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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 8:25p, 3/2/25
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:
LOL at Zelenskyy for showing up at the WH dressed like a custom character from Call of Duty.

Dude rolled in thinking because he was an entertainer he could go tit for tat with Trump (and Vance for that matter).

Wtf, over.


Somebody finally calls the dude out on this. This ain't a video game. Show up, and dress the part.

This is crazy, Guy thinks he's a comic book character. The more that come out about all this the more insane it is.

Zenensky showing up and coming at Trump makes about as much sense as the guy that tried to mess with Mike Tyson on a plane and got knocked out.

Z been drinking his own kool-aid. He thinks he a character in a movie. Such a wild scene that it makes you wonder if he MK-Ultra'ed.

Never seen anything like this guy.

An unbelievable course of events.


How do you feel about people showing up to Cabinet Meetings in Tech Support tshirts and ball caps?
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How do you feel about people showing up to Cabinet Meetings in Tech Support tshirts and ball caps?
Is the press corps there with cameras filming? Do they go argue with Trump and/or Vance? You're comparing apples & oranges.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 8:31p, 3/2/25
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The EU phonies live to post on X how much they stand with Ukraine but when it comes down to the nut cutting they run and hide.


Trump knows this. So let's set back at see if the do more than talk the talk. Right now on CSPAN the British House of Commons of the UK is arguing about Ukraine and they are split over how supportive they will actually be. Starmer is trying to show them how much it will cost them to do what the US has been doing for years and the members are acting shocked. Completely out of touch with reality by the members and Starmer is pissing in the wind.
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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In reply to ATM9000 • 8:32p, 3/2/25
ATM9000 said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
LOL at Zelenskyy for showing up at the WH dressed like a custom character from Call of Duty.

Dude rolled in thinking because he was an entertainer he could go tit for tat with Trump (and Vance for that matter).

Wtf, over.


Somebody finally calls the dude out on this. This ain't a video game. Show up, and dress the part.

This is crazy, Guy thinks he's a comic book character. The more that come out about all this the more insane it is.

Zenensky showing up and coming at Trump makes about as much sense as the guy that tried to mess with Mike Tyson on a plane and got knocked out.

Z been drinking his own kool-aid. He thinks he a character in a movie. Such a wild scene that it makes you wonder if he MK-Ultra'ed.

Never seen anything like this guy.

An unbelievable course of events.
How do you feel about people showing up to Cabinet Meetings in Tech Support tshirts and ball caps?
I'm ok with it.

Elon autistic so it's a reasonable accommodation.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 8:59p, 3/2/25
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:
infinity ag said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
LOL at Zelenskyy for showing up at the WH dressed like a custom character from Call of Duty.

Dude rolled in thinking because he was an entertainer he could go tit for tat with Trump (and Vance for that matter).

Wtf, over.


Somebody finally calls the dude out on this. This ain't a video game. Show up, and dress the part.

This is crazy, Guy thinks he's a comic book character. The more that come out about all this the more insane it is.

Zenensky showing up and coming at Trump makes about as much sense as the guy that tried to mess with Mike Tyson on a plane and got knocked out.

Z been drinking his own kool-aid. He thinks he a character in a movie. Such a wild scene that it makes you wonder if he MK-Ultra'ed.

Never seen anything like this guy.

An unbelievable course of events.
It's his choice what he wears. He doesn't have to wear what you want him to wear.


Zelensky owns a suit but just made a conscious choice not to show up in it.

Got a little too casual with Trump and Vance. Maybe a suit would've kept him grounded, but we'll never know.

Iirc he wore suits pretty much right up until the invasion by the Russians in 2022. Then the switch to wearing what he wore to the White House happened then. One could say that there was a conscious choice to… set the stage in a way.
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Yeah, he's always protrayed himself as the president that fights on the front lines. Him wearing a suit messes with that image.
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9:03p, 3/2/25
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Zylenskyy is a comedian turned clown. He ripped his britches then crapped his pants ala His hero, Joe Biden. America cannot trust Zelensky. Time to get his lying butt off the stage. America should not put a plug nickel in his pocket.

