President Trump greets Zelenskyy at the White House: “He’s all dressed up today"pic.twitter.com/ic1427T1RT
— Rantingly (@rantinglydotcom) February 28, 2025
LOLOLAg1188 said:Trump and JD "eyeliner" Vance want to take all of Ukraine's minerals WITHOUT giving a security guarantee. When did the Republican Party become led by communists? This is embarrassing. Absolute lowest life forms are leading that party and our country.strbrst777 said:
Z is a rude, ungrateful, disgusting jerk. The meeting was on TV.
AgGrad99 said:
'He's all dressed up today'President Trump greets Zelenskyy at the White House: “He’s all dressed up today"pic.twitter.com/ic1427T1RT
— Rantingly (@rantinglydotcom) February 28, 2025
Good for him. Hopefully the loss in support over here was worth it for his goals.rootube said:Gigem314 said:They could always borrow Al Green...calling for impeachment is his specialty.aggiehawg said:
WHOA! Is this being reported anywhere else?🇺🇦 BREAKING: Ukrainian MP Oleksandr Dubinsky just called for an Emergency Session of Ukraine’s Parliament to initiate IMPEACHMENT Proceedings against President Zelensky after the Oval Office shouting match.
— Cillian (@CilComLFC) February 28, 2025
This is HUGE. Zelensky’s Regime is collapsing in real time. pic.twitter.com/cWE0m5be6s
Zelenskyy has better approval ratings than Trump. I expect them to only go up after today.
Again, you libs LOVE to spike the ball before the play is over.AggieShanks said:
He had a negotiation live on television to pressure Zelensky to make the deal because it means more for Trump's legacy to say he negotiated peace. Instead, Zelensky defended his country, called a buck a buck, and went home. Trump was already pulling support. He ran on that, so, nothing changed. Only thing it showed us was that Trump really isn't this strongman that can force peace. He's like any other president. A leader of one country with waning influence abroad.
I'd wait until the end to see how this plays out, before definitively judging the outcome. The world thinks Zelensky screwed up, his own party is calling for him to be impeached and he has absolutely zero leverage.AggieShanks said:
He had a negotiation live on television to pressure Zelensky to make the deal because it means more for Trump's legacy to say he negotiated peace. Instead, Zelensky defended his country, called a buck a buck, and went home. Trump was already pulling support. He ran on that, so, nothing changed. Only thing it showed us was that Trump really isn't this strongman that can force peace. He's like any other president. A leader of one country with waning influence abroad.
AggieShanks said:
He had a negotiation live on television to pressure Zelensky to make the deal because it means more for Trump's legacy to say he negotiated peace. Instead, Zelensky defended his country, called a buck a buck, and went home. Trump was already pulling support. He ran on that, so, nothing changed. Only thing it showed us was that Trump really isn't this strongman that can force peace. He's like any other president. A leader of one country with waning influence abroad.
I watched the entire press conference with Zelensky. There was 40 minutes of discussion up to the argument. Most people saw at most the last ten minutes. The whole video gives the proper context.
— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) February 28, 2025
When I first watched the argument without the proper context, I thought it was…
What support?Gigem314 said:Good for him. Hopefully the loss in support over here was worth it for his goals.rootube said:Gigem314 said:They could always borrow Al Green...calling for impeachment is his specialty.aggiehawg said:
WHOA! Is this being reported anywhere else?🇺🇦 BREAKING: Ukrainian MP Oleksandr Dubinsky just called for an Emergency Session of Ukraine’s Parliament to initiate IMPEACHMENT Proceedings against President Zelensky after the Oval Office shouting match.
— Cillian (@CilComLFC) February 28, 2025
This is HUGE. Zelensky’s Regime is collapsing in real time. pic.twitter.com/cWE0m5be6s
Zelenskyy has better approval ratings than Trump. I expect them to only go up after today.
We will all be speaking Chinese?Heineken-Ashi said:What specifically is going to happen that will be evident in 20 years?chickencoupe16 said:
Trump was the best choice in the election and is right about a lot of things. He is absolutely wrong about this and in 20 years, most people will realize it.
45-70Ag said:Luxembourg stands with Ukraine. You are fighting for your freedom and a rules based international order. 🇱🇺🇺🇦
— Luc Frieden (@LucFrieden) February 28, 2025
lol
And they've got zero capacity to help.
Gee, wonder how that happened?AggieShanks said:
A leader of one country with waning influence abroad.
Then it sounds like we to get our money out of Ukraine and start applying it to the real threat.richardag said:We will all be speaking Chinese?Heineken-Ashi said:What specifically is going to happen that will be evident in 20 years?chickencoupe16 said:
Trump was the best choice in the election and is right about a lot of things. He is absolutely wrong about this and in 20 years, most people will realize it.
