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veryfuller said:

She's was in Black Widow already ???
True - I meant more the MCU movies going forward.

I kind of had forgotten Black Widow got a theater run to be honest.
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If the watch is the wife's, why would it be in the Avengers compound?
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Clint had it locked away with the Ronin stuff for extra security?
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redline248 said:

If the watch is the wife's, why would it be in the Avengers compound?
True, but she seemed to already know about its importance when Clint told her they had it.
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AliasMan02 said:

I'm wondering if she was a Widow. I'm convinced she was a spook of some sort.
I absolutely agree she worked in the field before she and Clint settled down.

Clint telling her everything, her being able to research people and organizations, her being so ok with Clint doing what he needs to do - I'm convinced as well.
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Also, I keep thinking, this is how Falcon and Winter Soldier should have been. It should have felt like this.
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Madmarttigan said:

I understand that what if and the future of the MCU will be heavily invested in alternate universes but that hasn't really happened quite yet and I don't think that the goal of the Hawkeye show is to start diving into that.

Y'all accepting that they can just throw in absolute random **** that might not make sense and just say cuz…. Multiple universes when this show has nothing to do with that aspect yet is a little mind boggling.


1) Agents of Shield and Inhumans were "part" of the MCU, until they weren't (at minimum, Marvel has ignored any questions about whether they are or not). So, it is reasonable to believe that the Netflix shows are either not canon, or in another universe.
2) The netflix shows didn't really reference anyone from the movies by name. "The big green guy," "the guy with the hammer," etc.
3) Multiverse was first mentioned by the Ancient One in Dr. Strange
4) We've already seen an alternate J Jonah Jameson in Spider man far from home. The same actor can play multiple variants of themselves.
5) Wandavision hinted at multiverse with the "Nexus" commercial (wanda is a Nexus being in the comics).
6) Loki flat out shows the multiverse in action, and gives us the term "Nexus Events"
7) Loki show only happens b/c the Avengers created a nexus event in Endgame
8) What if? is nothing but multiverse stories

Multiverse is not new and has been building since 2016
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Some people are speculating that Laura was Ronin.
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Gangnam Style said:

Some people are speculating that Laura was Ronin.
Did Ronin exist before the snap?
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redline248 said:

Gangnam Style said:

Some people are speculating that Laura was Ronin.
Did Ronin exist before the snap?
Just going off the movies, I'd say no. And Laura clearly dusted in the opening scene in Endgame.
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unless she did that back in the day, and Clint used her gear after the snap.
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The speculation is before they met. Her comment that she is the only person who understands what he has to do is what is fueling it
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The real reveal

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I guess I am in the minority, as someone who doesn't care for Yelena's character at all.
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DallasTeleAg said:

I guess I am in the minority, as someone who doesn't care for Yelena's character at all.
The accent wears on you.
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DallasTeleAg said:

All I really need from the Netflix universe are Daredevil, Fisk, and the Punisher. The rest is "meh".


Have to add Killgrave to that list. Probably one of the top marvel villains to be on screen, he was so masterfully played.
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texasaggie04 said:

DallasTeleAg said:

All I really need from the Netflix universe are Daredevil, Fisk, and the Punisher. The rest is "meh".


Have to add Killgrave to that list. Probably one of the top marvel villains to be on screen, he was so masterfully played.
Killgrave was really good, but I personally don't need another Jessica Jones story. I hope they just leave that one alone. Plus, the themes around that story are way too dark for general audiences.
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Yeah, you'll never be able to replicate the dark perfection of that season with Killgrave for a general Disney audience.
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Killgrave started out a fantastic sinister villain when he was more like a Jaws character. Once he started getting more screen time, he turned into a bit of a whiny *****, imo.
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Fightin TX Aggie said:

DallasTeleAg said:

I guess I am in the minority, as someone who doesn't care for Yelena's character at all.
The accent wears on you.
I'm wondering if they bring her to a point like Wanda where the accent fades away in future movies
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Fightin TX Aggie said:

DallasTeleAg said:

I guess I am in the minority, as someone who doesn't care for Yelena's character at all.
The accent wears on you.
The most unbelievable part of her is that she's dating Zach Braff.
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Adding Vincent's Kingpin to this is an awesome move... but I have to say I was REALLY scarred by that car door scene in Daredevil. To this day, that was one of the more disturbing cinematic scenes I've ever seen. yikes.