I am glad all the heads of states in Europe are running to his aid to prop his worthless ass up. Where were all his little buddies the last three years? Now the UK wants to work a cease fire deal with Putin. The little imp,while in the White House, opened his mouth and said Putin already violated 24 previous ceasefires, and that Putin was untrustworthy? Now starmer and UK are trying to work out a CEASEFIRE and are begging the US to help. Zylensky is sitting there like an organ grinders little. Monkey with a shat eating grin on his face. Now It's okay? What the hell changed Z?

By all means Europe y'all get on over to Moscow en mass and work a ceasefire deal with Putin and get this thing over with. Why didn't they try that when Pants pooper Biden was President? He could have gone with them and saved America 350 billion dollars!

The kicker to the deal is no European leader wants to commit troops to be lost in the Ukraine meat grinder. On top of that the EU munitions are sub par and lacking in quantity. The money to run the Ukrainian sh@t SHow is not there either, nobody in the EU wants to finance that loser.

And Why the hell hasn't the EU been gearing up the munitions production facilities the last 3 years? The great Ogre Putin was on their front door steps. They didn't see that coming? Must have been that ol' let America do it lazy ass response.

Well now EU, the ball is in your court take it and run with it. We will get our popcorn ready and see how far it gets you. And don't come crying to us. If you absolutely have to, lose the little monkey first. He's not welcome in
The Oval Office!
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In reply to mallen • 9:09p, 3/2/25
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mallen said:
Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.
Its. Even 3 days - did you figure out the game yet?

Trump and Vance are the heroes - not only for America, but the whole free world.

The deal saves Ukraine. Yah, it probably concedes some land, but it halts the war. They trade some minerals for the debt they've run up on the American taxpayer's tab, but they don't get into NATO. American presence in Ukraine saves them from further Russian pressure. WW3 is averted.

Zelensky is the (ingrateful) imbecile.

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In reply to ATM9000 • 9:17p, 3/2/25
ATM9000 said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
LOL at Zelenskyy for showing up at the WH dressed like a custom character from Call of Duty.

Dude rolled in thinking because he was an entertainer he could go tit for tat with Trump (and Vance for that matter).

Wtf, over.


Somebody finally calls the dude out on this. This ain't a video game. Show up, and dress the part.

This is crazy, Guy thinks he's a comic book character. The more that come out about all this the more insane it is.

Zenensky showing up and coming at Trump makes about as much sense as the guy that tried to mess with Mike Tyson on a plane and got knocked out.

Z been drinking his own kool-aid. He thinks he a character in a movie. Such a wild scene that it makes you wonder if he MK-Ultra'ed.

Never seen anything like this guy.

An unbelievable course of events.


How do you feel about people showing up to Cabinet Meetings in Tech Support tshirts and ball caps?


Two totally separate things. We are talking Embassy 101 stuff. Everytime I go into an Embassy…..you bet your sweet arse I am wearing a suit when I am on US Govt business in a foreign land.


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In reply to Old RV Ag • 9:18p, 3/2/25
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Old RV Ag said:
Heineken-Ashi said:
Old RV Ag said:
usmcbrooks said:
mallen said:
Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.


You and the 95 who starred this nonsense, send me your addresses. I'll purchase y'all one way airfare so you can go live with your hero.
Send me your address and I'll send you a one way first class ticket to your motherland Russia so you can live with your hero.
Why are the war proponents the ones sounding the most emotional?
I served in Vietnam with the 5th SFG and did things for this country most can't even image. Was wounded twice. Please don't call me a war proponent or emotional. Russia will never be our friend and they have the most sophisticated and complex network for disinformation.

So, blah, blah, blah with all the "election has consequences," spewing Russian propaganda, etc. Yes, Zelensky isn't a clean guy at all. But, neither were our South Vietnamese "allies" - but they were better than the Soviet backed North.


