Ag87H2O said:
This is next. Slackers beware.
DOGE /MUSK to ask every federal employee to e-mail weekly status or resign
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No weekly reports for me.
Either the sales or there or they arent.
And if they arent, I'm not not either.
Either the sales or there or they arent.
And if they arent, I'm not not either.
clw04 said:I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.Ol_Ag_02 said:
Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
So if you already do this, why did you make a thread complaining that you might have to just send that same report to Elon's group?
After all, you're admitting to already doing it.
BigRobSA said:Tom Fox said:clw04 said:I'm sure that they do - I meet with them oftenTom Fox said:clw04 said:NASA - Avionics for a Spacecraft.Tom Fox said:clw04 said:I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.Ol_Ag_02 said:
Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
Just add Daddy Elon to the recipient list of the weekly email to your boss.
What agency do you work for? What do you do at the agency?
Perfect! I bet Elon knows someone at SpaceX thatcan see if you are any good at your job.
My former coworkers at HSI told me they are exempt. How are you at catching tonks? All hands on deck.
In all seriousness, I love NASA and have great respect for what you do. I would exempt NASA from the coming purge because I think they do a great service for all of mankind.
I would rather gut entitlements and increase your funding than pay for deadbeats. Unfortunately, I do not think I am in the majority of voters.
At least for good or bad, Elon will know whether your job is valuable or not. He won't for some random employees at the US Forest Service.
This
NASA are the good guys.
They are when they are doing space stuff and not playing climate change games.
We'll see what happens Monday but we've been contacted and told not to comply until more information comes to leadership
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
I'm not going to send the same report to OPM - I'm going to scrub details because that status is at a level I won't share outside of my team (if they want it, they can go access our notes document that they already have access to with the tracking of who is accessing it) - so this is just a distraction from getting real work done (assuming the best of intentions of just trying to find the people who aren't doing their work) - its a game at this point, but its a distraction (just like it is in industry to o things like this)satexas said:clw04 said:I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.Ol_Ag_02 said:
Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
So if you already do this, why did you make a thread complaining that you might have to just send that same report to Elon's group?
After all, you're admitting to already doing it.
Got the same responseAg_SGT said:
We'll see what happens Monday but we've been contacted and told not to comply until more information comes to leadership
Ag_SGT said:
We'll see what happens Monday but we've been contacted and told not to comply until more information comes to leadership
This seems ill advised.
Bingo.Broseph said:
Probably aiming for more self selecting
Logos Stick said:
Sorry, no disrespect but I don't buy that any government employee in any agency works 65 hours per week and doesn't have time to create a weekly report.
I used to regularly work that much as a govt employee, and often more. Granted my situation was abnormal, but I did it every week I was at work for 7 years.
Couple things:clw04 said:I'm not going to send the same report to OPM - I'm going to scrub details because that status is at a level I won't share outside of my team (if they want it, they can go access our notes document that they already have access to with the tracking of who is accessing it) - so this is just a distraction from getting real work done (assuming the best of intentions of just trying to find the people who aren't doing their work) - its a game at this point, but its a distraction (just like it is in industry to o things like this)satexas said:clw04 said:I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.Ol_Ag_02 said:
Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
So if you already do this, why did you make a thread complaining that you might have to just send that same report to Elon's group?
After all, you're admitting to already doing it.
- I've never had a job where I could disregard requests/requirements from mgmt. Sounds like a quick edit of current reporting would do the trick.
- If you're doing meaningful, useful work and personally getting after it(apparently working for free almost half the time), you shouldn't have a problem sticking around.
- If you're currently short-staffed at a meaningful, useful job, (light clicks on) cutting out a ****-ton of waste/fraud/abuse might actually help you in that dept
- I don't think I would jack around 'resisting' and for sure realize your superiors might cost you your job for non-compliance. The FAFO factor with Trump this go round is a real thing.
