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*** SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME *** (SPOILER THREAD)

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Cromagnum said:

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wangus12 said:

I definitely am more bummed out by the ending than anything, but the movie itself is great and like others of said it's a top 5 comic book movie easily.

I think I just feel bad of Parker. I don't think any other superhero loses or sacrifice as much as he does in terms of regular life. The dude seems to constantly have to lose loved ones, struggles with the double life, is constantly broke etc.

I'm not holding my breath, but I really hope we get a 4th film with him having really taken on the mantles and God willing the little Venom symbiote comes into play. Then you can have the MJ and Ned relationship rebuild as well. She's still wearing the necklace from FFH at the end as well. After all, MJ said she'd figure out his identity again.


What's so brilliant about these three movies is that they were basically a back door way of getting us to the "default" Peter Parker/Spider-Man we love, but also feel so bad for. I remember people b*tching about the idea of Stark giving Peter all that tech/support in Civil War/Homecoming. Which was certainly fun, but the argument was that it didn't feel quite right that this Peter wasn't "struggling" as much as we knew Peter could/should. In a way, Stark felt like a cheat code. When, in reality, it was all set-up to get us to the "default" version of Peter/Spider-Man we finally see in the last few minutes of NWH. And it's almost MORE poignant this way, because we've now seen how much he's lost, just to essentially get to the version we had in Tobey at the end of act one of the first movie. Which, yeah, I think looked/felt the same by design, in terms of his apartment, shinier suit, etc.


Honestly this is one of my problems with this movie. I felt the mcu take on spiderman was different and that was cool. In this movie, they took away things that made this iteration unique and just made him like a very other Spider-Man down to the damn uncle Ben line.

I enjoyed this movie, but honest for me this was a bit lazy and in the story choices. I think it succeeded because there is so much good acting on the screen that even though it's a bit tired of a story imo, they execute it about as perfectly as possible.


For me after one watch I'm not even thinking about this as a top 5 mcu film and I think given time.people will like this one less.


Not a chance. This one is top 2 or top 3 (depending how much you liked both Infinity Saga movies).

As for me:
Infinity War
No Way Home
Endgame



Wow,

In no particular order,

Iron Man
Homecoming
GoTG1
Ragnarok
Winter Soldier

Are all easily better and I can think of several more.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Are you saying Hawkeye was better than Wandavision and Loki?


Wandavision was the worst. By far.


Also between a certain someone showing up in Hawkeye and Matt Murdoch being in No Way Home I'm super stoked that they might integrate some of the Netflix stuff back in. Would be ok if only daredevil and punisher got reintroduced…
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Max Power said:

One small issue in our theater was there was someone who obviously saw the movie earlier in the day. At every big reveal he yelled or cheered about a half second before anyone else in the audience knew what was happening. Doc Oc, Green Goblin, Matt Murdock, Garfield, Maguire, every single one of them. It was annoying AF.
Had this exact same thing happen to me, but much worse. Not only did he do the above, but he incessantly burped EVERY 5 minutes. There is no hyperbole here, EVERY 5 MINUTES he was burping and blowing it out. He also had the loudest my annoying laugh I have ever heard in a movie theater.

I would have said something if the guy/kid/personw/amoustache wasn't obviously Asperger's or something similar. I did get on to him once as he was actively checking his texts on the highest brightness for at least 2-3 minutes straight. I get glancing at your phone, but having it open on the iMessage app for 2-3 minutes straight shining directly into my eyes was absolutely ridiculous.


Totally ruined my movie watching experience.
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Wandavision was my first time not jumping on a Marvel property as soon as I could, other than a few of the movies I had to wait on because of having family commitments. It was kind of exhausting. So many hidden Mickeys and not much payoff.

The series for me so far
Hawkeye (All Hail Pizza Dog)
Loki
What If?
F&WS
Wanda-vision

After watching No Way Home on the big big Saturday night, my new top 5 for Marvel goes

1. GOTG 1
2. The Winter Soldier
3. Infinity War
4. Endgame
5. No Way Home

I said it earlier, but NWH is the right movie for the times we're living in. Back in May 2020, I remember being out of a walk one night and putting on the first episode of the Scrubs' podcast show, laughing out loud, and thinking "Damn, I haven't laughed at entertainment in more than a month or so."

Regardless of how you feel about COVID or politics or race relations or people getting cancelled on social media (or TexAgs) or anything else, these are some wearing-ass times to be living in and you don't really notice the stress piling up on you. Being able to put out a movie like this that celebrates what's come before and keeps the story going forward is a welcome thing in the world. I'm not sure who in the media decided that "fan service" should be a negative thing, because who are these movies being made for, if not the fans of the franchise, the characters, and their shared history?
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That's why I go to Alamo Drafthouse. That guy would have gotten thrown it quickly
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Went to Alamo draft house for second viewing. I forgot how much more annoying people walking in front of you ever couple of minutes is infinitely worse than someone checking their texts
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wangus12 said:

That's why I go to Alamo Drafthouse. That guy would have gotten thrown it quickly
Lol, I was literally at the Alamo Drafthouse.