Nobody expects them to be our friend, but all parties need to act civil and respectful to get to the table and talk peace. Peace is the objective, not a coalition.
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Funky Winkerbean said:
Old RV Ag said:
Heineken-Ashi said:
Old RV Ag said:
usmcbrooks said:
mallen said:
Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.


You and the 95 who starred this nonsense, send me your addresses. I'll purchase y'all one way airfare so you can go live with your hero.
Send me your address and I'll send you a one way first class ticket to your motherland Russia so you can live with your hero.
Why are the war proponents the ones sounding the most emotional?
I served in Vietnam with the 5th SFG and did things for this country most can't even image. Was wounded twice. Please don't call me a war proponent or emotional. Russia will never be our friend and they have the most sophisticated and complex network for disinformation.

So, blah, blah, blah with all the "election has consequences," spewing Russian propaganda, etc. Yes, Zelensky isn't a clean guy at all. But, neither were our South Vietnamese "allies" - but they were better than the Soviet backed North.


Nobody expects them to be our friend, but all parties need to act civil and respectful to get to the table and talk peace. Peace is the objective, not a coalition.
Guess someone thought that I was a little rough first response. So, I'll try to be a little softer. How about we not worry about civil and respectful. No negotiations to end a war are all warm and fuzzy. In fact, they are extremely contentious.
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In reply to Old RV Ag • 10:10p, 3/2/25
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Old RV Ag said:
Heineken-Ashi said:
Old RV Ag said:
usmcbrooks said:
mallen said:
Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.


You and the 95 who starred this nonsense, send me your addresses. I'll purchase y'all one way airfare so you can go live with your hero.
Send me your address and I'll send you a one way first class ticket to your motherland Russia so you can live with your hero.
Why are the war proponents the ones sounding the most emotional?
I served in Vietnam with the 5th SFG and did things for this country most can't even image. Was wounded twice. Please don't call me a war proponent or emotional. Russia will never be our friend and they have the most sophisticated and complex network for disinformation.

So, blah, blah, blah with all the "election has consequences," spewing Russian propaganda, etc. Yes, Zelensky isn't a clean guy at all. But, neither were our South Vietnamese "allies" - but they were better than the Soviet backed North.



Thank you for serving our country, especially at a time when our country was so torn over what we were trying to accomplish and whom we were fighting for.

One thing I find especially ironic is that the folks that would have called you a baby killer when you returned home are now the ones telling us not to ask too many questions about what we are doing in Ukraine. You won't find many allies of Putin among Trump's supporters. That said, what some of us would like to see is a little more accounting of the funds and supplies we sent and are still being asked to send, some accountability from the leadership, and perhaps a little more gratitude from the guy that comes over here every six months, swings his dick around, and preaches to Americans about patriotism. It would also help if we saw a little more initiative from our NATO friends who have been living off of American exceptionalism while badmouthing us to the rest of the world for the last 80 years.
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10:12p, 3/2/25
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mallen, way to cover for your marxists buddies.
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In reply to Definitely Not A Cop • 10:16p, 3/2/25
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Yeah, he's always protrayed himself as the president that fights on the front lines. Him wearing a suit messes with that image.
Zelenskyy is an actor after all.

Hair, make-up, wardrobe, rehearsed lines.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 11:00p, 3/2/25
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LOL at Zelenskyy for showing up at the WH dressed like a custom character from Call of Duty.
Thank You for that description.

For the past three years, I've been thinking of a way to describe Zelenskyy's cosplay outfit that he's been LARPing in and you absolutely nailed it.
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In reply to Old RV Ag • 3:59a, 3/3/25
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Putin won't come to the table while being chastised by Zelensky, that's the point.
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4:26a, 3/3/25
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Deal's off the table.


Now the euro's confirm they won't send troops any time soon (spoiler; almost none of them have any quantity of troops to send anyway.) Chris Murphy/Susan Rice and Zelensky's dem think tank buddies can't send troops either. His hopes of widening the war somehow have yet again failed, and now he's going to get dramatically less support from the US.