- Sounds like you already have a bur under your saddle with the whole Trump /DOGE thing to start with. I suggest you look at the big picture here.
- Be aware, unlike some social media sites, most of us are definitely not in the 50% or so Americans who don't pay into the system. We also pay attention to the actual/non-MSM current events and what our gov't is up to. We are beyond sick of being screwed over by worthless politicians creating worthless government jobs for worthless gov't workers to take our money, oftentimes to be used directly against our best interest as individuals and our country. IOW you're walking into a hornet's nest here. (nothing personal of course)
Anyways, let those of us on the 'outside' know how it all works out. TIA and good luck (seriously).
you work for the federal government?clw04 said:
Not a status that means anything - it took me 30 seconds for a post - in my free time after working 65 hours this week. I'm pretty sure they don't want a status of "Generated Presentations for solving problems" as a status report of what I did this week.
Sea Speed said:Logos Stick said:
Sorry, no disrespect but I don't buy that any government employee in any agency works 65 hours per week and doesn't have time to create a weekly report.
I used to regularly work that much as a govt employee, and often more. Granted my situation was abnormal, but I did it every week I was at work for 7 years.
Same. 12 hours most days during the week. Lunch at my desk but usually ended up throwing half of it away because it never got eaten. About 4 hrs one day of most weekends. Plus the endless nights and weekends traveling. The workday got filled getting summoned to other people's meetings and then I'd start on my work after all of that died down.
I left the govt. to go to a blue chip law firm with a 2000 hour billable expectation for better work- life balance.
All governments employees sending weekly reports on what they've accomplished sounds like a short term solution to prioritizing RIF and long term solution to assessing which jobs can be reallocated to AI.
I worked similar hours for almost a year to cover my work as a geographer at the VA and cover the directors position after she quitSea Speed said:Logos Stick said:
Sorry, no disrespect but I don't buy that any government employee in any agency works 65 hours per week and doesn't have time to create a weekly report.
I used to regularly work that much as a govt employee, and often more. Granted my situation was abnormal, but I did it every week I was at work for 7 years.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
I'll comply to the letter of the law as directed - I will complain about doing stupid stuff because of a politics and being a political stunt in my view. Elon putting a threat of firing on X (that isn't included in the e-mail away) through a mechanism that has zero direct management authority without having agency management even knowing about it - I have an issue with. I also have an issue with people closely affiliated with Musk dictating policy to people that oversee SpaceX work.Jack Squat 83 said:Couple things:clw04 said:I'm not going to send the same report to OPM - I'm going to scrub details because that status is at a level I won't share outside of my team (if they want it, they can go access our notes document that they already have access to with the tracking of who is accessing it) - so this is just a distraction from getting real work done (assuming the best of intentions of just trying to find the people who aren't doing their work) - its a game at this point, but its a distraction (just like it is in industry to o things like this)satexas said:clw04 said:I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.Ol_Ag_02 said:
Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
So if you already do this, why did you make a thread complaining that you might have to just send that same report to Elon's group?
After all, you're admitting to already doing it.
- I've never had a job where I could disregard requests/requirements from mgmt. Sounds like a quick edit of current reporting would do the trick.
- If you're doing meaningful, useful work and personally getting after it(apparently working for free almost half the time), you shouldn't have a problem sticking around.
- If you're currently short-staffed at a meaningful, useful job, (light clicks on) cutting out a ****-ton of waste/fraud/abuse might actually help you in that dept
- I don't think I would jack around 'resisting' and for sure realize your superiors might cost you your job for non-compliance. The FAFO factor with Trump this go round is a real thing.
- Sounds like you already have a bur under your saddle with the whole Trump /DOGE thing to start with. I suggest you look at the big picture here.
