DOGE /MUSK to ask every federal employee to e-mail weekly status or resign

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I am on my third round of " 5 achievement u have achieved". Oh the horror. Even the Nancy's are calming down about it.
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Imagine thinking 2.3 million weekly emails to nowhere to be read by nobody increases efficiency, lol. At least posts on TexAgs get read and reacted to. You proved that.

The OPM emails are directly analogous to Covid masks. Purposeless, ineffectual and exist primarily for show.
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slaughtr said:

Imagine thinking 2.3 million weekly emails to nowhere to be read by nobody increases efficiency, lol. At least posts on TexAgs get read and reacted to. You proved that.

The OPM emails are directly analogous to Covid masks. Purposeless, ineffectual and exist primarily for show.
They were very clear that it didn't matter what was written. What matters is the ones that DONT respond. Because those are likely fake positions with the compensation going somewhere it shouldn't be.

This isn't hard. Try listening to what Elon actually says vs running with made up narratives.
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You realize any idiot with basic programming knowledge could write a script to analyze the emails in like ten minutes, right?

We have some of the best programmers in history on DOGE. Don't be so dense.
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Silent For Too Long said:

You realize any idiot with basic programming knowledge could write a script to analyze the emails in like ten minutes, right?

We have some of the best programmers in history on DOGE. Don't be so dense.
And you think they are doing that? Because that would be even dumber and a bigger waste of time than the email itself. What are they going to do with it?

Name one person that's been fired for their response, or non responses to these emails. It's been almost a month since the first one. Name one "non-person" that's been found.
Ellis Wyatt
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...and again, they are using it to some extent to identify people who aren't even real. You won't hear about them being fired because they aren't working.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

...and again, they are using it to some extent to identify people who aren't even real. You won't hear about them being fired because they aren't working.
...and again, that's absurd. Name one non-person they have found.
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You are getting emotional and not approaching this rationally. Thousands of people have been fired. The emails may or may not have been a contributing factor.

Maybe all 2.9 million responded. Good for them.

Either way this was a sanity check on the system that cost the tax payers nothing. Calm down.
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Silent For Too Long said:

You are getting emotional and not approaching this rationally. Thousands of people have been fired. The emails may or may not have been a contributing factor.

Maybe all 2.9 million responded. Good for them.

Either way this was a sanity check on the system that cost the tax payers nothing. Calm down.

lol. Emotional, no. And not a single person (or non person) has been fired over the emails.
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slaughtr said:

Silent For Too Long said:

You are getting emotional and not approaching this rationally. Thousands of people have been fired. The emails may or may not have been a contributing factor.

Maybe all 2.9 million responded. Good for them.

Either way this was a sanity check on the system that cost the tax payers nothing. Calm down.

lol. Emotional, no. And not a single person (or non person) has been fired over the emails.
Yet.

Or do you think identifying waste and fraud and reversing it something easy to do in 60 days?

Where were you before Trump came in wanting all these people identified and fired?

OR.. you don't. Because you approve of the waste and fraud. Explains your postings.
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Heineken-Ashi said:

slaughtr said:

Silent For Too Long said:

You are getting emotional and not approaching this rationally. Thousands of people have been fired. The emails may or may not have been a contributing factor.

Maybe all 2.9 million responded. Good for them.

Either way this was a sanity check on the system that cost the tax payers nothing. Calm down.

lol. Emotional, no. And not a single person (or non person) has been fired over the emails.
Yet.

Or do you think identifying waste and fraud and reversing it something easy to do in 60 days?

Where were you before Trump came in wanting all these people identified and fired?

OR.. you don't. Because you approve of the waste and fraud. Explains your postings.

Okay, so you're getting emotional and not thinking rationally. I'll let you calm down.
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slaughtr said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

slaughtr said:

Silent For Too Long said:

You are getting emotional and not approaching this rationally. Thousands of people have been fired. The emails may or may not have been a contributing factor.

Maybe all 2.9 million responded. Good for them.

Either way this was a sanity check on the system that cost the tax payers nothing. Calm down.

lol. Emotional, no. And not a single person (or non person) has been fired over the emails.
Yet.

