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I pay the extra $2/month or whatever for windshield coverage for the car for exactly this reason.

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Yeah, so do I. I figure driving around Houston it's a matter of when, not if I use that coverage.

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Who offers this $2 monthly insurance for windshields? That sounds like a steal of a deal right now

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We have progressive and I just pulled the number out of my ass, but it was relatively cheap. Definitely not what the guy paid through Tesla.

Another video for when people think Waymo is way ahead of Tesla:

Waymo is like a Chet and Tesla a Wemby.

Sure they kind of look the same and you can do well with either for the most part. But when you put them side by side and understand the difference, it is just glaringly different.

When things fall apart, just let wemby take over. Chet needs all the support to do well.

Lars Moravy, VP of Tesla Vehicle Engineering, says the Tesla Cybercab is officially the most efficient EV ever certified at 165 Wh/mi!

That’s around 40% more efficient than a Model 3. WOW. pic.twitter.com/rAvLlJUnE9

— Nic Cruz Patane (@niccruzpatane) May 21, 2026

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Lars Moravy, VP of Tesla Vehicle Engineering, says the Tesla Cybercab is officially the most efficient EV ever certified at 165 Wh/mi!

That’s around 40% more efficient than a Model 3. WOW. pic.twitter.com/rAvLlJUnE9

— Nic Cruz Patane (@niccruzpatane) May 21, 2026

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at city speeds with the climate control turned off i've seen 165 in my 2018 3

Say “Hey Grok” to initiate a conversation with Grok in your Tesla

To dismiss Grok, simply say “Goodbye” at the end https://t.co/YfOEJKvyvN

— Tesla (@Tesla) May 20, 2026

So I didn't get a Tesla, but I did get a Silverado EV Extended Range Trail Boss. So far I'm really enjoying it. Because it's so heavy the ride is phenomenal. It'll go through some nasty mud and because it's so quite it makes a great night hunting vehicle.

U.S. coast to coast drive from NY to CA without intervention has been completed multiple times. Three people are currently doing coast to coast in Canada. 3700 miles, ~95 miles from finishing.

They already have 5 vehicles in Dallas and 6 vehicles in Houston running driverless rides and have had them for a month or so. Will probably see that expand some, but it's been my impression they aren't going to go expansive deployment until they've got a model that they're confident in for Cybercab. Just a guess, but October/Novmeber with the release of v15 would be my guess for mass scaling of Cybercabs in operation.

Soon it’ll be driving itself in to Austin city, reporting for duty! https://t.co/pA24RuEv0A

— Ashok Elluswamy (@aelluswamy) May 28, 2026

Saw a Cybercab on 290 in Houston yesterday.

Materials and build quality about right for keeping production cost low

The rubber hubcaps I could agree are, well, tacky. That videographer seemed pretty previously-oblivious to the fact that the panels are all injection-molded plastic.

An enormous amount of this vehicle's design is to make it very quickly high-production-volume ready, and to minimize cost/unit. Also no side view/rear mirrors, no rear window, lot's of components just 'absent.'

Tesla's Cybercab combines Gigacastings with unboxed manufacturing. The result is a 60% reduction in Body-in-White parts 💡

The underbody casting is optimized for simplicity.

-> No wheel arches and flat side profile suggests no lateral slide cores on the dies
-> Expected weight… pic.twitter.com/zUruxw0LYK

— Luca Greco (@lucagrecoita) June 6, 2026

Tesla's Cybercab uses so little energy that it starts making normal EVs look a bit overweight.

165 Wh/mi.
The most efficient EV ever certified.

No steering wheel.
No pedals.
Tiny battery.
Hyper-efficient design from the ground up.

The result?
Transportation that costs pennies… https://t.co/oMshxkMM9t pic.twitter.com/ADLi2C99KK

— Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) May 30, 2026

Is anyone here actively considering purchasing one of these when offered for sale?

Be a good first car for the kids

My parents want their older siblings to get them.

Are they planning to sell them?

Yes. For under 30k.

I wish it had a bench front seat to squeeze in 3 when needed

There are going to be other variants of this kind of vehicle. Really don't see them putting 100's of thousands to millions of Model Y's into service. It is not bespoke enough for the use case.

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There are going to be other variants of this kind of vehicle. Really don't see them putting 100's of thousands to millions of Model Y's into service. It is not bespoke enough for the use case.

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Yes, just as Uber today has a 'professional' (medical care) service and various trim/luxury/size levels available, I expect more derivatives down the line but I think that will take years as pioneering the service at the base-level with a very high volume production model will make those later premium options more appealing once the plebian masses have proven it works, safely/consistently.

I do wonder for those Cybercabs that they sell to private operators, if/how they limit the warranty/support to a period of time/miles. It could be a niche business opportunity but I'd expect at some point they cut it off. I'd also anticipate a required insurance policy purchase from TSLA, giving them some power there as well (not sure how a third party insurer could really come up with a policy very quickly without a repair/safety history etc).

