Ag_SGT said:
We'll see what happens Monday but we've been contacted and told not to comply until more information comes to leadership
DOJ sent the same "hold off" notice.
DOGE /MUSK to ask every federal employee to e-mail weekly status or resign
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DOJ sent the same "hold off" notice.
Unless you have a government issued phones, that is exactly right. We can't link our Fed email sent to personal cell phones. I hate the policy, but it is what it isLogos Stick said:TheNotoriousP.I.P. said:
Have a buddy who is on leave until the end of next week and doesn't have his computer or phone. I suppose y'all are cool with him being fired for not responding?
I bet he also works 65 hours per week too, right!
It keeps getting better. If you are in the private sector, you have access to email 24x7x365. In the Federal government, not so much.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
Not shocked. The few attorneys I have dealt with there probably couldn't type this up. How they passed law school is a mystery to me.
TheNotoriousP.I.P. said:
Thank you for confirming your lack of humanity, at least you're honest
Ag_SGT said:If it was legal, I'd do the same but it is not right nowQuote:
I use my personal phone as my company phone…
Weird…I still know NASA folks…civil servants…their work emails come to their personal phones…
Guess they found a way around it…
They also have some encryption app downloaded on their phones that is required…
In the end, the deadline is midnight Monday, I will hold off until very late in the day. Unless we get guidance, I will be sending the email. I already provide the same thing to my boss each Thursday
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
Sorry yall aren't getting much sympathy.
At this point American workers are sick and tired of fraud, laziness, waste, and sanctimony that has been coming from what come across as entitled government workers who are insulated and sheltered from the bull**** the private sector went through and COVID made it worse as alot of government workers basically collected a paycheck for logging onto the computer once a day while the rest of us either struggled to survive or lost our livelihoods and have had to rebuild.
I understand that was not all government workers but the very public *****ing and moaning government workers did when they were told to go back to work was not a good look.
At this point American workers are sick and tired of fraud, laziness, waste, and sanctimony that has been coming from what come across as entitled government workers who are insulated and sheltered from the bull**** the private sector went through and COVID made it worse as alot of government workers basically collected a paycheck for logging onto the computer once a day while the rest of us either struggled to survive or lost our livelihoods and have had to rebuild.
I understand that was not all government workers but the very public *****ing and moaning government workers did when they were told to go back to work was not a good look.
Perhaps, but those AUSA's are the ones tasked with prosecuting the border crossers. Might give them some leeway so enough stick around to do the job.
Ag_SGT said:Unless you have a government issued phones, that is exactly right. We can't link our Fed email sent to personal cell phones. I hate the policy, but it is what it isLogos Stick said:TheNotoriousP.I.P. said:
Have a buddy who is on leave until the end of next week and doesn't have his computer or phone. I suppose y'all are cool with him being fired for not responding?
I bet he also works 65 hours per week too, right!
It keeps getting better. If you are in the private sector, you have access to email 24x7x365. In the Federal government, not so much.
Blame stupid Tik Tok.
I am ok with starting over. I get I am making a generalization based on the few I have dealt with but they were such idiots. When an idiot attorney ends a meeting because they are frustrated they prove to be complete ****ing morons.
When I worked for the VA I was able to link work email to my private phone, I was also able to use my personal computer to link to a VPN to work from home on my IMac. That was in 2018 or so and that change has remained the same since thenFireAg said:Ag_SGT said:If it was legal, I'd do the same but it is not right nowQuote:
I use my personal phone as my company phone…
Weird…I still know NASA folks…civil servants…their work emails come to their personal phones…
Guess they found a way around it…
They also have some encryption app downloaded on their phones that is required…
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
I like this. Make federal employees be productive or get rid of them. There has always been this mentality that government is inefficient and there is nothing we can do about it due to human nature and other reasons. I've always disagreed with that. Many conservatives have said that if the government was run like a successful business, it would be much more efficient. Just because our government has purposely been allowed to remain bloated, inefficient, and wasteful doesn't mean that it has to remain that way. The only ones crying about all of this are the people that realize the grift is up. Not a single one of these people are entitled to the American peoples tax dollars to fund their livelihoods.
Exactly. The reason they are using these methods is because federal career employees have ridiculous job security. Make them all at will employees and then cut the government by 80%.Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
I like this. Make federal employees be productive or get rid of them. There has always been this mentality that government is inefficient and there is nothing we can do about it due to human nature and other reasons. I've always disagreed with that. Many conservatives have said that if the government was run like a successful business, it would be much more efficient. Just because our government has purposely been allowed to remain bloated, inefficient, and wasteful doesn't mean that it has to remain that way. The only ones crying about all of this are the people that realize the grift is up. Not a single one of these people are entitled to the American peoples tax dollars to fund their livelihoods.