Or do you think identifying waste and fraud and reversing it something easy to do in 60 days?

Where were you before Trump came in wanting all these people identified and fired?

OR.. you don't. Because you approve of the waste and fraud. Explains your postings.

Okay, so you're getting emotional and not thinking rationally. I'll let you calm down.
If that's all you've got to offer the conversation then my last statement was correct.
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I can see there are still lots of wildflowers out there.
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Silent For Too Long said:

You realize any idiot with basic programming knowledge could write a script to analyze the emails in like ten minutes, right?

We have some of the best programmers in history on DOGE. Don't be so dense.


You're expecting too much from the brain of a government worker.
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Silent For Too Long said:

You realize any idiot with basic programming knowledge could write a script to analyze the emails in like ten minutes, right?

We have some of the best programmers in history on DOGE. Don't be so dense.


You're expecting too much from the brain of a government worker.

I agree that the email idea was not well thought out, but I don't think it was because Trump and Elon are currently government workers. Both of them have lots of real world experience. Even the best of us make mistakes.
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I'm Gipper
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Solid gold. Solid Trump gold.
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Im Gipper said:


Looks like Trump is using a ghost writer to send in his 5 points. This is just the kind of fraud we need to root out.
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I still contend the whole point is to create a database that can be obtained by a FOIA request. It can then be searched to doxx and shame online the next Dr. Fauci.
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That's "Boss" to you.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

That's "Boss" to you.
All federal employees are required to take mandatory Whistleblower training to root out waste and fraud at any level of government.

But since I voted for him as my elected representative, he works for me.
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slaughtr said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

That's "Boss" to you.
All federal employees are required to take mandatory Whistleblower training to root out waste and fraud at any level of government.

But since I voted for him as my elected representative, he works for me.
Not sure unemployment will last until you can choose a new boss to work for you, but to each its own.

It the boss asks me directly for something, I always found it part of my job responsibility to do it.
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flown-the-coop said:

slaughtr said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

That's "Boss" to you.
All federal employees are required to take mandatory Whistleblower training to root out waste and fraud at any level of government.

But since I voted for him as my elected representative, he works for me.
Not sure unemployment will last until you can choose a new boss to work for you, but to each its own.

It the boss asks me directly for something, I always found it part of my job responsibility to do it.
I think I'm good.
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slaughtr said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

That's "Boss" to you.
All federal employees are required to take mandatory Whistleblower training to root out waste and fraud at any level of government.

But since I voted for him as my elected representative, he works for me.


Well the training doesn't work
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samurai_science said:

slaughtr said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

That's "Boss" to you.
All federal employees are required to take mandatory Whistleblower training to root out waste and fraud at any level of government.

But since I voted for him as my elected representative, he works for me.


Well the training doesn't work


True.
Because I haven't yet reported what a colossal waste of time the email debacle is to the OIG. I should. It's peak federal government busy work instead of actual work.

Glad you agree.
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slaughtr said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

That's "Boss" to you.
All federal employees are required to take mandatory Whistleblower training to root out waste and fraud at any level of government.

But since I voted for him as my elected representative, he works for me.
Fair enough.

But, since you work for the fedgov, you work for me.
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slaughtr said:

flown-the-coop said:

slaughtr said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

That's "Boss" to you.
All federal employees are required to take mandatory Whistleblower training to root out waste and fraud at any level of government.

But since I voted for him as my elected representative, he works for me.
Not sure unemployment will last until you can choose a new boss to work for you, but to each its own.

It the boss asks me directly for something, I always found it part of my job responsibility to do it.
I think I'm good.
And you wonder why many people think that government workers don't care about the taxpayers that pay their salaries?

Your Honor, I present to you...Exhibit A.
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slaughtr said:

samurai_science said:

slaughtr said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

That's "Boss" to you.
All federal employees are required to take mandatory Whistleblower training to root out waste and fraud at any level of government.

But since I voted for him as my elected representative, he works for me.


Well the training doesn't work


True.
Because I haven't yet reported what a colossal waste of time the email debacle is to the OIG. I should. It's peak federal government busy work instead of actual work.

Glad you agree.