BlueSmoke said:
Zelensky seems wrapped in righteous indignation and the invasion he feels he is the center-point for the country. I do feel that he cares, but he's missing the bigger picture that there are no winners in this conflict. They can't expel Russia and even is Russia took Ukraine, they can't hold it. It would deplete the last of their forces, then it becomes Baghdad on a much bigger scale.
There's no winning this from either side.
And :sam callahan said:
Zelensky is an entitled grifting twerp.
And Putin is a power hungry enemy of his own people.
We have no business taking sides in this.
🇺🇦 BREAKING: Ukrainian MP Oleksandr Dubinsky just called for an Emergency Session of Ukraine’s Parliament to initiate IMPEACHMENT Proceedings against President Zelensky after the Oval Office shouting match.
— Cillian (@CilComLFC) February 28, 2025
This is HUGE. Zelensky’s Regime is collapsing in real time. pic.twitter.com/cWE0m5be6s
Trump did what he did not for his legacy, but because he thinks it's in America's better interests to pull support from what's becoming a never-ending mess that your boy Biden allowed to fester with no strategy or plan. Trump is looking out for his own country. If Zelensky thinks he's better off taking his ball and going home, so be it. More power to him. I'm sure he's got this.AggieShanks said:
He had a negotiation live on television to pressure Zelensky to make the deal because it means more for Trump's legacy to say he negotiated peace. Instead, Zelensky defended his country, called a buck a buck, and went home. Trump was already pulling support. He ran on that, so, nothing changed. Only thing it showed us was that Trump really isn't this strongman that can force peace. He's like any other president. A leader of one country with waning influence abroad.
The second greatest diplomat in history behind Winston Churchill would have shown far more tact when dealing with one of the primary sources that is keeping his nation in the fight. More so if he really believes Trump is unhinged or Putin's puppet. He overplayed his hand trying to look good for his European buddies who are only going to go so far in helping him obtain Ukraine's goals in this fight.rootube said:buzzardb267 said:
Zelensky showed exactly who he is. He is no diplomat. He is a little guy held up as a hero which just feeds his Napoleonic complex. He couldn't stand no being a showman and trying to be "macho" and feeding his ego.
Zelenskyy has managed to keep his country in the fight with the second largest military in the world for three years. He's probably going to go down as the second greatest diplomat in history behind Winston Churchill. Trump on the other hand boasted he could end this war in 24 hours.
Lol. Luxembourg…laughable.Brother Shamus said:45-70Ag said:Luxembourg stands with Ukraine. You are fighting for your freedom and a rules based international order. 🇱🇺🇺🇦
— Luc Frieden (@LucFrieden) February 28, 2025
lol
And they've got zero capacity to help.
I think a speed bump has more impact on deterring advancing forces.
Funny how they're quick to spin this as Trump failing and America having no influence...yet they were silent for 4 years as Russia and other countries took action as if they had no respect for how the U.S. would respond.Slicer97 said:Gee, wonder how that happened?AggieShanks said:
A leader of one country with waning influence abroad.
rootube said:BlueSmoke said:
Zelensky seems wrapped in righteous indignation and the invasion he feels he is the center-point for the country. I do feel that he cares, but he's missing the bigger picture that there are no winners in this conflict. They can't expel Russia and even is Russia took Ukraine, they can't hold it. It would deplete the last of their forces, then it becomes Baghdad on a much bigger scale.
There's no winning this from either side.
What do you do if you are Zelenskyy?
After the fall of the Soviet Union your country gave up their nuclear weapons in exchange for security guarantees from the US and Russia as part of the Budapest memo to "Protect Ukraine's territorial integrity". Something that everyone naively thought would make the world safer.
Flash forward to 2014 and Russia takes Crimea and the Donbas which are part of Ukraine. The countries eventually sign the Minsk Agreement to stop the war in the Donbas. Russia breaks that agreement and continues to push forward in the Donbas eventually leading to the full scale invasion of Ukraine in '22. Surely you can appreciate how the Ukrainians would be skeptical of a deal with no security guarantees. You have to either naively believe that Russia has changed or make the calculation that you can improve your position with actual guarantees from Europe.
Bird Poo said:Biz Ag said:
Can you imagine Churchill or De Gaulle speaking to FDR like that?
I hope he takes his ball, goes home and goes this alone.Gigem314 said:Trump did what he did not for his legacy, but because he thinks it's in America's better interests to pull support from what's becoming a never-ending mess that your boy Biden allowed to fester with no strategy or plan. Trump is looking out for his own country. If Zelensky thinks he's better off taking his ball and going home, so be it. More power to him. I'm sure he's got this.AggieShanks said:
He had a negotiation live on television to pressure Zelensky to make the deal because it means more for Trump's legacy to say he negotiated peace. Instead, Zelensky defended his country, called a buck a buck, and went home. Trump was already pulling support. He ran on that, so, nothing changed. Only thing it showed us was that Trump really isn't this strongman that can force peace. He's like any other president. A leader of one country with waning influence abroad.