Some Drafthouses just don't care.
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For me...

01. Spider-Man: No Way Home
02. Spider-Man: Homecoming
03. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
04. Spider-Man 2
05. Spider-Man
06. Spider-Man: Far From Home
07. The Amazing Spider-Man
08. The Amazing Spider-Man 2
09. Spider-Man 3

01. Avengers: Endgame
02. Spider-Man: No Way Home
03. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2
04. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
05. Iron Man
06. Guardians of the Galaxy
07. Avengers: Infinity War
08. Spider-Man: Homecoming
09. Thor: Ragnarok
10. Avengers
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Quick question...and it may have been covered in one of the earlier pages of this discussion, so my apologies if it was.

When SWAT/Police were advancing on the building where Spider Man / Aunt May / Green Goblin had been fighting, how does Jon Favreau just cruise right up to the front door in his car. He just drives up right in front of the SWAT unit and is like...Hey, I live here. Did I miss something, or did that seem a bit ridiculous?
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I assume he still has all kinds of security clearances/work-arounds via his Stark employment/connections.

That said, it was so inconsequential that I didn't even think about it as an issue or plot hole or whatever until a couple people brought it up in this thread. If it was something that actually affected the plot, I could understand questioning it. Otherwise, I don't really see the point.
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I just assumed it was because he was so money.
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I like to think Happy ramped over the barricade dukes of hazzard style
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It certainly didn't impact my enjoyment of the movie. It wasn't that big of a deal. I just remember making a mental note of it while watching because i found it odd.

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Very good movie... don't get why people put it in their top 5, outside of nostalgia. I will not disparage anyone for rating something high because of the nostalgia factor; hell, that is what the movie makers were going for.

I would put the following over this, as far as my enjoyment goes (in no particular order):

Avengers
Infinity War
End Game
Winter Soldier
Civil War
GotG
GotG2
Thor: Ragnarok
Iron Man

The scenes were shot fantastically and the acting was superb. Idk... there was just something missing or off that I can't put my finger on. Most of the emotional scenes just didn't hit me like I thought they would have.

To be honest, I nearly laughed during May's death because it was about 1 minute too long, and I kept thinking about Deadpool's death scene in Deadpool 2.

Loved seeing Matt Murdoc in the movie, and really was more excited to see that than I was the two other Spidermen. One of my favorite scenes was definitely Peter's spidey sense going off when Norman turned. That was so creepy and well done.
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TCTTS said:

For me...

01. Spider-Man: No Way Home
02. Spider-Man: Homecoming
03. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
04. Spider-Man 2
05. Spider-Man
06. Spider-Man: Far From Home
07. The Amazing Spider-Man
08. The Amazing Spider-Man 2
09. Spider-Man 3

01. Avengers: Endgame
02. Spider-Man: No Way Home
03. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2
04. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
05. Iron Man
06. Guardians of the Galaxy
07. Avengers: Infinity War
08. Spider-Man: Homecoming
09. Thor: Ragnarok
10. Avengers
Lol... I just saw this after posting my thoughts. Your top 10 Marvel movies look like exactly my top 10, but in a completely different order and swapping Homecoming for Civil War.

I just would put No Way Home at 10, right now.

As for Spiderman movies... Into the Spider-Verse did everything for me that I lacked in No Way Home. I think Into the Spiderverse is a perfect Spiderman movie.
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Saw it this afternoon and loved every second of it! Murdoch showing up to represent them, the way they introduced Tobey and Garfield (who stole the show), even the subtle play on their movie's theme music.
This is up there with End Game for me. Such a perfect movie.
We stayed for the post credit scene with venom but not for the DS scene, didn't do my research and should've known that there's alway two.
One thing that I kept thinking while watching is how insane Multiverse of Madness is going to be.
Now time to catch up on this thread.
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Gangnam Style said:

Drawkcab said:

Max Power said:

One small issue in our theater was there was someone who obviously saw the movie earlier in the day. At every big reveal he yelled or cheered about a half second before anyone else in the audience knew what was happening. Doc Oc, Green Goblin, Matt Murdock, Garfield, Maguire, every single one of them. It was annoying AF.

I find all audience reactions annoying AF. I'm watching the same move you are. I like to engross myself in the movie almost like I'm there with the characters. Audience eruptions ruin that perception.
Don't go on opening weekends for an event film if you want to watch the movie in peace and quiet. The majority of us want to go during the OW just to experience that crowd hype.


What a different experience. We went at 4:30 on Saturday. Theater was packed, but was silent throughout the entire movie. One guy clapped when Daredevil made his appearance, but that's it. No cheering, no crying...silence.... except for that one clap.
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This movie was almost perfect just kind of missing the great ending moment like the portals/the snap/ Thor ridining in on zeppelin music/ miles morales leap of faith type epic moment.