Since, that is not currently feasible, we have these FF games being played by DOGE.
Tom Fox said:Exactly. The reason they are using these methods is because federal career employees have ridiculous job security. Make them all at will employees and then cut the government by 80%.Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
I like this. Make federal employees be productive or get rid of them. There has always been this mentality that government is inefficient and there is nothing we can do about it due to human nature and other reasons. I've always disagreed with that. Many conservatives have said that if the government was run like a successful business, it would be much more efficient. Just because our government has purposely been allowed to remain bloated, inefficient, and wasteful doesn't mean that it has to remain that way. The only ones crying about all of this are the people that realize the grift is up. Not a single one of these people are entitled to the American peoples tax dollars to fund their livelihoods.
Since, that is not currently feasible, we have these FF games being played by DOGE.
The bolded is a major problem. That's one of the big reasons our government is a corrupt, bloated, incompetent and wasteful mess.
A lot of folks in this thread are calling for something most federal jobs already require, a weekly, monthly and annual status assessments.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
EXACTLY!!! Every time I get a difficult project or customer I understand that ultimately these customers, even the most difficult ones, pay my salary and help keep my business profitable.Ellis Wyatt said:
I have email on my phone. I'm a boss. Work doesn't stop when I'm not there. They will certainly minimize communication when I'm out, but I ultimately work for customers. No customers, no paycheck. That's the real world government employees don't seem to understand.
What most federal employees fail to grasp is that WE THE PEOPLE are their customers and our taxes pay their salaries.
Ok, then work to allow federal employees to link their work related emails to their personal cell phonesProsperdick said:EXACTLY!!! Every time I get a difficult project or customer I understand that ultimately these customers, even the most difficult ones, pay my salary and help keep my business profitable.Ellis Wyatt said:
I have email on my phone. I'm a boss. Work doesn't stop when I'm not there. They will certainly minimize communication when I'm out, but I ultimately work for customers. No customers, no paycheck. That's the real world government employees don't seem to understand.
What most federal employees fail to grasp is that WE THE PEOPLE are their customers and our taxes pay their salaries.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
Tom Fox said:clw04 said:I'm sure that they do - I meet with them oftenTom Fox said:clw04 said:NASA - Avionics for a Spacecraft.Tom Fox said:clw04 said:I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.Ol_Ag_02 said:
Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
Just add Daddy Elon to the recipient list of the weekly email to your boss.
What agency do you work for? What do you do at the agency?
Perfect! I bet Elon knows someone at SpaceX thatcan see if you are any good at your job.
My former coworkers at HSI told me they are exempt. How are you at catching tonks? All hands on deck.
In all seriousness, I love NASA and have great respect for what you do. I would exempt NASA from the coming purge because I think they do a great service for all of mankind.
I would rather gut entitlements and increase your funding than pay for deadbeats. Unfortunately, I do not think I am in the majority of voters.
At least for good or bad, Elon will know whether your job is valuable or not. He won't for some random employees at the US Forest Service.
Maybe the space part of NASA, but not all aspects of the agency.
https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/causes/
I wonder if anyone will verify any of the self-written reports?
It's not like some lazy Fed slacker is going to report "Uh, I really didn't do much of anything this week ". Their direct supervisor should have to sign off and face termination too with any fluffed up reports.
It's not like some lazy Fed slacker is going to report "Uh, I really didn't do much of anything this week ". Their direct supervisor should have to sign off and face termination too with any fluffed up reports.
I don't think its that different for other private industries that have export/ITAR related information in their e-mail. I couldn't take my company phone on personal international travel because it was considered an export of information. If you want to remove that excuse, then change the export rules to allow it. Its not really a private enterprise versus federal worker thing - its a ITAR/EAR thing.Ag_SGT said:Ok, then work to allow federal employees to link their work related emails to their personal cell phonesProsperdick said:EXACTLY!!! Every time I get a difficult project or customer I understand that ultimately these customers, even the most difficult ones, pay my salary and help keep my business profitable.Ellis Wyatt said:
I have email on my phone. I'm a boss. Work doesn't stop when I'm not there. They will certainly minimize communication when I'm out, but I ultimately work for customers. No customers, no paycheck. That's the real world government employees don't seem to understand.
What most federal employees fail to grasp is that WE THE PEOPLE are their customers and our taxes pay their salaries.
You're doing the right thing. And I have no doubt you do a good job for the public.
— Redpill Mill (@RedpillMill3) February 22, 2025
If I had to respond to the email it would look like this:
"Sir, like you I was MAGA. Thats making America Great Again."
"Sir, like you I was MAGA. Thats making America Great Again."
