My wife has a 2024 Model 3 dual motor. I find the seats to be very uncomfortable, it is hard to keep cool in the summer, touchscreen everything is very annoying, no gauge cluster is annoying, no turn signal/wiper stick is annoying, no manual lock/unlock is annoying, regenerative braking is annoying, door handles are annoying AF, gas pedal is heavy and fatiguing, interior materials feel cheap, range is less than advertised, and road trips are a PITA. Acceleration is the only thing I like about the car. Fortunately it's a company car so we didn't have to pay for it.

I'd buy a Honda Accord instead or step up to a TLX which have been my 2 most recent work vehicles. Fortunately I get a car allowance so I can take my pick. I absolutely love my TLX

Set aside a monthly payment for tires. The two guys I know with Teslas said they replace them every 15K-20K miles.

One of them had to pay $900 for a flatbed tow from San Antonio to Houston because he had a blowout on a Sunday and didn't have a spare. I almost died laughing at the mental image of him and his buddy riding three wide in the tow truck for 3 hours.

BL426 said:

---

I'm curious about the glass roof in the model 3. How does it perform in Texas during the summer? Does it cause a lot of heat to radiate into the car?

---

You use your phone app as the key to your car. On the app, you can turn on the A/C, heat, heated seats, etc remotely.

So the car would be hot in Texas like any other car, but am in the habit of turning on the A/C before I walk to my car, so it is 65 degrees in a few minutes.

I thought it was fine in the summer and agree that using the app to cool the car before I get in is great. Then again I've never felt a gas pedal was fatiguing.

GAC06 said:

---

I thought it was fine in the summer and agree that using the app to cool the car before I get in is great. Then again I've never felt a gas pedal was fatiguing.

---

Yeah. The gas pedal being fatiguing is a wild complaint.

FIDO*98* said:

---

You're not putting 30K miles a year on your car like the OP and my wife. The Tesla if fine for running around New Braunfels. It's different when you are in and out of your car all day.

When I lift my foot off the gas pedal in my Acura, it does not dramatically change speeds. When you lift your foot off the gas pedal and a Tesla it is the equivalent of hitting the brakes. It's really great when they cruise control decides to self-cancel and you nearly get rear ended on 35

---

Cool. Turn off the regenerative braking if it is so difficult for you.

I don't know, man… I have 14,000 miles on mine in less than six months and this one has me scratching my head, too. My only thoughts on the accelerator are that it is fun as hell.

You must not have a performance model, because it's a crap ton faster than your Acura

Model 3 performance is 2.9 0-60

It's a world of relativity. I'm not looking for reasons to hate it, it's simply not as good as other cars I own or have owned. If you read the EV thread on the Politics board you'd see I was very positive initially. I'd argue it is Tesla owners who work way too hard to prop up the Tesla and pretend the negatives are positives. A lot of Tesla owners think men can get pregnant so I guess it goes with the territory

So my car looks better, drives and handles better, more room, is far more comfortable and has a longer range. If only I could win more drag races against EVs

I'm glad you like your car but comparing the sport/performance model Acura against the not performance model 3 is kinda dumb. The model 3 performance is a crap ton faster in any way you measure it, not just in a drag race. It also handles great but no point arguing that here. I also think it looks better but that's subjective of course.

Of course maybe you just don't like it, but foot fatigue and strawmen about men giving birth aren't great arguments.

FIDO*98* said:

---

It's a world of relativity. I'm not looking for reasons to hate it, it's simply not as good as other cars I own or have owned. If you read the EV thread on the Politics board you'd see I was very positive initially. I'd argue it is Tesla owners who work way too hard to prop up the Tesla and pretend the negatives are positives. A lot of Tesla owners think men can get pregnant so I guess it goes with the territory

---

It is funny that you bring up politics, because it seems like most of the people that hate EVs and Tesla hate them because of their politics. The venn diagram of people that are negative on it and look for things like "the throttle tires my leg" is probably deeply overlapping. But at the same time, Musk worked pretty hard and probably had a pretty big part in delivering the election for Trump.

I have no problem identifying the negatives or positives. I don't really like the outer door handles, but they aren't complicated or hard to use one-handed so it really isn't a big deal to me. The interior door buttons are way easier to use than a traditional handle, so give and take.

I totally get that some people may not like things move from traditional spaces and for some, moving your speedometer 5" may not be your favorite. But it is right next to my right hand and in my peripheral vision when looking at the road. I like it and don't have to refocus to see it like I do in my Landcruiser.

