Vance asked him why he would litigate this in the oval office in front of the media when they could discuss this in private. The midget then carried on. Zellenskyy opened the can of worms.infinity ag said:Jbob04 said:
Dude quit being so slow. Z went completely off script and Trump had to respond. If Z would have signed the deal like planned this wouldn't have happened.
Fighting in front of the cameras is dumb and unprofessional so stop justifying it.
If Z went off script, Trump could have said we disagree and held another meeting to hash it out.
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Because it will take concessions by both sides.Bones08 said:
I'm ignorant here. Why is the lack of peace Zelensky's fault and not Putin's fault?
Ukraine is not in a position to negotiate. They need us to assist with that. If they give us minerals, in exchange for leverage, they can negotiate peace.
Without us, they will lose. Trump and JD know this. Russia knows this. Everyone knows this.
But Z is being very very short sighted.
I hope he's searching real estate brochures for where he's going to spend his exile now.Quote:
He's a hero because when the entire western world was making plans to give Ukraine to Russia and was negotiating his exile. He held his country together
vansprinkle said:infinity ag said:
So no minerals out of Ukraine for Trump.
Let them keep their minerals. Russia can roll them over and we will cut a deal with the Russians for the former Ukrainian minerals.
It's okay - we can go get Congo's. We just have to carpet bomb a few rebels and Rwandans. Acceptable casualties and less involved.
Trump being trump isn't "felating" anyone. You are so full of it.Teslag said:Jbob04 said:
Dude quit being so slow. Z went completely off script and Trump had to respond. If Z would have signed the deal like planned this wouldn't have happened.
Trump went off first when he started felating Russia and Z responded
So, war is not ending in 24 hours?
Ellis Wyatt said:I hope he's searching real estate brochures for where he's going to spend his exile now.Quote:
He's a hero because when the entire western world was making plans to give Ukraine to Russia and was negotiating his exile. He held his country together
This idiot probably spends most of his time somewhere other than Ukraine
Seems Zelensky is unwilling to negotiate peace at this time. He'd prefer to keep the grift of US tax dollars going.Bones08 said:
I'm ignorant here. Why is the lack of peace Zelensky's fault and not Putin's fault?
Teslag said:Science Denier said:No, Zelensky is a corrupt POS, but not ungrateful. He doesn't want his gravy train to end. He's getting rich along with alot of politicians by the war continuing.TheEternalOptimist said:
I was right.
Zelensky is a disrespectful and ungrateful snake.
This is not our fight.
If Europe wants to save Ukraine.... then by all means...... let them.
He DGAF about "his people". he will sacrifice every single Ukranian citizen to get a bit richer.
Can you at least attribute this line of thought to the Russian government rather than outright plagiarism of them?
I'm just curious if you've acknowledged anything the us may have done to provoke russia?
If you can't even acknowledge the obvious instances you're not worth discussing with
captkirk said:Seems Zelensky is unwilling to negotiate peace at this time. He'd prefer to keep the grift of US tax dollars going.Bones08 said:
I'm ignorant here. Why is the lack of peace Zelensky's fault and not Putin's fault?
The Ukrainian ambassador covered her face when Zelensky CONTINUOUSLY tried speaking over Trump and Vance in the Oval Office
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) February 28, 2025
She knows it’s ALL over.
Great job, Dictator Zelensky pic.twitter.com/N37aluVHqE
He did that all by his lonesome?rootube said:
He's a hero because when the entire western world was making plans to give Ukraine to Russia and was negotiating his exile. He held his country together and they pushed the second largest military in the world back to the border and out of the Black Sea. Russia has lost this war already. Today we just aligned ourselves with the losers and against all of Europe and Ukraine. I'm also confident that China is happy to know that there is nothing stopping them from taking Taiwan.
Or did a very powerful ally save his bacon with money and equipment?
Nah, Zellenskyy is a badass genius and a hero. Send him some more cash.Fitch said:The Ukrainian ambassador covered her face when Zelensky CONTINUOUSLY tried speaking over Trump and Vance in the Oval Office
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) February 28, 2025
She knows it’s ALL over.
Great job, Dictator Zelensky pic.twitter.com/N37aluVHqE
How about attribute it to facts?Teslag said:Science Denier said:No, Zelensky is a corrupt POS, but not ungrateful. He doesn't want his gravy train to end. He's getting rich along with alot of politicians by the war continuing.TheEternalOptimist said:
I was right.
Zelensky is a disrespectful and ungrateful snake.
This is not our fight.
If Europe wants to save Ukraine.... then by all means...... let them.
He DGAF about "his people". he will sacrifice every single Ukranian citizen to get a bit richer.