You could have done it in the time it took you to write thet post.
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slaughtr said:

akm91 said:

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Speaking of help from AI. For those interested in the math….
2.3 million employees taking 5 minutes to send an email each week is 120 million emails a year and a rough cost of 400 million dollars in work time at the average federal workers salary.

Way to go, Johnny efficiency.

Stupid argument since they're salaried employees. That 5 minutes they spent composing the email is 5 minutes less time spent doing non-work related stupid crap like texting about weird sexual fetishes. So Elon is actually saving tax payers $400M of waste.
The vast majority are not salaried employees. TexAgs posters have this idea that all 2.3 million federal employees are bureaucrats in DC. That's just not true. For every bureaucrat, there are 10 hourly unionized federal workers. They take out the trash. They recycle the cardboard boxes on the loading dock. They clean bed pans and draw blood at VA's. They flip burgers in canteens and act as security in Federal buildings. And they work all over the country, from Peoria to Walla Walla.

And all of them were asked to send an email that nobody will ever read about the bed pans they washed and the burgers they flipped, lol.
Nothing personal of course, but I did happen to notice that (I guess for maximizing the feels), all of the workers you listed are NOT the millions(?) who have been "working" from home. The ones you listed are the ones who actually do work for the most part.

I think for most of us the bulk of the slacker freeloaders are the ones operating in the shadows, and their supervisors half-squinting their eyes to see if they are actually earning the paycheck. Yea, those are the ones.

Carry on.
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Heineken-Ashi said:

slaughtr said:

samurai_science said:

slaughtr said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

That's "Boss" to you.
All federal employees are required to take mandatory Whistleblower training to root out waste and fraud at any level of government.

But since I voted for him as my elected representative, he works for me.


Well the training doesn't work


True.
Because I haven't yet reported what a colossal waste of time the email debacle is to the OIG. I should. It's peak federal government busy work instead of actual work.

Glad you agree.


You could have done it in the time it took you to write thet post.


That's what they said about Covid masks.
It's just a small inconvenience.
It takes no time at all.
If it saves just one life.

I don't participate in idiocy just because it's easy. I have daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, twice yearly, yearly and every other year reports and evaluations. To and from people that actually know my name, what I do and whether I do it well.

Have you noticed Trump and Elon don't talk about the emails anymore? That's because it was an abject failure. Less than half of Federal employees ever responded and now it's less than 10%, I'd say. Partly because their bosses told them to ignore it. Partly because Trump finally came out and said Elon can't fire anyone and OPM sent an email to all employees saying they couldn't be fired for not responding.
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Jack Squat 83 said:

slaughtr said:

akm91 said:

Quote:

Speaking of help from AI. For those interested in the math….
2.3 million employees taking 5 minutes to send an email each week is 120 million emails a year and a rough cost of 400 million dollars in work time at the average federal workers salary.

Way to go, Johnny efficiency.

Stupid argument since they're salaried employees. That 5 minutes they spent composing the email is 5 minutes less time spent doing non-work related stupid crap like texting about weird sexual fetishes. So Elon is actually saving tax payers $400M of waste.
The vast majority are not salaried employees. TexAgs posters have this idea that all 2.3 million federal employees are bureaucrats in DC. That's just not true. For every bureaucrat, there are 10 hourly unionized federal workers. They take out the trash. They recycle the cardboard boxes on the loading dock. They clean bed pans and draw blood at VA's. They flip burgers in canteens and act as security in Federal buildings. And they work all over the country, from Peoria to Walla Walla.

And all of them were asked to send an email that nobody will ever read about the bed pans they washed and the burgers they flipped, lol.
Nothing personal of course, but I did happen to notice that (I guess for maximizing the feels), all of the workers you listed are NOT the millions(?) who have been "working" from home. The ones you listed are the ones who actually do work for the most part.

I think for most of us the bulk of the slacker freeloaders are the ones operating in the shadows, and their supervisors half-squinting their eyes to see if they are actually earning the paycheck. Yea, those are the ones.

Carry on.