- Be aware, unlike some social media sites, most of us are definitely not in the 50% or so Americans who don't pay into the system. We also pay attention to the actual/non-MSM current events and what our gov't is up to. We are beyond sick of being screwed over by worthless politicians creating worthless government jobs for worthless gov't workers to take our money, oftentimes to be used directly against our best interest as individuals and our country. IOW you're walking into a hornet's nest here. (nothing personal of course)
Anyways, let those of us on the 'outside' know how it all works out. TIA and good luck (seriously).
I actually don't have a problem with even cutting NASA if that is what they are looking for, but the stunts (based on how they are done) are distractions that don't help people actually doing work to be productive. I voted for cutting the federal government, I just expected it to happen without what I view as stunts with political theatre.
lol a guy on TA who works for the Feds claims he worked 65 hours this week. Haha
In this case its just a formality.JB99 said:Ol_Ag_02 said:clw04 said:I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.Ol_Ag_02 said:
Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
Doesn't matter. I do what the person in charge asks me to, or I find another job.
Yeah. It's not that difficult. I've worked on private sector for 25 years. There's been periods where I did weekly status updates. It's not a difficult thing to do takes 10 to 15 minutes.
clw04 said:
I already don't have enough time, I don't have time to send status to someone that doesn't even know if that is what I'm supposed to be doing.Consistent with President @realDonaldTrump’s instructions, all federal employees will shortly receive an email requesting to understand what they got done last week.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 22, 2025
Failure to respond will be taken as a resignation.
Don't email and you'll have plenty of time to wish you had
Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception.
I wonder if "your momma" would get someone fired?
I just don't see how this is legal, we have a very strict hierarchy when it comes to correspondence. Most of my work involves working with with Congress and I'm never allowed to correspond directly to the politicians, we always have to work thru our Congressional Liasion
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
The only employer-employee relationship where an employee feels empowered to "resist the man" and middle level management can get away with "sit tight until we work this out with the big guys" is one infiltrated and infested with unions or a government job.
Why do most regular earning folk hate unions… cause it creates this entitlement attitude in the union / government employees who further get a glorious appreciation of thyselves by the protection of the union lawyers.
If you are a government employee and in a union, then you have won employment lottery.
That is, until DOGE comes a knockin.
Why do most regular earning folk hate unions… cause it creates this entitlement attitude in the union / government employees who further get a glorious appreciation of thyselves by the protection of the union lawyers.
If you are a government employee and in a union, then you have won employment lottery.
That is, until DOGE comes a knockin.
Ag_SGT said:
I just don't see how this is legal, we have a very strict hierarchy when it comes to correspondence. Most of my work involves working with with Congress and I'm never allowed to correspond directly to the politicians, we always have to work thru our Congressional Liasion
Then don't send the email. I am interested to see the outcome.
If you receive the email then you work in the Executive Branch of the government, no?
If you are an Executive Branch employee then your ultimate boss is POTUS, no?
That ultimate boss also has ultimate classification authority, but even still he has instructed through his proxy Elon that you provide him with this information, absent any thing that would make such communiqu unlawful.
Seems like a damn simple request to me.
If you are an Executive Branch employee then your ultimate boss is POTUS, no?
That ultimate boss also has ultimate classification authority, but even still he has instructed through his proxy Elon that you provide him with this information, absent any thing that would make such communiqu unlawful.
Seems like a damn simple request to me.
The request came from OPM in a random e-mail. I can't encrypt the message so I actually can't even put enough details to make it worthwhile, so at least from the technical and contract side its likely that there will be very generic bullets to stay compliance but not mean anything.flown-the-coop said:
If you receive the email then you work in the Executive Branch of the government, no?
If you are an Executive Branch employee then your ultimate boss is POTUS, no?
That ultimate boss also has ultimate classification authority, but even still he has instructed through his proxy Elon that you provide him with this information, absent any thing that would make such communiqu unlawful.
Seems like a damn simple request to me.
clw04 said:NASA - Avionics for a Spacecraft.Tom Fox said:clw04 said:I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.Ol_Ag_02 said:
Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
Just add Daddy Elon to the recipient list of the weekly email to your boss.
