed neurological condition to which she was hospitalized for about a week. Within 24 hours of being released from the hospital, I was contacted by someone else impersonating another Green Beret. Whoever was contacting me had personal identifiable information even though we (our community) confirmed it wasn't them. My wife still has issues with walking and was laid up on the couch for the last two days.

I have been speaking with people close to Matt and his work. This morning I disclosed information about his Signal information changing following his death. Today, after Shawn Ryan announced the email/manifesto, more changes were discovered.

Matt was not the most robotics-savvy person. In fact, his first official training on soldering and drones was this fall. In Signal chats designed for UAV users, Matt was known for asking basic questions. By December he seemed familiar, but still not an expert. He was a beginner at drones and robotics but interested and enjoyed them. Now the messages that bring his competency into question have been deleted at an unknown time.

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I have no clue what the vehicles were or from where the tech came from. But I do know that the black budget stuff far outstrips the stuff that the civilian world as any idea about.

Anecdotal I know but my ex-father in law worked for TI his whole career. Much of that he spent in a department that handled government work. He personally told me about TB hard drives they had developed for the government in the 80's. First civilian commercially available TB hard drive as best I can tell was in the early 2000's. Now that is far from such advanced tech as we are discussing, but it shows the point that we do not know the capabilities that hide in the black budgets.

You can also see patents from the Navy et al dating back a couple of decades for devices that for lack of better terms are "warp drive" type technology.

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I don't think this helps your argument the way you think it does.
The same government went from TB hard drives (no telling how physically large these were) to gravitational propulsion vehicles in about 20 years?

I'm ba'ack! The libs tried to kill me, and I spent 10 days in the ICU, but whew! I'm back!

Sorry for not replying to the comments from my pre-almost-death picture. After what I went through, I looked nothing like what I posted.

Anyway, they don't want electrogravitics to be known (from four years ago):

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/01/breaking-fbi-says-they-have-strong-evidence-email/

Everything about Ukraine has a stench to me. I note that there was an AP News article yesterday about the Vegas bomber having 'served in Ukraine.' It (as a nation-state or regime, whatever) is a disaster of various intelligence agencies/deceptions.

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Yet you think it was possible that in 2004 the US government had vehicles that used gravitational propulsion?

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“Yes, we will outlaw math if necessary.”pic.twitter.com/1oM3oHQjPE

— Stephen Pimentel (@StephenPiment) December 16, 2024

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Notice a key difference between the technologies. AI currently exists. In the video the tech VC is claiming the government is planning to seize control of this existing technology after a lot of advancement has been made to use it how they want and stunt further advancement. In the case of gravitation propulsion they would have done all of the major detection & innovation. Until 2015 it was theory, and many highly regarded physicists' life work. Widely accepted, but not tangibly proven. At least until I guess the government decided to let physicists detect gravity waves in 2015 in your version of events?

Before this turns into a drone thread, is it fair to say this was a paranoid reaction from a mental breakdown?