Can you at least attribute this line of thought to the Russian government rather than outright plagiarism of them?
Zelensky is right, Putin cannot be trusted. Trump and Vance were wrong to humiliate him in world wide TV. They were terrible hosts. Putin is jumping with joy.mallen said:
Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.z
Anyone need anymore proof that the "quid pro quo" impeachment was absolute bull*****
Nailed it.oh no said:
getting sick of the war mongering blood lusting commies claiming that anyone is "siding with the Russians".
If you're Russia, you sat there and watched the CIA help install an anti-Russia government next door in your former state in the maidan revolution in 2014. You sat there and watched the west put labs next door. You sat there want watched the west flirt with admitting yet another one of your next door neighbors into NATO, something they promised they'd never do, so they can be even more bold with military installations on your doorstep. You sat there and watched the corruption get worse and worse- complete with foreign elites placing their crackhead sons on the boards of their gas companies. You sat there and let a foreign "leader" bait you with "minor incursion" invitation. You know foreign meddlers sabotaged a multibillion dollar subsea energy project that was going to bring economic prosperity for both you and your western allies. You watched the US send Borris to Istanbul to prevent Lord Z from making a peace deal. All of this while knowing a large portion of the population of this former soviet state actually wants to be part of Russia and they all speak Russian. Should they have gotten so bold after watching the weakness of our Afghan exit and taken Joe Biden up on the minor incursion invitation? Probably not, but that does not make Ukraine the holy righteous good guys that need to be defended at all costs. We've paid them enough and will get zero return. Enough people have died. Both sides want peace except for the western intel and defense communities that want a russian regime change and forever wars. Russia is not a threat to the rest of Europe or the US. Make a deal and stop the killing. Keep Russia close instead of driving them closer and more dependent on China and Iran. Let them sell gas to Europe. That is not "siding with the Russians". That is the right thing to do.
Fitch said:The Ukrainian ambassador covered her face when Zelensky CONTINUOUSLY tried speaking over Trump and Vance in the Oval Office
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) February 28, 2025
She knows it’s ALL over.
Great job, Dictator Zelensky pic.twitter.com/N37aluVHqE
That is very sad, and very funny....all at the same time.
No matter what side you fall on,
to say that was a colossal blunder by Zelensky
would be an understatement.
to say that was a colossal blunder by Zelensky
would be an understatement.
Sounds a lot like what we were using USAID funds for in Romania.Farmer_J said:
This is why zelensky won't have elections. The ukrainian government was handpicked by the u s state department after the c.I a overthrew the country.
What's funny is that there are people here who actually believe that Zellensky is a lone ranger in all of this, and not someone's puppet.AgGrad99 said:He did that all by his lonesome?rootube said:
He's a hero because when the entire western world was making plans to give Ukraine to Russia and was negotiating his exile. He held his country together and they pushed the second largest military in the world back to the border and out of the Black Sea. Russia has lost this war already. Today we just aligned ourselves with the losers and against all of Europe and Ukraine. I'm also confident that China is happy to know that there is nothing stopping them from taking Taiwan.
Or did a very powerful ally save his bacon with money and equipment?
mallen said:
Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.
This has 66 stars..... astounding
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
malibucharles said:Zelensky is right, Putin cannot be trusted. Trump and Vance were wrong to humiliate him in world wide TV. They were terrible hosts. Putin is jumping with joy.mallen said:
Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.z
This isnt a 'pick one or the other' situation. This isn't about siding with Putin or siding with Zelensky.
Both sides will need to agree to concessions. But right now, one side is aiming the guns at himself.
Mr.Bond said:mallen said:
Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.
This has 66 stars..... astounding
Lots of soy boys post here unfortunately
RafterAg223 said:What's funny is that there are people here who actually believe that Zellensky is a lone ranger in all of this, and not someone's puppet.AgGrad99 said:He did that all by his lonesome?rootube said:
He's a hero because when the entire western world was making plans to give Ukraine to Russia and was negotiating his exile. He held his country together and they pushed the second largest military in the world back to the border and out of the Black Sea. Russia has lost this war already. Today we just aligned ourselves with the losers and against all of Europe and Ukraine. I'm also confident that China is happy to know that there is nothing stopping them from taking Taiwan.
Or did a very powerful ally save his bacon with money and equipment?
It's too sad to be funny.
malibucharles said:Zelensky is right, Putin cannot be trusted. Trump and Vance were wrong to humiliate him in world wide TV. They were terrible hosts. Putin is jumping with joy.mallen said:
Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.z
You're full of it. No American president, I don't care who it is, should bend over and kiss another leaders ass in the Oval Office. Trump didn't start that but he sure finished it.