Molly Hemingway posted this thought which is about 100 percent true:

Quote:
Yesterday, Susan Rice said of the Trump-Zelensky meeting, "There is no question this was a set up." She revealed full knowledge of the mineral agreement, complained that it didn't include "concrete" security agrees (meaning, apparently, commitment of US troops on the ground if conditions merit), and then mischaracterized Trump's behavior, counting on most Americans to not have watched what transpired over the entire hour in the Oval Office.

You can look at this and dismiss it as typical Democrat talking points, but you could also view it as almost a confession, one that includes details about the current "Get Trump" effort.

Yes, Trump won the popular vote against unbelievable odds, but if you think Team Obama is being any less involved in quiet insurrections than they were during the first Trump administration (Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment, etc.), you're clueless. I'll remind you that Susan Rice was in the small Jan. 5, 2017 meeting in the WH with other key Russia collusion hoax perpetrators.

Zelensky repeatedly declined opportunities to sign the deal in Kyiv and Munich, and requested the meeting at the White House. It later came out that Rice and Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, and Alexander Vindman may have been personally advising Zelensky to do this meeting in the way he did -- that they recommended him to be hostile and to try to goad Trump into blowing up. Even though he didn't, and even though Zelensky's actions horrified many normal Americans, the Obama team went on the airwaves to falsely characterize what happened.

I think their goal was to have a wonderful performance by Zelensky, an angry Trump appearing to scuttle the deal, and the support of the neocon portion of the GOP to start applying pressure on Trump to have US Troop commitments as part of the "security guarantee." It was a set-up, in Susan Rice's interesting choice of words.

Instead, Zelensky had one of the worst stage performances of his acting career, and Trump was statesmanlike (against all odds) throughout. Zelensky followed Team Obama's advice to be hostile to a tee, but it didn't land how they thought it would. Surprisingly, one of the most important aspects of it not working out might have been Lindsay Graham's reaction. Had he and other neocons thought Zelensky was being reasonable, Trump would be having to fight (even moreso) the neocon portion of the GOP in addition to Team Obama's dirty tricks. Even the "conservative" neocon pundits on TV last night were admitting Zelensky had royally messed up.

As you can see from the hostility of the bureaucracy to any Republican oversight, no matter how reasonable or minor it may be, the entrenched bureaucracy and permanent DC apparatus is quite active. That goes quadruple for the deep state in the Intelligence Community. I'd expect more and more shenanigans and to be prepared so that you don't fall for the next information operation. The post-WWII architecture in Europe and the US needs this war to continue or be settled on "US troops on the ground" type guarantees, even though that's not what Americans want.

Things will heat up here, and it's a very dangerous time.
Zelensky's Democrat gambit turned out so badly, not just per Graham and other neocons now on Trump's side, that the world is more aligned as per polling posted by Hawg above with Trump's thoughts/efforts on the Ukrainian duplicity to end the war than before. And there's no deal on the table after Zelensky's media tour de force this weekend for the minerals, let alone peace.


He's absolutely right. More here. Team obama-biden-Hillary have left a trail of war and devastation/destruction across the globe. They need to just shut their pie holes at this point.
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In reply to Funky Winkerbean • 4:36a, 3/3/25
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Putin won't come to the table while being chastised by Zelensky, that's the point.


Precisely, funky!

This whole sh@t show is worse than an SNL skit. Z craps his chair in the Oval Office, then runs over to Europe and has a big show and photo-op with all the do nothing heads of government in Europe. Here he is America the new and improved zylensky. He'll sign the deal just send your money and munitions so Z can continue the fight for democracy against the evil Putin.

In reality the euros offered bull**** and chicken Feed. Money isn't there, technology and munitions are crap and no country in their right mind will send their troops to die for Ukraine. Keir should send his 30,000 troops immediately! That will blow things up in the in the east. What gets fcked up in Ukraine, debilitates the world. Who is your advisor kier? Chris Murphy?

