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*** SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME *** (SPOILER THREAD)

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Max Power said:

One small issue in our theater was there was someone who obviously saw the movie earlier in the day. At every big reveal he yelled or cheered about a half second before anyone else in the audience knew what was happening. Doc Oc, Green Goblin, Matt Murdock, Garfield, Maguire, every single one of them. It was annoying AF.


I would have gotten him thrown out. Piece of *****
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New World Ag said:

Crowd was nuts last night…had a group of three teenage boys behind me absolutely yelling at each reveal (one was always yelling LETS GOOOOO!!!). I think the same kid was sobbing at Mae's death scene…I was trying not to yawn and roll my eyes.


Not sure why you'd be rolling your eyes. Isn't this the point of seeing a movie like this in opening weekend. I absolutely loved finally being at a movie again opening weekend and hearing the cheers and the crying and all the emotions being expressed throughout the theater. Having kiddos has made that hard to happen for my wife and I. My daughter was absolutely balling when May died. I got emotional too. It was absolutely nailed by the actors as well. It's so awesome that that can make a comic book movie so real emotionally. That's what makes the MCU so compelling. They really have found the right recipe to mix fantasy with grounded reality. The first time in a movie like this that I felt that they could capture such tragedy in a fantasy movie with when Gandalf perished in LOTR and the the Fellowship had to deal with their feelings and emotions afterwards. I immediately could feel the grounded realism in that moment. These guys had gone through hell literally and now lost their leader. It was so much like watching Saving Private Ryan yet we were watching a "nerd" movie. A fantasy based movie that most of us felt you'd not witness that. It was great. Now you see it throughout the MCU. These moments are so real. And I love it. I think it helps that the movie makers have passion for the subject matter and stories and characters as well. Peter Jackson put his heart and some into LOTR franchise (ya, he missed with the Hobbit but I can forgive that). Feige has done such an amazing job with the MCU overall and putting the right people to direct and lead these. It's been so fun and there's so much more still to come. I'm excited.
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Albatross Necklace said:

Cromagnum said:

So how do they explain away that Tom Hollands and Toby Macguires versions of JJ Jameson are the same and still remain in Tom's universe?
J Jonah Jameson is a nexus being
J. Jonah Jameson as Mephisto confirmed.
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According to BoxOfficeMojo it's the #2 opening day of all-time at $121,500,000, trailing only Endgame and finishing just ahead of The Force Awakens at $119,119,282.

Seven of the Top 10 Opening Days all-time are Disney properties released since 2015.
Also 13 of the Top 20.


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$250M OW incoming!

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/spider-man-box-office-massive-previews-1235064378/
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No more Covid excuses after this. You want people to show up for your movie? Make better movies.
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Max Power said:

One small issue in our theater was there was someone who obviously saw the movie earlier in the day. At every big reveal he yelled or cheered about a half second before anyone else in the audience knew what was happening. Doc Oc, Green Goblin, Matt Murdock, Garfield, Maguire, every single one of them. It was annoying AF.

I find all audience reactions annoying AF. I'm watching the same move you are. I like to engross myself in the movie almost like I'm there with the characters. Audience eruptions ruin that perception.
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That's what living rooms are for.
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Drawkcab said:

Max Power said:

One small issue in our theater was there was someone who obviously saw the movie earlier in the day. At every big reveal he yelled or cheered about a half second before anyone else in the audience knew what was happening. Doc Oc, Green Goblin, Matt Murdock, Garfield, Maguire, every single one of them. It was annoying AF.

I find all audience reactions annoying AF. I'm watching the same move you are. I like to engross myself in the movie almost like I'm there with the characters. Audience eruptions ruin that perception.
Don't go on opening weekends for an event film if you want to watch the movie in peace and quiet. The majority of us want to go during the OW just to experience that crowd hype.
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Especially something like a Marvel film that is known for it.
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TCTTS said:

No more Covid excuses after this. You want people to show up for your movie? Make better movies.


And enough of the day and date BS for huge blockbusters.
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Word.
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But not for filmmakers, theaters, or pretty much any of the industry in general.
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TCTTS said:

Garfield's sarcastic/dejected/self-deprecating "Spider-Man threee" was maybe my favorite line reading of the entire movie.
I so loved this too. Hilarious.

