Good Luck today Virginia!

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BonfireNerd04
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I don't like gerrymandering, but as long as it's legal, I want the Republicans to be better at it.
Old Gorm
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In 2022, Tennessee decided to play this game the way the Democrats play it and knocked the Islamo-Fascist party down to one representative statewide.

The liberals on this board will piss themselves all day long about Texas when California and Illinois have been playing these games since Obama was Barry Choom and smoking weed at Punahou.

The GOP in control of state offices need to follow Tennessee's lead or get run over by a Democrat Party using open borders, creative gerrymandering and census falsification to carve out a corrupt majority driven to turn this nation into a globalist third world hellscape.
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aggiehawg
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will25u said:



Whoa! That's fast! Guess they decided they had enough of a record and briefing already
Tailgate88
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will25u said:




lol That second sentence is not true.
Ellis Wyatt
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Tailgate88 said:

will25u said:




lol That second sentence is not true.
Its true if their laws are ignored, which is certainly what happened with voting in Pennsylvania.

Democrat courts don't concern themselves with the law too often.
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https://thenationalpulse.com/2026/04/21/revealed-rnc-blew-va-referendum-due-to-lavish-cornyn-spending-and-misplaced-priorities/

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REVEALED: RNC Blew VA Referendum Due to Lavish Cornyn Spending and Misplaced Priorities.


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COST PER VOTE: A snap analysis by The National Pulse shows the "Yes" (Democrat) side spent $62.3 million, divided by 1,545,736 votes (at the time of publication), which comes to around $40.30 per vote. Meanwhile, the Republican "No" side spent around $20 million, divided by 1,464,548 votes, for an average of $13.66 per vote. Democrats spent three times as much per head and still only cleared 51.3 percent.


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CORNYN CALCULUS: Republicans spent roughly $95.1 million on the CornynPaxton primary in Texas. The "No" side in Virginia spent roughly $20 million. That is about five times more on a single Senate incumbent than on a referendum that could cost the party four House seats.


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THE FIRM: Virginians for Fair Maps the losing "No" campaign was run by Mike Young, a partner at FP1 Strategies, which was founded by Chris LaCivita. LaCivita is simultaneously the senior campaign consultant for the Cornyn super PAC which has spent all that money attacking Ken Paxton, and pushing Trump to endorse Cornyn, who has repeatedly stabbed the President in the back. Ninety-five million dollars went one way. Twenty million went the other. And much of it through LaCivita's own companies and partners.


The RNC sucks. They will go all out to protect useless Cornyn in the primary, but they won't spend the money needed in a major redistricting battle where they will lose 4 house seats.
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This is just criminal. Waste a ton of money on an election where odds of Republican winning are as are high as any place in the country vs what they should have done in VA.
Rapier108
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In all fairness, as was noted earlier on this thread, Trump's team is sitting on $800 million and didn't spend a penny.

None of it probably would have mattered. The Democrats would have simply manufactured just enough mail in votes to win. There is a reason why certain counties held reporting at all until the end.
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Rapier108 said:

In all fairness, as was noted earlier on this thread, Trump's team is sitting on $800 million and didn't spend a penny.

None of it probably would have mattered. The Democrats would have simply manufactured just enough mail in votes to win. There is a reason why certain counties held reporting at all until the end.


It's amazing that everyone just scoffs at this practice as if it's no big deal. Nothing sketchy about that at all. Nothing.
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Tailgate88 said:

will25u said:




lol That second sentence is not true.

I think it actually is. Apparently the justices might just care about whether the state legislature re-appoints them over the next few years/2030. DDG-AI:

I would swag they fairly quickly decide this was legally good enough (Fulton and Powell may not care, if that chart is right).
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YouBet said:

Rapier108 said:

In all fairness, as was noted earlier on this thread, Trump's team is sitting on $800 million and didn't spend a penny.

None of it probably would have mattered. The Democrats would have simply manufactured just enough mail in votes to win. There is a reason why certain counties held reporting at all until the end.


It's amazing that everyone just scoffs at this practice as if it's no big deal. Nothing sketchy about that at all. Nothing.


Many are concerned about this practice. However, half the country say it's just a conspiracy theory and nothing is happening and our elections are the fairest in the world and half would like heads to roll about election cheating. The first half do not want anything to change because their side wins. The other half just gets more frustrated that nothing is done about the cheating. Eventually those that are disgusted by the cheating just give up and stop voting because their votes don't matter.

It is incredible how the party that complains about disenfranchising most is the party that actually disenfranchises voters.
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Then we'll have to find the Federal angle and appeal to that level. Dems are lawless and don't care.
Science Denier
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CORNYN CALCULUS: Republicans spent roughly $95.1 million on the CornynPaxton primary in Texas. The "No" side in Virginia spent roughly $20 million. That is about five times more on a single Senate incumbent than on a referendum that could cost the party four House seats.

Is there a link to this? Other than this one?

Do the committee bylaws even allow for that kind of money to be spent on a PRIMARY election, being spent against another Republican?

I doubt that is true. Cornyn had a war chest and he spent a ton, but I don't think the RNC would spend that type of money.
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Science Denier said:

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CORNYN CALCULUS: Republicans spent roughly $95.1 million on the CornynPaxton primary in Texas. The "No" side in Virginia spent roughly $20 million. That is about five times more on a single Senate incumbent than on a referendum that could cost the party four House seats.

