Urban Ag said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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mallen said:

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Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.

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We just watched POTUS attempt to extort Zelensky on National television in the presence of Russian state media "journalists" while the AP and Reuters were banned.

I mean this is a new low, even for Trump. Disgusting and childish are adjectives that won't get TexAgs word filtered. Beyond the incredulous treatment of AN ALLY, he literally went on a HUNTER BIDENS LAPTOP detour.

This is abominable.

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"You're gambling with World War III..." Trump said.

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WTF is he on about? Does he make that same accusation against Putin, the guy who actually started this war, by launching an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine? Why is the country defending itself the one being accused of "gambling with World War III"?

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Although I have wasted a lot of time today reading this thread I would genuinely like to thank you and the other unhinged libs melting down on F16 today. This thread has genuinely been one of the more entertaining I have read in quite some time.

Keep it coming.

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rootube said:

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Zelenskyy isn't very smart. His ego is going to get more of his countrymen and women killed for no reason. He can't possibly win the war. The US needs to discontinue any and all aid and assistance. Let Ukraine go it alone with/without europes help.

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For no reason??? Russia attacked their country and committed war crimes in the process. What better reason exists than to defend your country?

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rootube said:

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I disagree. The US was offering Ukraine basically nothing. If you are Zelenskyy, why kiss the ring if there is nothing in it for you? His approval rating at home and in Europe probably went through the roof. Time will tell if that's enough to finish off Russia.

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I would hardly call what we've given Ukraine for the past few years "nothing". Ukraine isn't entitled to anything from the U.S. at this point. If Z would rather scoff at the one nation willing to give him significant aid to score points at home, then good luck to him making it work with what he has...because today's display isn't going to sell more Americans on supporting them.

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Zelenskyy needed security guarantees. Johnson already said there would be no new aid. This deal only offered vague details on how the US could recover its original investment. What about that makes Ukraine more secure? Russia has already violated two agreements, what on earth would make you think Putin would keep this deal backed by undeveloped mineral rights?

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Psycho Bunny said:

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Psycho Bunny said:

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Anyone who supports Ukraine and supports Zalenskky go stand with the dems. It was Zalenskky who campaigned with the dems. So any Ag who says we need to stand with Ukraine and Zelenskky, you are a Democrat.

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So you're saying we should stand with Russia?

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ITS NOT OUR FIGHT.
F RUSSIA F UKRAINE.
LET THEM FIGURE IT OUT. So sick of the Ukraine flag waving morons that feel it's our problem. ITS NOT.

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You and countless others have made it quite clear that no matter how bad something is, as long as 'libs' are crying, it must be good.

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Jay@AgsReward.com said:

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It is amazing that a country invades a sovereign country and we are on the side of the invaders. That is the heart of the matter and it is disturbing.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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He's a hero because when the entire western world was making plans to give Ukraine to Russia and was negotiating his exile. He held his country together

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I hope he's searching real estate brochures for where he's going to spend his exile now.

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Maybe. The last time the experts planned his exile he proceeded to whip Russia's a**.

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I mean, did he though? He bilked a ton of money from US taxpayers, but Russia won't be leaving Ukraine.

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• "I was in those meetings, and Gorbachev has [also] said there was no promise not to enlarge NATO," Zoellick recalls. Soviet Foreign Minister, Eduard Shevardnadze, later president of Georgia, concurred, he says. Nor does the treaty on Germany's unification include a limit on NATO enlargement. Those facts have undermined one of Russian President Vladimir Putin's justifications for invading Ukraine that the United States had agreed that former Warsaw Pact nations would never become part of the North Atlantic security alliance.

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I disagree. The US was offering Ukraine basically nothing. If you are Zelenskyy, why kiss the ring if there is nothing in it for you? His approval rating at home and in Europe probably went through the roof. Time will tell if that's enough to finish off Russia.

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I would hardly call what we've given Ukraine for the past few years "nothing". Ukraine isn't entitled to anything from the U.S. at this point. If Z would rather scoff at the one nation willing to give him significant aid to score points at home, then good luck to him making it work with what he has...because today's display isn't going to sell more Americans on supporting them.

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Zelenskyy needed security guarantees. Johnson already said there would be no new aid. This deal only offered vague details on how the US could recover its original investment. What about that makes Ukraine more secure? Russia has already violated two agreements, what on earth would make you think Putin would keep this deal backed by undeveloped mineral rights?

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After 3 years of this mess, it's clear that no matter what amount of money we send...it's not making Ukraine any more secure. At some point we have to think about our interests instead of being pushed for more and more and more.