You missed my point completely.Teslag said:aTm2004 said:MouthBQ98 said:
The Ukrainian constitution requires elections be put on hold during wartime, apparently, as a wartime election would be of dubious legitimacy.
So, he has an incentive to continue the war?
Ya, the incentive is there's a foreign country on his soil killing his people
I'm amazed at the crazy things some of you choose to believe to appease your hatred for Trump.1876er said:What support?Gigem314 said:Good for him. Hopefully the loss in support over here was worth it for his goals.rootube said:Gigem314 said:They could always borrow Al Green...calling for impeachment is his specialty.aggiehawg said:
WHOA! Is this being reported anywhere else?🇺🇦 BREAKING: Ukrainian MP Oleksandr Dubinsky just called for an Emergency Session of Ukraine’s Parliament to initiate IMPEACHMENT Proceedings against President Zelensky after the Oval Office shouting match.
— Cillian (@CilComLFC) February 28, 2025
This is HUGE. Zelensky’s Regime is collapsing in real time. pic.twitter.com/cWE0m5be6s
Zelenskyy has better approval ratings than Trump. I expect them to only go up after today.
Trump and his buddies have all sided with Russia.
I would say this policy that you think is so brilliant isn't working today. They already feel little to no obligation to follow our lead. They formed the EU to compete with us and reduce our influence. They have attacked freedom of speech and embraced socialism. Yet they continue to take advantage of us by letting us invest in their protection. Doesn't make sense any more.Hullabaloonatic said:
You can either have a world where you are the global hegemon and all your allies do what you say and are inextricably bound to your economy, or you can have a world where you demand Europe remilitarizes to "pay its way" only to discover it no longer feels obliged to follow your lead.
BREAKING: Trump is considering ending all ongoing military aid to Ukraine after today, per WaPo.
— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) February 28, 2025
45-70Ag said:
Europe has given the United States the finger for the last almost 80 years. They have never fulfilled their obligations with nato for those who are members and taken advantage of the U.S. with tariffs.
We've bailed them out multiple times over eight decades in a variety of ways and for what? Europe can't defend itself outside of tweets of solidarity with a clown dressed like the idiots at the local gun range.
Yes the circus Ukraine has become thanks to the guy you elected.GeorgiAg said:
Elect a clown, expect a circus.
Why are they entitled to guarantees when they can't guarantee us anything?rootube said:Bird Poo said:Biz Ag said:
Can you imagine Churchill or De Gaulle speaking to FDR like that?
If our offer was a minerals deal to recoup our investment with zero weapons or security guarantees. Yes.
1) If he does not want a peace deal then fine, but we dont have to pay for the war.Hullabaloonatic said:rootube said:BlueSmoke said:
Zelensky seems wrapped in righteous indignation and the invasion he feels he is the center-point for the country. I do feel that he cares, but he's missing the bigger picture that there are no winners in this conflict. They can't expel Russia and even is Russia took Ukraine, they can't hold it. It would deplete the last of their forces, then it becomes Baghdad on a much bigger scale.
There's no winning this from either side.
What do you do if you are Zelenskyy?
After the fall of the Soviet Union your country gave up their nuclear weapons in exchange for security guarantees from the US and Russia as part of the Budapest memo to "Protect Ukraine's territorial integrity". Something that everyone naively thought would make the world safer.
Flash forward to 2014 and Russia takes Crimea and the Donbas which are part of Ukraine. The countries eventually sign the Minsk Agreement to stop the war in the Donbas. Russia breaks that agreement and continues to push forward in the Donbas eventually leading to the full scale invasion of Ukraine in '22. Surely you can appreciate how the Ukrainians would be skeptical of a deal with no security guarantees. You have to either naively believe that Russia has changed or make the calculation that you can improve your position with actual guarantees from Europe.
This is something people here can't understand.
1. Why Zelensky can't just accept any peace deal
2. The US's own interests in stopping Russia and supporting a European ally.
Their brain stops functioning at "they should pay for it."
newbie11 said:Lol. Luxembourg…laughable.Brother Shamus said:45-70Ag said:Luxembourg stands with Ukraine. You are fighting for your freedom and a rules based international order. 🇱🇺🇺🇦
— Luc Frieden (@LucFrieden) February 28, 2025
lol
And they've got zero capacity to help.
I think a speed bump has more impact on deterring advancing forces.
pdc093 said:🇺🇦 BREAKING: Ukrainian MP Oleksandr Dubinsky just called for an Emergency Session of Ukraine’s Parliament to initiate IMPEACHMENT Proceedings against President Zelensky after the Oval Office shouting match.
— Cillian (@CilComLFC) February 28, 2025
This is HUGE. Zelensky’s Regime is collapsing in real time. pic.twitter.com/cWE0m5be6s