What agency do you work for? What do you do at the agency?
I worked for NASA MedOps…we had weekly meetings with our teams, and management was present, where we each had to present what we had accomplished…
Admittedly, I left NASA in 2006…maybe things changed…
flown-the-coop said:
If you receive the email then you work in the Executive Branch of the government, no?
If you are an Executive Branch employee then your ultimate boss is POTUS, no?
That ultimate boss also has ultimate classification authority, but even still he has instructed through his proxy Elon that you provide him with this information, absent any thing that would make such communiqu unlawful.
Seems like a damn simple request to me.
That's not how classification works whatsoever.
All of this is going to have to at minimum go through every orgs infosec team to:
1: validate whose receiving the information
2: determine the recipients level of access, especially for SAP
3: provide guidance to each employee in their org on the level of information that can be shared in this tasker
Additionally, the recipient infosec team is going to need to maintain sanitation of the varying information streams to ensure spillover during collection, analysis, or storage doesn't occur.
Anyone, at any level, in breach of these procedures will be violating federal law and subject to jail time, fines, and/or disbarment.
I think they wanted 5 simple bullet points.
Fred F. Working on spacecraft avionics with NASS-Houston on team led by Barney R.
Currently focused on Project Bedrock.
Refer to 2025.02.21 Update provided to project lead.
Attended training on how to prepare weekly status report.
Attended training for dealing with anxiety of DOGE and Unelected Elon.
Fred F. Working on spacecraft avionics with NASS-Houston on team led by Barney R.
Currently focused on Project Bedrock.
Refer to 2025.02.21 Update provided to project lead.
Attended training on how to prepare weekly status report.
Attended training for dealing with anxiety of DOGE and Unelected Elon.
aunuwyn08 said:flown-the-coop said:
If you receive the email then you work in the Executive Branch of the government, no?
If you are an Executive Branch employee then your ultimate boss is POTUS, no?
That ultimate boss also has ultimate classification authority, but even still he has instructed through his proxy Elon that you provide him with this information, absent any thing that would make such communiqu unlawful.
Seems like a damn simple request to me.
That's not how classification works whatsoever.
All of this is going to have to at minimum go through every orgs infosec team to:
1: validate whose receiving the information
2: determine the recipients level of access, especially for SAP
3: provide guidance to each employee in their org on the level of information that can be shared in this tasker
Additionally, the recipient infosec team is going to need to maintain sanitation of the varying information streams to ensure spillover during collection, analysis, or storage doesn't occur.
Anyone, at any level, in breach of these procedures will be violating federal law and subject to jail time, fines, and/or disbarment.
They specifically requested no classified information be sent.
So the violation of the federal law would be not following instructions. Very easy mole for DOGE to whack.
So all the nonsense above about procedures is null and void unless you a self selecting by sending such information.
clw04 said:I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.Ol_Ag_02 said:
Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
Every employee in my company reports progress to their business unit lead and direct manager each morning. It's not difficult.
The other benefit if this exercise is that it asks you to cc your manager which should help sort out the org chart mess they have mentioned before.
Always interesting to poll employees asking who their boss is then comparing to what HR or the org chart shows.
Hell, I have a small business and this exercise can produce comical and alarming results.
Always interesting to poll employees asking who their boss is then comparing to what HR or the org chart shows.
Hell, I have a small business and this exercise can produce comical and alarming results.
Working on a hunch, I'm thinking that this has been run through proper channels and is perfectly legal.
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:clw04 said:I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.Ol_Ag_02 said:
Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
Every employee in my company reports progress to their business unit lead and direct manager each morning. It's not difficult.
He's just pissed becuase he's going to have to justify all those hours.
Work for a major defense contractor. We write weekly activity reports…well, every week now that I think about it.
Have a buddy who is on leave until the end of next week and doesn't have his computer or phone. I suppose y'all are cool with him being fired for not responding?
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