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So, Daredevil is just a blind guy with peak human hearing?? Or does he have some super ability?
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helloimustbegoing said:

Fightin TX Aggie said:

DallasTeleAg said:

I guess I am in the minority, as someone who doesn't care for Yelena's character at all.
The accent wears on you.
The most unbelievable part of her is that she's dating Zach Braff.


I thought he was gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that
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Maybe i'm not the first person to say this, but I was watching some goofy interviews of the cast of Spiderman and the top of Avengers tower came up. Holland seemed to remember something and said, "I DO know who bought Avengers tower!"

... what if Fisk bought Avengers tower?
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Yelena's dusting and blip back was awesome. First time we've seen it from the perspective of someone it happened to.
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Not just hearing - his senses are dialed up to 10000%, to an absurd degree. So if he focuses he can hear someone's heartbeat to tell if they're lying or about to make a move. He can tell how many enemies are waiting for him behind a door, and smell the gunpowder in their weapons, and feel the currents of the air and tell when someone makes a move, etc. etc. It's almost like the Detective Vision in the Arkham Batman games, or in Witcher 3.

So while he's "blind" in his public persona, Daredevil's overall senses give him better vision than just about any superhero. Of course that took a lot of training, and then he's also trained to be a physical fighter as well.

Here's a (very violent) clip from season 2 of Daredevil that shows a little of it. The Punisher is killing mobsters, Daredevil wants to capture him and the mob alive so they can face justice in the courts.

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Daredevil's fighting style to get the ever-living crap beat out of him. Very Rocky-esque.
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Cromagnum said:

Yelena's dusting and blip back was awesome. First time we've seen it from the perspective of someone it happened to.


We saw it happen to Monica in WandaVision, although now that I think about it, I think we only see her come out of it.
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I wasn't a minute into the max and cheese scene before I told my wife that I really hope the next season of this is "Hawkeye and black widow" with these two as the stars.

Also, like other have said, loved the snap perspective.

Finally, to add to the multiverse discussion. They never have to address if Fisk is the same or not. Unless an in show character is going to interact with a character from a different universe, they will just leave it up to the audience to decide. If you aren't worried about continuity and all the little things that may or may not work, fine, it's the same one. If you're going to nitpick every minute detail, fine, it's a different universe. They'll treat it like the Eric Bana Hulk.
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TXAG 05 said:

Cromagnum said:

Yelena's dusting and blip back was awesome. First time we've seen it from the perspective of someone it happened to.


We saw it happen to Monica in WandaVision, although now that I think about it, I think we only see her come out of it.
Really needs to be a half-hour long "Oh Snap!" parody video of people coming back from it in hilarious or deadly ways.

People who were on an airplane now falling to their death
Navy guys who were in a submarine
People who were on a rollercoaster or some other thrill ride
People who were taking a **** and blip back into someone else taking a *****
Anyone whose SO has moved on and they blip back into the room where that person is having the sechs with their new partner
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helloimustbegoing said:

TXAG 05 said:

Cromagnum said:

Yelena's dusting and blip back was awesome. First time we've seen it from the perspective of someone it happened to.


We saw it happen to Monica in WandaVision, although now that I think about it, I think we only see her come out of it.
Really needs to be a half-hour long "Oh Snap!" parody video of people coming back from it in hilarious or deadly ways.

People who were on an airplane now falling to their death
Navy guys who were in a submarine
People who were on a rollercoaster or some other thrill ride
People who were taking a **** and blip back into someone else taking a *****
Anyone whose SO has moved on and they blip back into the room where that person is having the sechs with their new partner



You have quite the imagination.
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For those of you asking if Kingpin will be the same actor as the Netflix series I could have sworn I saw the name Vincent D'Onofrio in the closing credits. Would he have been included in the credits for a grainy photo revealing? Maybe I'm mistaken, perhaps someone can back check me.
 
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