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rootube said:

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newbie11 said:

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Zelenskyy isn't very smart. His ego is going to get more of his countrymen and women killed for no reason. He can't possibly win the war. The US needs to discontinue any and all aid and assistance. Let Ukraine go it alone with/without europes help.

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For no reason??? Russia attacked their country and committed war crimes in the process. What better reason exists than to defend your country?

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Who's saying he's wrong for defending his country?

He's wrong for not trying to do what he can to work a peace deal when the alternative is worse for Ukraine in terms of lives lost and very likely territory as well. Ukraine is running out of people willing to fight, and they're relying on other countries, the US specifically, for equipment to fight.

The Ukrainians have fought bravely and well… and are inevitably going to lose, and the loss is going to cost them much more than the peace deal will.

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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Urban Ag said:

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Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.

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We just watched POTUS attempt to extort Zelensky on National television in the presence of Russian state media "journalists" while the AP and Reuters were banned.

I mean this is a new low, even for Trump. Disgusting and childish are adjectives that won't get TexAgs word filtered. Beyond the incredulous treatment of AN ALLY, he literally went on a HUNTER BIDENS LAPTOP detour.

This is abominable.

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"You're gambling with World War III..." Trump said.

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WTF is he on about? Does he make that same accusation against Putin, the guy who actually started this war, by launching an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine? Why is the country defending itself the one being accused of "gambling with World War III"?

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Although I have wasted a lot of time today reading this thread I would genuinely like to thank you and the other unhinged libs melting down on F16 today. This thread has genuinely been one of the more entertaining I have read in quite some time.

Keep it coming.

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Yes, I know nothing matters as long as it "owns the libs." You and countless others have made it quite clear that no matter how bad something is, as long as 'libs' are crying, it must be good.

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How bad is ending a war and saving taxpayer money?

Please tell me why that's so awful.

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For all you endless war proponents: Did you know there are many armed conflicts going on around the globe that involve one country occupying another's land? You don't care about the territorial integrity of the non-Uke "sovereign nations". The US should engage when it's of benefit to the US. If the Euros want to fund the perpetual stalemate then let them. We've given enough for a lost cause that has zero effect on us.

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But it is making a difference...Putin hasn't captured Kiev. Russia is ACTIVELY attempting to annex a sovereign allied nation and our support in the form of munitions and old equipment is enough to stalemate the entire attack. Russia is bleeding out financially and literally (they are running out of soldiers and have to beg NK for troops). They would love to negotiate a "cease fire" where they get to keep the land they captured, regroup, and prepare for the next phase of the invasion. WE CANNOT LET THAT HAPPEN unless we are prepared to continue further support if they try again.

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So Russia is bleeding out and running out of troops...but they're totally going to invade again and again unless the U.S. gives Ukraine everything they ask for. That makes no sense.

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Yukon Cornelius said:

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If we did would that make invading them, a sovereign nation, under 100% false pretenses and killing a million Iraqis better?

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aggiehawg said:

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WHOA! Is this being reported anywhere else?

🇺🇦 BREAKING: Ukrainian MP Oleksandr Dubinsky just called for an Emergency Session of Ukraine’s Parliament to initiate IMPEACHMENT Proceedings against President Zelensky after the Oval Office shouting match.

This is HUGE. Zelensky’s Regime is collapsing in real time. pic.twitter.com/cWE0m5be6s

— Cillian (@CilComLFC) February 28, 2025

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BQ78 said:

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Why do you want the Russian military decimated? When did you expect them to be a problem for the US?

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Psycho Bunny said:

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Everyone on here worried about Russia, are not paying attention to the other large country that starts with the letter C and ends with the letter A. Russia hasn't been a threat since the 80s. The real threat comes feom the country that makes your TV, microwaves, cellphones, clothes, and oh by the way, the same country that gave us a pandemic. But by all means let's be afraid of little ol Russia.

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Gigem314 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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WHOA! Is this being reported anywhere else?

🇺🇦 BREAKING: Ukrainian MP Oleksandr Dubinsky just called for an Emergency Session of Ukraine’s Parliament to initiate IMPEACHMENT Proceedings against President Zelensky after the Oval Office shouting match.

This is HUGE. Zelensky’s Regime is collapsing in real time. pic.twitter.com/cWE0m5be6s

— Cillian (@CilComLFC) February 28, 2025

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They could always borrow Al Green...calling for impeachment is his specialty.

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