Someone hates America and won't ever see a dime of my business.redcrayon said:Did you intend to post this from your business account??Jay@AgsReward.com said:
It is amazing that a country invades a sovereign country and we are on the side of the invaders. That is the heart of the matter and it is disturbing.
Rockdoc said:malibucharles said:Zelensky is right, Putin cannot be trusted. Trump and Vance were wrong to humiliate him in world wide TV. They were terrible hosts. Putin is jumping with joy.mallen said:
Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.z
You're full of it. No American president, I don't care who it is, should bend over and kiss another leaders ass in the Oval Office. Trump didn't start that but he sure finished it.
infinity ag said:Jbob04 said:
Dude quit being so slow. Z went completely off script and Trump had to respond. If Z would have signed the deal like planned this wouldn't have happened.
Fighting in front of the cameras is dumb and unprofessional so stop justifying it.
If Z went off script, Trump could have said we disagree and held another meeting to hash it out.
Says who?
Why is it dumb to defend your country when an ungrateful little **** tries to perform his song & dance for our media whilst in the Oval Office as a GUEST of POTUS?
Why is it unprofessional? Their voices were barely raised, no foul language, no unnecessary name calling.
I have been in many a meeting that got heated in tense when the stakes are high. It happens and typically leads to a much quicker coming to terms by all parties.
Do you have a book on Smart, Professional Behavior Whilst Conducting International Relations in the Oval Office handbook you can share?
This should be post of the year on TexAgs. Cannot star enough!oh no said:
getting sick of the war mongering blood lusting commies claiming that anyone is "siding with the Russians".
If you're Russia, you sat there and watched the CIA help install an anti-Russia government next door in your former state in the maidan revolution in 2014. You sat there and watched the west put labs next door. You sat there want watched the west flirt with admitting yet another one of your next door neighbors into NATO, something they promised they'd never do, so they can be even more bold with military installations on your doorstep. You sat there and watched the corruption get worse and worse- complete with foreign elites placing their crackhead sons on the boards of their gas companies. You sat there and let a foreign "leader" bait you with "minor incursion" invitation. You know foreign meddlers sabotaged a multibillion dollar subsea energy project that was going to bring economic prosperity for both you and your western allies. You watched the US send Borris to Istanbul to prevent Lord Z from making a peace deal. All of this while knowing a large portion of the population of this former soviet state actually wants to be part of Russia and they all speak Russian. Should they have gotten so bold after watching the weakness of our Afghan exit and taken Joe Biden up on the minor incursion invitation? Probably not, but that does not make Ukraine the holy righteous good guys that need to be defended at all costs. We've paid them enough and will get zero return. Enough people have died. Both sides want peace except for the western intel and defense communities that want a russian regime change and forever wars. Russia is not a threat to the rest of Europe or the US. Make a deal and stop the killing. Keep Russia close instead of driving them closer and more dependent on China and Iran. Let them sell gas to Europe. That is not "siding with the Russians". That is the right thing to do.
It really is. I've been stupefied by the war proponent sect of my fellow Americans for many years now.
We mock the MSM pretty broadly here but the reach is quite strong still.
We mock the MSM pretty broadly here but the reach is quite strong still.
redcrayon said:Did you intend to post this from your business account??Jay@AgsReward.com said:
It is amazing that a country invades a sovereign country and we are on the side of the invaders. That is the heart of the matter and it is disturbing.
I noticed he posted that and hasn't been back
Quote:
What's funny is that there are people here who actually believe that Zellensky is a lone ranger in all of this, and not someone's puppet.
The fact that so many people starred the post calling him a hero speaks volumes.
No one is a hero here. Not Putin, Not Zelensky, not the EU nations for marching this conflict down the road, not the US for funneling Billions to Ukraine.
This is a disaster that needs to stop. But Zelensky is a moron who's propagating more conflict.
infinity ag said:Hank the Grifter said:infinity ag said:Hank the Grifter said:infinity ag said:
The look was bad. They should have talked this through in private. Fighting in public is not a good look.
Fight all you want inside a room.
You understand that this was Zelensky's doing don't you? He attempted to take Trump to task in front of the media. It blew up in his face. Massively.
For that to have happened, they should have had an agreement privately. Don't think that happened.
How do you know they didn't?
What's more likely? A desperate guy who just got the financial spigot turned off on him goes rogue in a last gasp attempt to garner support from the suckers in this country or Trump forgot how to negotiate?
Get serious.
What will "going rogue" do? It is more in his interest to lick Trump's boots.
So no, he did not go rogue.
He very clearly did. This is basic common sense and further evidenced by his begging to stay at the WH after the dog and pony show.
Your goal tending here is absolutely ridiculous.
It's clear you have TDS and are incapable of thinking beyond what you're spoonfed.
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