Hit the feels but missing a really good epic moment to vault it past some movies.

Spiderverse is still better imo.
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Just got out of the movie with me wife and kids (7 & 8). They loved it. Had to explain to them that there were other spiderman movies before they were born and now they're tied together. Awesome to see the gears in their heads spinning (insert mind blown gif)

My wife and I both noticed Aunt May's grave had the death year purposely blocked by flowers, only said 20XX. Anyone else spot that? Do we know what year this movie is officially taking place in?
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Interesting.

This is the Far From Home timeline...

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Apparently, the school year 2023/2024 is just coming to an end and those who were snuffed out of existence were forced to retake the whole year despite having already finished mid-terms five years prior. The Midtown Tech newscast also reveals that it's been exactly eight months after the events of Endgame. With that in mind, and Endgame's final battle leading to the death of Iron Man taking place on the fall of 2023, Far From Home is set in the summer of 2024, around June or July.

... which would put No Way Home in the fall of 2024 (act one is seemingly August through Halloween), ending around Christmas 2024.
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No way home made me realize how much time really has passed. Yeesh.
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Saw this one tonight, I haven't read through the thread yet as I didn't want to see spoilers. My raw thoughts without reading anyone else's opinion first:

I didn't hate this movie. Thought it was a great concept, but only about 70% executed.

I thought the writing was bad.

A good joke in a movie gets you because it surprises you, takes you to a different place. Comedic interludes in an otherwise serious film, such as Spider-Man's old movie references in Infinty War and Endgame, work because they contrast the seriousness of the situation.

The writers packed so many jokes into this one that the film never got serious enough for any of them to land. Jokes are great at breaking tension, but there was never tension to break. If half the jokes were removed from this movie, the remaining ones might have been twice as good. This could have been an incredible film had it simply taken itself just a bit more seriously.

Didn't care for the concept of trying to redeem all of the villains. I was worried it was going to get really preachy but it managed to get right up to the line without being over the top with the social commentary.

However, I thought it did it's job. He was feeling the pull of two different roles: friend/boyfriend and hero. He made his choice, and the only choice he really could make.
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For me, my sold out Saturday showing reacted like 35% as much as my opening night crowd.

Opening night was literally college football atmosphere, and Daredevil got a louder cheer and applause than anything in the Saturday showing.
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Daredevil/Toby got the biggest reactions at mine.
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C@LAg said:

Bigfoot Is Real said:

If we get Kingpin, we'll need the Black Cat to make an appearance for reasons.
they will probably make her black. and cast leslie jones

I will incite a riot if this happens. Somebody like Felicity Jones would be perfect for this role.
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Madmarttigan said:

This movie was almost perfect just kind of missing the great ending moment like the portals/the snap/ Thor ridining in on zeppelin music/ miles morales leap of faith type epic moment.

Hit the feels but missing a really good epic moment to vault it past some movies.

Spiderverse is still better imo.
That could've been accomplished pretty easily. Tobey and/or Andrew show up out of nowhere at a climactic moment of the final battle to turn the tide. But really, that's almost clich at this point. Plus, if you go that route, you don't have the two of them in the movie for an hour plus with all those great scenes and interactions. They made the right choice.
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The Spiderman cameos definitely made the movie. Please tell me that the 3 of them got together on set and reenacted the spider man 'you-you-you' meme!


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They actually did a version of the 3 Spideys pointing somewhere near the end of the movie. I can't find the meme though
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double aught said:

Madmarttigan said:

This movie was almost perfect just kind of missing the great ending moment like the portals/the snap/ Thor ridining in on zeppelin music/ miles morales leap of faith type epic moment.

Hit the feels but missing a really good epic moment to vault it past some movies.

Spiderverse is still better imo.
That could've been accomplished pretty easily. Tobey and/or Andrew show up out of nowhere at a climactic moment of the final battle to turn the tide. But really, that's almost clich at this point. Plus, if you go that route, you don't have the two of them in the movie for an hour plus with all those great scenes and interactions. They made the right choice.
This is actually what I expected them to do to introduce the characters. So I'm glad they didn't.
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Bigfoot Is Real said:

C@LAg said:

Bigfoot Is Real said:

If we get Kingpin, we'll need the Black Cat to make an appearance for reasons.
they will probably make her black. and cast leslie jones

I will incite a riot if this happens. Somebody like Felicity Jones would be perfect for this role.
That's exactly who I had in mind for it
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I thought it was a nice twist on the meme that everyone was expecting, they did it, but they weren't in costume. It was when Ned was asking for Peter when they were all working on different things.
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You know, the best part about the memory wipe is it opens the door for Spidey-Shadowcat romance, which is some of the best Spider-Man writing ever. Totally changes the dynamic with Peter involved with someone who isn't constantly in danger.

Though MJ is always his #1.
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Rewatching m, the dining room scene introducing Andrew happens almost exactly at the half way point of the film. And from that point they are arguably in the film more than just about anyone else
 
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