Is there a link to this? Other than this one?

Do the committee bylaws even allow for that kind of money to be spent on a PRIMARY election, being spent against another Republican?

I doubt that is true. Cornyn had a war chest and he spent a ton, but I don't think the RNC would spend that type of money.

There is also the National Republican Senatorial Committee which has separate funds. Cornyn ran the NRSC for several years, as I recall. Past favors in funding under Cornyn were called in.
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will25u said:



Isn't the Virginia Supreme Court conservative?
aggiehawg
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Anybody see or hear what happened at the oral argument?
will25u
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Democrats will lose redistricting. Just too many ways republicans can pick up seats.

will25u
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aggiehawg said:

Anybody see or hear what happened at the oral argument?




aggiehawg
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Thanks. Running down my usual rat trails were not showing anything.
nortex97
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And, Florida's response. Take those 4 back.

Some skepticism again that the VA supreme court will do 'the right thing:'

I would not predict any kind of win from the court, but would love to be proven wrong.
will25u
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So... I was finally able to piece one of the issues together(maybe I am just slow).

The early ballots in 2025 had already started arriving before the special session was convened. They were holding a special session on "Budget Issues". Then Democrats changed what the special session was for mid special session and added the redistricting to a "Budget" special session.

Then they had another vote on the redistricting this legislative session.

So VA democrats are saying election day is election day in 2025 and early voting is not during the election and so the special session can be counted as before the previous election.

A lot of people are saying that the liberal VASC will overturn the injunction.



Here is some more about the arguements.

https://www.virginiascope.com/supreme-court-hears-oral-arguments-in-redistricting-case/
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Okay, I get this person is not an attorney.

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Does the VA Supreme Court jump into the procedures of the legislature, which although several unprecedented procedures occurred, would be against normal policy for the court to do?

Does the court interpret the lack of following those procedures to have caused "harm" to the democratic process and voters rights?

Ultimately I think that even though there are clear procedural and process issues that the legislature did, I don't see the court overturning what happened.

One of the reasons state supreme courts exist is ensure the legislative and executive branches of the state follow their own state constitution. If the VA state supreme court just waves away these unconstitutional procedural issues of when and how matters are put before the voters, that would be a travesty.
nortex97
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Sure, but it's an intermingling of politics and law, as in this case the state justices are generally looking to be re-appointed by the legislature which violated the state constitution over the next few years. Voting against the Dem legislatures who clearly violated the constitution in both spirit and the letter of the law, would be contrary to their very job security.
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For those further interested, Gouveia had an audio feed of the orals today. Warning: It is long.

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The early ballots in 2025 had already started arriving before the special session was convened. They were holding a special session on "Budget Issues". Then Democrats changed what the special session was for mid special session and added the redistricting to a "Budget" special session.

Then they had another vote on the redistricting this legislative session.

So VA democrats are saying election day is election day in 2025 and early voting is not during the election and so the special session can be counted as before the previous election.

Having listened to the oral arguments now, the commonwealth took a difficult position of maintaining that a special session and a new session can coexist during the same time period.
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aggiehawg
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Short 12 minute stream that covers the oral arguments yesterday.


Having such a long early voting period is discussed. This redistricting issue was not even on the radar until over a million people had already cast their vote, then it was unveiled.
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Wait, you're saying that people voted in this election before this new redistricting measure got dropped on the ballot, basically preventing them from voting on it?

So there was basically a new ballot for those that didn't vote yet?
YouBet
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If that is true, then how in the world is that allowable? VAs disenfranchisement of voters is something to behold.
aggiehawg
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JDUB08AG said:

Wait, you're saying that people voted in this election before this new redistricting measure got dropped on the ballot, basically preventing them from voting on it?

So there was basically a new ballot for those that didn't vote yet?

No. VA law requires the state assembly pass a measure to amend the constitution. Then there needs to be another election, state assembly passes it again, then it can be put to the voters. There is also a 90 day pre-election posting requirement.

So the question is which was the first election and then which was the second election in which the voters could be presented the question under state law.

There was a special session that had been called for only budgeting issues before the 2025 election. Early voting for that election was already underway when the Special Session added the redistricting issue within their session. Commonwealth argues that since the actual election day had not occurred, the early voting didn't count as far as being the first passage. Election day itself was the requisite date.

Kind of in the weeds but to amend the state constitution should not be a quick and easy process. VA just made it quicker and easier by violating their own laws.
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Ellis Wyatt
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It is a good thing there are at least some adults on the Virginia Supreme Court.
will25u
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Now put the case on a slow simmer. Slow walk it as much as possible.

Since the VASC didn't override the lower judge that would mean they leaning that way?
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Science Denier said:

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CORNYN CALCULUS: Republicans spent roughly $95.1 million on the CornynPaxton primary in Texas. The "No" side in Virginia spent roughly $20 million. That is about five times more on a single Senate incumbent than on a referendum that could cost the party four House seats.

Is there a link to this? Other than this one?

Do the committee bylaws even allow for that kind of money to be spent on a PRIMARY election, being spent against another Republican?

I doubt that is true. Cornyn had a war chest and he spent a ton, but I don't think the RNC would spend that type of money.

They did according to Micheal Berry. And I believe it with as many ads he ran on YouTube. And it pisses me off

Now I get about 5 texts a day for money, I want to respond with why the F did you spend all your money on primaries against other Rs
 
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