But his "cool youth minister" line got the biggest laugh in my theater
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Just sat down for viewing #2.

(Another sold out IMAX theater btw)
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Gangnam Style said:

Drawkcab said:

Max Power said:

One small issue in our theater was there was someone who obviously saw the movie earlier in the day. At every big reveal he yelled or cheered about a half second before anyone else in the audience knew what was happening. Doc Oc, Green Goblin, Matt Murdock, Garfield, Maguire, every single one of them. It was annoying AF.

I find all audience reactions annoying AF. I'm watching the same move you are. I like to engross myself in the movie almost like I'm there with the characters. Audience eruptions ruin that perception.
Don't go on opening weekends for an event film if you want to watch the movie in peace and quiet. The majority of us want to go during the OW just to experience that crowd hype.
This.
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Loved every moment of this movie, but it really hit for me when Garfield's Spidey saved MJ. That, along with Aunt May, was the biggest emotional moment of the entire movie.
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Biggest takeaway is that Dafoe is just amazing. Stole the show.
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Drawkcab said:

Max Power said:

One small issue in our theater was there was someone who obviously saw the movie earlier in the day. At every big reveal he yelled or cheered about a half second before anyone else in the audience knew what was happening. Doc Oc, Green Goblin, Matt Murdock, Garfield, Maguire, every single one of them. It was annoying AF.

I find all audience reactions annoying AF. I'm watching the same move you are. I like to engross myself in the movie almost like I'm there with the characters. Audience eruptions ruin that perception.


Yea that's on you for going opening weekend. Personally, I went for a second viewing at the biggest IMAX screen I could find last night just to witness 400 people go nuts. It is the best part of these blockbuster movies.
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AliasMan02 said:

Biggest takeaway is that Dafoe is just amazing. Stole the show.


The part where he cackles while Peter is punching him.
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Dafoe didn't lose a beat from playing a character that he portrayed almost 20 years ago. That's just insane! We always talk about the beat villains in cinema history and I think he gets overlooked. I'm so happy Marvel went this direction to highlight his potryal of the green goblin to a new generation!
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Sorry if this has already been posted.

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So, something that bugged me a little that I just put my finger on. I heard people talk about how they felt like this was Holland's last hurrah, but honestly, this wasn't even his movie. This movie was all:
1. A farewell tour for the other Spider-Man properties
2. An into to the multiverse

Holland was great in it but he didn't even face one of his rogue's gallery.
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I just got back from my first time seeing it. I'm shocked that it is getting basically universal praise.

I came away so dismayed with the whole Disney/Sony arrangement and how much they have botched this since Homecoming became my favorite movie in the MCU. Apologies in advance, this is going to be tldr.

The first thing this movie does is setup where our main characters are going. MIT, the idea that Ned is getting pushed to the side by MJ, Peter and MJ becoming an actual couple, a different and more vibrant take on Aunt May, and on and on. A continuation of everything the last 2 movies plus all the crossovers have been working towards and cultivating. And then.......

The movie completely throws all of that in the garbage. The writers basically said "See this, right here, we could do this, but we have at Sony have an expanded universe to promote and there's money to be made so if you were hoping for that, tough *****" They then proceed to completely stop developing Ned or Aunt May, and turn them into convenient plot devices to start up the nostalgia machine. They halt any actual unique character development that Tom Holland's version of the character was getting and just download the same character building they setup for McGuire or Garfield onto this version. And then for good measure, they kill off Aunt May and wipe Ned and MJ out of the picture so that Peter is free to go play in Sony EU happy play land and we don't have to spend any money on supporting cast.

This whole movie is a giant middle finger to anyone who liked anything original they did with the character in the previous movies.

Sure, I enjoyed some of the fan service. I thought everyone they brought back put in great performances. Given the story choices they made, it was well executed. But I just feel a sense of loss at the kind of Spiderman stories we could be getting if Sony didn't own the property.