But for me, not having to run an app on my phone like waze, apple/google maps to get navigation with traffic integration is a huge positive.

And I am a Spotify user, so being able to be listening to a podcast through my earbuds, getting in my car and the podcast seamlessly switches to my car's built in Spotify is perfect. Again, don't have to run apps on my phone while driving. Works the same way with phone calls.

Personally, it is a huge negative for me now when I drive other cars and have to deal with my phone for music, podcasts, navigation, etc. It is way easier for all that to be built into the car than have to use my phone or keep my phone plugged in if it doesn't have wireless carplay/android auto.

My kids love having the integrated Netflix/Disney+/Youtube and video games for when they have to wait on the other's rehearsals or appointments.

If you really wanted a gauge cluster speedo, there are a ton of cheap/easy aftermarket ones you could install. I've never felt the need, but my best friend did in his MY.

The car does have a manual long/unlock button and you can also use voice commands. The car automatically locks/unlocks itself so that has never once been an issue in 4 years.

My car has a turn signal stalk (older model) with a wiper button, but I never use the wiper button because it is on auto. I don't know actually how you signal in your car without a signal stalk. One of the things I like about mine is that I flip the stalk to tell it to change lanes when on FSD.

You said it is hard to keep cool in the summer, which is just bull***** I've had it for four summers in Houston. Pre-condition it before getting in and it has no problem keeping the cabin below 70 degrees for my 32mi drive across Houston every afternoon. It is significantly better than any other car I have ever had in this aspect simply because the app integration for temperature controls is there. Hell, I have a Tesla integration on my Garmin watch and can change the temp without even using my phone.

There are things that are different about it such as 1-foot driving, the screen, etc. But it seems like for most people, none of those are difficult to adapt to. If you never adjust to those things, sure they can be negatives. But my experience is that none of these are difficult to adjust to.

I will agree that the interior materials feel lower quality than the other cars I was considering (Audi, BMW mostly) but they have all held up remarkably well and my kids aren't all that easy on stuff. I find the seats very comfortable.

Range is less than advertised for highway but seems right in city driving. And it is really nice to always leave my house fully charged and not deal with gas stations or stops. We live in Houston and regularly take it to SA, DFW, Fredericksburg without any problem. If we were going on a longer road trip than that, then we would probably be taking the minivan or LandCruiser. That's probably how most people are as well. Never had a problem with road trips in it.

Quote:

---

You guys have way overblown that comment about the gas pedal. The birth comment is hardly a strawman.

---

It shows bias and is irrelevant.

Quote:

---

There is no reality in which the Tesla door handles are easier to use than traditional.

---

There is no reality where the interior handle of a typical car is easier than the interior button of a Tesla.

On the Model X, you actually just walk up to it and the door opens for you. There is no reality where a traditional door handle is easier to use than a Model X. I would prefer a Model S, X, or CT handle to the 3/Y handles, but once you have done the 3/Y handles, it is easy and something you don't think about. Are the handles on my minivan easier? I guess. Does it affect my life negatively in any way? No. Do the kids at the elementary school have any difficulty opening the doors of my car for my kids? Nope.

Quote:

---

There is no reality in which a center mounted touch screw is easier to use than buttons/knobs can be accessed with muscle memory

---

Center-mounted touch screw? I don't even know what you are talking about.

Quote:

---

There is no reality in which shifting from drive to reverse to park is easier with a slide control.

---

Ever just tell it to park? My car has a shift stick, so can't comment on it. I haven't driven your model.

Quote:

---

Of course things like looks and comfort are subjective. I'm glad you like your Tesla. 99% of people would agree my car is better looking.

---

I truly don't care about the looks at all. I think most people would agree an Audi is better looking than your Acura. So what? I really love the S7 but others hate it. Most people hate the Cybertrucks, but I love a ton of the features and most that have driven it seem to love the driving experience compared to similar size trucks.

Quote:

---

I am fortunate that I can pretty much drive whatever I want with my car allowance and I don't have to pay for gas so there might be other scenarios where the Tesla would be great from a performance/economics standpoint. Our CEO is actually a massive Tesla and EV fan so we're hearing we might be going away from the car allowance and getting Teslas in 2026. Fortunately at my position it will be a Model S. Maybe I'll love it

---

Model S is nice and it does have the screen in front of the steering wheel since that is your jam.