85% of Federal employees work outside of the DC area. Fully 1/3 are GS8 and below. No college education that flip burgers, crush cardboard boxes on the loading dock or clean. The next third are GS9-12. College educated or technically skilled doing jobs like ICE agents, park rangers, or nurses, federal building police, IT. Very few workers are DC fat cats.

When I saw Elon's statistic that 94% of workers don't come into the office, it was my first clue he has no idea what he's talking about. I work in a facility with 2000 people. Only a handful have ever had jobs they could do remotely.
It's true, I don't work in DC. I'm sure there are lots of jobs that need to be cut. Hell, whole departments I'd slash. My point is the email fiasco was idiotic. Tell the new cabinet members to look at their workforce, see what's critical and what isn't, and cut appropriately. If they determine my job isn't necessary in the Federal government, I'm more than happy to leave.
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Man, you got so upset by a modicum of accountability in your job you spent weeks bleeding all over this thread.

Government workers are some entitled and sensitive bunch of nancies.
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slaughtr said:

Jack Squat 83 said:

slaughtr said:

akm91 said:

Quote:

Speaking of help from AI. For those interested in the math….
2.3 million employees taking 5 minutes to send an email each week is 120 million emails a year and a rough cost of 400 million dollars in work time at the average federal workers salary.

Way to go, Johnny efficiency.

Stupid argument since they're salaried employees. That 5 minutes they spent composing the email is 5 minutes less time spent doing non-work related stupid crap like texting about weird sexual fetishes. So Elon is actually saving tax payers $400M of waste.
The vast majority are not salaried employees. TexAgs posters have this idea that all 2.3 million federal employees are bureaucrats in DC. That's just not true. For every bureaucrat, there are 10 hourly unionized federal workers. They take out the trash. They recycle the cardboard boxes on the loading dock. They clean bed pans and draw blood at VA's. They flip burgers in canteens and act as security in Federal buildings. And they work all over the country, from Peoria to Walla Walla.

And all of them were asked to send an email that nobody will ever read about the bed pans they washed and the burgers they flipped, lol.
Nothing personal of course, but I did happen to notice that (I guess for maximizing the feels), all of the workers you listed are NOT the millions(?) who have been "working" from home. The ones you listed are the ones who actually do work for the most part.

I think for most of us the bulk of the slacker freeloaders are the ones operating in the shadows, and their supervisors half-squinting their eyes to see if they are actually earning the paycheck. Yea, those are the ones.

Carry on.

85% of Federal employees work outside of the DC area. Fully 1/3 are GS8 and below. No college education that flip burgers, crush cardboard boxes on the loading dock or clean. The next third are GS9-12. College educated or technically skilled doing jobs like ICE agents, park rangers, or nurses, federal building police, IT. Very few workers are DC fat cats.

When I saw Elon's statistic that 94% of workers don't come into the office, it was my first clue he has no idea what he's talking about. I work in a facility with 2000 people. Only a handful have ever had jobs they could do remotely.
It's true, I don't work in DC. I'm sure there are lots of jobs that need to be cut. Hell, whole departments I'd slash. My point is the email fiasco was idiotic. Tell the new cabinet members to look at their workforce, see what's critical and what isn't, and cut appropriately. If they determine my job isn't necessary in the Federal government, I'm more than happy to leave.
A college educated Agronomist, Range Conservationist, Forester, Wildlife Biologist, etc…… starts off in the USDA as a GS-5 and a salary of $34,500. With good grades, one can start as a GS-7 and a salary of $42,700. I can assure you they are not flipping burgers or folding cardboard boxes. They've also been in the office/field for quite some time after the COVID scare

This is F16, home of the Federal employment "experts", so your mistake is understandable.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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Silent For Too Long said:

Man, you got so upset by a modicum of accountability in your job you spent weeks bleeding all over this thread.

Government workers are some entitled and sensitive bunch of nancies.
Not upset at all. Just enjoying how important it is to all of you that I get fired over an email, lol. It's the highlight of my day.

You guys remind me of that scene in The Holy Grail that dress up that lady as a witch and claim that she turned them into a newt, just so they can burn her. You don't know me. You don't know what I do or if I'm good at it, you just want to raise your tiny fists and yell "Burn her anyway', lol. That's why I keep coming back. It's hilarious.
 
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