So yeah basically, I'm feeling like Obi Wan to Tom Holland Spiderman's Anakin
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This is… maybe the worst take I've ever read. I'm not saying you *have* to like it, but you really did miss the point on so many fronts.
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Wipe Ned and MJ out of the picture? Fairly sure they had just as much screen time as any other character besides Holland's SM.
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I think that post reads as though Sony is going to pull the character out of the MCU and into their Sony-verse. But by all accounts, Disney and Sony are going to be sharing him this way for years to come. I don't know if they'll pull Holland into Venom 3 or some **** - and I probably won't see it if that's the case - but as far as anyone has said, he'll be staying put.

So with that in mind... I thought this developed May well (turning her into Uncle Ben, for all intents and purposes, is pretty clever - better than namedropping a dead Ben we never got to see). Ned didn't really get development but I don't know that he ever really did..?

I'm glad that this movie spent more of its focus on the villains - who had more unmined potential, IMO - than jerking around with 3 mostly-similar Peter Parkers. I think they handled things right. It almost veered into excess territory a few times with the Peters but mostly managed to steer clear. But Ock, Osborn, Sandman - those all got to flex new muscles. Ock being cured was a great moment. And Osborn turning bad and setting off the spidey sense was fantastic.

My favorite line of the movie by far was when Electro and Sandman were talking about how they got transformed. Falling into eels, falling into a particle generator. "Damn... gotta be careful where ya fall" (or whatever it was) was a perfect nod to the absurdity of falling-into-stuff-and-now-I'm-a-supervillain trope.
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I was honestly shocked at how much they had to do and how much they mattered to the plot. I mean, the entire conceit hinges on Peter realizing those two characters, specifically, are suffering because of his actions, so he sets out to change that/help them. Literally everything hinges on *their* well being.
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TCTTS said:

This is… maybe the worst take I've ever read. I'm not saying you *have* to like it, but you really did miss the point on so many fronts.
What would you say the point of the movie was? I would say it was something like "a love letter to the history of the character, in all its forms". And I feel that was a poor choice, I would have much preferred to see an original story that continued character arcs setup by the first 2 movies. Sure Ned and MJ are in this plenty, but there was no need to have their story end with this movie when they were just getting warmed up.

Now look, you may say I should've known that this is where it was going from watching the trailers. Yes, I thought this is where this was headed, but I still had what I would call "naive hope" that it wouldn't be a soft reboot.

Again, I thought they executed well in referencing all the tropes, inside jokes, previous films, etc. I'm just burned out on the nostalgia, recycling, and call backs we are getting in movies right now.
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NewOldAg said:

I just got back from my first time seeing it. I'm shocked that it is getting basically universal praise.

I came away so dismayed with the whole Disney/Sony arrangement and how much they have botched this since Homecoming became my favorite movie in the MCU. Apologies in advance, this is going to be tldr.

The first thing this movie does is setup where our main characters are going. MIT, the idea that Ned is getting pushed to the side by MJ, Peter and MJ becoming an actual couple, a different and more vibrant take on Aunt May, and on and on. A continuation of everything the last 2 movies plus all the crossovers have been working towards and cultivating. And then.......

The movie completely throws all of that in the garbage. The writers basically said "See this, right here, we could do this, but we have at Sony have an expanded universe to promote and there's money to be made so if you were hoping for that, tough *****" They then proceed to completely stop developing Ned or Aunt May, and turn them into convenient plot devices to start up the nostalgia machine. They halt any actual unique character development that Tom Holland's version of the character was getting and just download the same character building they setup for McGuire or Garfield onto this version. And then for good measure, they kill off Aunt May and wipe Ned and MJ out of the picture so that Peter is free to go play in Sony EU happy play land and we don't have to spend any money on supporting cast.

This whole movie is a giant middle finger to anyone who liked anything original they did with the character in the previous movies.

Sure, I enjoyed some of the fan service. I thought everyone they brought back put in great performances. Given the story choices they made, it was well executed. But I just feel a sense of loss at the kind of Spiderman stories we could be getting if Sony didn't own the property.

So yeah basically, I'm feeling like Obi Wan to Tom Holland Spiderman's Anakin



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