If this efficiency is true, and it costs 10 cents/KW then the cost to powering this car ends up being 1.65 cents/mile.

Avg US car is about 15 gallons and at 30mpg is around 450 miles and costs $45 for a fill up.

The cost of just fuel is $45 vs $7.4

In no way can Waymo get close to this efficiency.

Compared to Uber charging $1.25/mile, the economics tell me uber and waymo is in big trouble.

Uber needs to pivot soon or they are going to be out of business.

Gotta say I can't stand the "why did you turn off FSD" popup even a little bit. Two reasons. First, it won't go away if you don't acknowledge it like the old "tell us what happened" window. Second, if you turn it on for a second and right back off it pops up and won't go away. I've just taken to hitting other no matter what. IMO a much worse experience for submitting feedback.

On the other hand the Streak counter is pretty cool. Drove to San Antonio the other day and the 100 mile mark was cool to see.

I hate the pop up also, I have to take over every day for the dip in the road near my house. There is a sign but it doesn't ever slow down.

Because of that and parking, I will never hit a long streak.

How does the streak counter work?

I had a loaner recently and used FSD a lot but the streak stayed at 0.0.

Has there been any official discussion of legislation regarding drunk driving in a fully autonomous vehicle in the future? I'm curious as to which states adopt rules about this first. Also curious to see how liability will work when you literally have no control over the car.

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How does the streak counter work?

I had a loaner recently and used FSD a lot but the streak stayed at 0.0.

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Don't know in a rental. In my car it just starts counting when I turn it on. I haven't had it not work. I'm headed to Kalifornistan today and renting a MY on Turo so I'll see if that works differently than it has in mine.

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Has there been any official discussion of legislation regarding drunk driving in a fully autonomous vehicle in the future? I'm curious as to which states adopt rules about this first. Also curious to see how liability will work when you literally have no control over the car.

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Not that I've heard. I asked a good friend that's a Texas Constable and he said right now it's on you but there hasn't been a court case on it yet. The Gillespie Cointy deputy that pulled me over for speeding in December echoed that sentiment when I said, "The car was driving and I wasn't paying attention, will that get me out of this ticket?" I got a warning so I guess it kind of worked. lol

Right now it is supervised so the human driver still has 100% responsibility for the vehicle and it's actions. Who knows what is going to happen when it goes unsupervised.

Most likely will be determined by lawsuits and legislation.

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Another video for when people think Waymo is way ahead of Tesla:

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What does this video prove that Tesla is ahead of Waymo in? There were no crashes or accidents that were shown in this video even with that women trying to claim that Waymo's will be running over all the kids in the neighborhood. All this video shows is Waymo could do better in fleet route management.

Actual driving autonomy and safety are about the same between Waymo and Tesla as someone that has taken many Waymos and has a Tesla with FSD on HW4. I personally think Tesla is closer to achieving autonomy for the masses since you can personally own a Tesla with FSD relatively cheaply than having to rely on a ride-share service like Waymo. But there will always be a place for 100% ride share autonomy services like Waymo since owning a personal vehicle isn't for everyone within every transportation situation.

I don't see how Waymo is scaleable. Their vehicles cost a fortune. They aren't profitable and will probably never be until they massivly reduce the number of sensors and other hardware needed for their vehicles.

I will mark you down in the doesn't like jokes about Waymo column of my spreadsheet. Nothing in the one line post was about Tesla being ahead of Waymo. It was a joke about people who think Waymo is way ahead of Tesla. Maybe some day there will be videos of Robotaxi/Cybercabs shutting down city streets, blocking ambulances, blocking/honking at eachother in a parking lot, driving into a police standoff, and circling a neighborhood in large groups

LOYAL AG said:

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Has there been any official discussion of legislation regarding drunk driving in a fully autonomous vehicle in the future? I'm curious as to which states adopt rules about this first. Also curious to see how liability will work when you literally have no control over the car.

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Not that I've heard. I asked a good friend that's a Texas Constable and he said right now it's on you but there hasn't been a court case on it yet. The Gillespie Cointy deputy that pulled me over for speeding in December echoed that sentiment when I said, "The car was driving and I wasn't paying attention, will that get me out of this ticket?" I got a warning so I guess it kind of worked. lol

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Me every morning going through the HOV lane rather than the toll lane.

What do yall think about this deal? I was thinking about buying a model Y in a couple years when my wife needs a new car. Really want FSD. I see an ad on FB today with a dealer with a 2017 Model S 75D (which I much prefer the look of, too bad it's discontinued) for $21,000. 62,000 miles.

I'm a used car buyer so that doesn't bother me. Ad says "FSD Software Included" so I assume I can get FSD without the stupid subscription?

Good deal? Anything to look for?

You would want the newest hardware to get the actual benefit. Hardware 4 (HW4) was introduced to Model S and X in 2023, Model Y mid-year 2023 (some 2023 vehicles have HW3), and Model 3 2024 (the new look Model 3).