Ukraine is like Gaza to the Middle East. No one wants anything to do with the Palestinians or the country. They just sit back and watch the carnage on TV and wonder when Iran goes up in smoke.

This peace deal has been screwed up beyond repair. No way in hell trump can meet with Putin with his ukranian monkey tagging along. Trump should not touch the euro cease fire with a 10 ft pole! It's a disaster in the making. Let the euros go meet with Putin and see how far they can get. Just keep America out Mr President.
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11:17a, 3/3/25
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About right. We weren't doing too well either, when we had a coke-head (Hunter) de facto running our government.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 11:44a, 3/3/25
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Seriously? Whether you like Zelinsky or not anyone being sympathetic to Putin is absolute idiot.
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Yeah no sympathy for either but if forced to pick, Zelenskyy as a comedian.
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Seriously? Whether you like Zelinsky or not anyone being sympathetic to Putin is absolute idiot.
I know, that's weird isn't it? Luntz taking a survey in that manner can lead to such results.

Like this incongruous result.


ETA: The entire post.
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A.) End all funding and support for Ukraine

B.) End all funding but continue to fully support Ukraine.

C.) Continue to support and fund Ukraine, but at a lower level.

D.) Continue to fund and support Ukraine at the current level.


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In reply to docb • 11:48a, 3/3/25
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Nevermind, Hawg beat me to it. But it's not really an 'incongruous' result. A clear majority wants to scale back funding/support for the war.
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I pick the soldiers being killed on both sides because the egos of their leaders is preventing peace.
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Funky Winkerbean said:
I pick the soldiers being killed on both sides because the egos of their leaders is preventing peace.


This doesn't make any sense since the current track leads to more death and brutality, but the weaker side loses.
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Yesterday, I went down a rabbit hole on a very long podcast about both Trump's and Zelensky's body language. Hi conclusions were much the same. Zelensky did not appear to be amenable to ending the war from the very moment he sat down.
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FWIW.

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Well, Miss Lindsay? What say you?
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Quote:
Victor Davis Hanson @VDHanson

Ten bad takeaways from the Zelenskyy blow-up

1. Zelenskyy does not grasp--or deliberately ignores--the bitter truth: those with whom he feels most affinity (Western globalists, the American Left, the Europeans) have little power in 2025 to help him. And those with whom he obviously does not like or seeks to embarrass (cf. his Scranton, Penn. campaign-like visit in September 2024) alone have the power to save him. For his own sake, I hope he is not being "briefed" by the Obama-Clinton-Biden gang to confront Trump, given their interests are not really Ukraine's as they feign.
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Waffledynamics said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
I pick the soldiers being killed on both sides because the egos of their leaders is preventing peace.


This doesn't make any sense since the current track leads to more death and brutality, but the weaker side loses.


It doesn't make any sense I don't want more people to die? Ok.
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Funky Winkerbean said:
Waffledynamics said:
Funky Winkerbean said:
I pick the soldiers being killed on both sides because the egos of their leaders is preventing peace.


This doesn't make any sense since the current track leads to more death and brutality, but the weaker side loses.


It doesn't make any sense I don't want more people to die? Ok.
If someone comes to your house kills your pet and maybe a family member, then decides to occupy a third of your home; your ok with that because you might believe the promise that the occupier who shed blood won't do it anymore and the two of you will live peacefully together while you watch them use your garden for profit?

FWIW putin has not agreed to ANY cease fire or promise to future security.
“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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How do you know that's the end scenario if peace is reached? Especially when none of the people in charge are discussing it? You make a lot of assumptions. The peace process begins when the leaders meet, but that won't happen because Zelenskyy is a child dwelling on his own ego and not the well being of his people.
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I'm not ok with it but if I can't push them out, my neighbors aren't willing to come into my house to help and risk their death or bring the war to their house, and I'm losing said neighbor's support, I might try to keep the 2/3's of the house I still have before I lose it all. (While more thousands die)
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