“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Are you reporting to work in person or working "remote?" Serious question.clw04 said:I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.Ol_Ag_02 said:
Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
cheeky said:Are you reporting to work in person or working "remote?" Serious question.clw04 said:I provide weekly reports to my boss with details that apply to them - my boss provides reports to their boss - how many of you provide weekly reports to your HR team - I never did that when I worked in industry but maybe things have changed now.Ol_Ag_02 said:
Heaven forbid you have to provide a weekly status report. Public employees never fail to impress.
I've been in the office 4 days a week since we went back after COVID - will now be there all 5 days.
One day I planned on retiring, after retirement I planned on getting a stay at home government job where I didn't have To work but I could get a paycheck. I figured after paying all these taxes and social security over the years they could pay me back by giving me that job / no job with a pay check. Now yall are ruining all my plans to get that retirement paycheck, Elon is making people actually work now. What is this world coming to where government employees have to show up and work.
lol….. I'm joking … I could never pull a paycheck and not actually work, who the hell expects that? Now they are asked to be accountable and they don't want to…. Well then learn pick vegetables
lol….. I'm joking … I could never pull a paycheck and not actually work, who the hell expects that? Now they are asked to be accountable and they don't want to…. Well then learn pick vegetables
I'm guessing AI willl read it but then do what exactly?98Ag99Grad said:
No one is going to read all those emails. They just want more people to quit.
And is someone is actually paid to read all those emails DOGE should fire them because it's a waste of money
Forward it to your manager for review if it doesn't like it?
There are 3mm govt employees. The initial pass will not be a human if it all goes to one address
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When someone is evaluating the workforce to understand who is or isn't pulling their weight this doesn't seem out of line at all. My question though is that with over two million federal employees and only a handful of 'auditors', who is going to review all the weekly emails? And not just read them but know enough about the jobs in question along with the judgment to make decisions about what they're reading?
Yes, as some have mentioned, AI, but AI is still emerging technology and doesn't have human judgment ability.
Yes, as some have mentioned, AI, but AI is still emerging technology and doesn't have human judgment ability.
I would just reply with the 5 bullet points no matter if I was told to "hold off" by a department head under the guise of "just making sure I am complying". They will be cc'd anyway and it won't hurt to reiterate what I did last week.
Musk was given a directive by POTUS to do more and do it faster. This seems to be his response to that order.
And Musk doesn't appear to be looking for anything complicated.
Musk was given a directive by POTUS to do more and do it faster. This seems to be his response to that order.
Will do, Mr. President! pic.twitter.com/2VMS2wY7mw
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 22, 2025
And Musk doesn't appear to be looking for anything complicated.
That would be a very impressive and long list indeed for you!
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 23, 2025
However, the passing grade is literally just “Can you send an email with words that make any sense at all?”.
It’s a low bar. https://t.co/D3AlfUfdeQ
Who said this will be weekly? It may just be a one time thing to see what comes back and who complies.AggiePops said:
When someone is evaluating the workforce to understand who is or isn't pulling their weight this doesn't seem out of line at all. My question though is that with over two million federal employees and only a handful of 'auditors', who is going to review all the weekly emails? And not just read them but know enough about the jobs in question along with the judgment to make decisions about what they're reading?
Yes, as some have mentioned, AI, but AI is still emerging technology and doesn't have human judgment ability.
I would just take my job description and scribble out something that sounds decent. One thing I learned in corporate America is that when some doofus asks for something like this, that doofus has no idea what I do so I can pretty much tell them whatever.
AggiePops said:
When someone is evaluating the workforce to understand who is or isn't pulling their weight this doesn't seem out of line at all. My question though is that with over two million federal employees and only a handful of 'auditors', who is going to review all the weekly emails? And not just read them but know enough about the jobs in question along with the judgment to make decisions about what they're reading?
Yes, as some have mentioned, AI, but AI is still emerging technology and doesn't have human judgment ability.
Trump and musk are going to need a committee. And they will need to have meetings. These amateurs are finding out how and why the government is inefficient by building the inefficiency themselves. They have both highlighted how a lot of work on paper equates to nearly nothing in reality. It's a cute experiment but it reminds me of an Andy Griffith episode where Barney Fife is rooting out crime.
Yeah, people asking for accountability from their subordinates are just doofuses. It's not like we've discovered that we've been sending trillions of dollars to all sorts of places that are essentially untraceable. Certainly the same people doing that and never once rejecting sending payments couldn't possibly have "fake employees" on their payrolls, people who haven't had to show their faces in the office for five years.
At this point, I'd say it's about verifying that these are call real people doing real work. That isn't Big Brother or some doofus asking for stuff he knows nothing about.
At this point, I'd say it's about verifying that these are call real people doing real work. That isn't Big Brother or some doofus asking for stuff he knows nothing about.
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