Paxton vs Cornyn

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Sorry. NM.
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Pylon Cam said:

Trump voters chose an adulterer and a corrupt fraudster who used his position of power to stay out of prison…color me shocked. But the Republicans are *totally* the party of Christian values, right?

I hope my fellow Christians will join me in voting for the only true Christian in this race, James Talarico.

Nice try, but it isn't going to work.

If you really think Talarico is a Christian, you need help - and prayer.

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hunter2012 said:

I looked it up if you voted Republican you have to vote Republican in the runoff. If you didn't vote at all you can still vote.

This is correct.

- If you voted in the primary, you can only vote in the same party runoff.
- If you did not vote at all in the primary, you can vote in either runoff. (You must declare a party and can then only vote in a single runoff.)
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

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Lots of democrats voting for Paxton.

Why this doesn't bother more republicans in this state, or at least mildly concern them, is bewildering to me.

Huh? Usually Dems would vote in the Democrat primary lol

There is no Democrat Senator runoff. And maybe they don't care that much about the other races (since they're immaterial - whoever wins those races will lose anyways).

So, they go to the Republican primary and try to get the more "perceived" negative candidate nominated.
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Why do you think he is a Christian? What has he said or done to make you think he is a Christian?
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Zachary Klement said:

Okay, let's not act as if criticism of Paxton is because Republicans are held to some super high moral standards.


I don't really care that Paxton cheated on his wife, paid off his mistress or lied in real estate dealings. Trump did all that and I still voted for him.

My problem with Paxton is he's vulnerable in the general in a way Cornyn just wasn't. Kick and scream about this all you want, EVERY prediction market and political poll supports this. And even if he wins he may hurt republicans down ballot.

And that risk might be worth it if he was some amazing candidate, but he's not. You can count the number of votes in congress where he would have differed from Cornyn on one hand, and he's a much bigger piece of *****
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Wrong as you are usually.
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He was talking about Pylon Cam
i'm sorry i dont laugh at the right times.
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Yeah. My bad.
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3rd Coast said:

Wrong as you are usually.

You'd be better off if you used the ignore feature on that dude…
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Zachary Klement said:

Okay, let's not act as if criticism of Paxton is because Republicans are held to some super high moral standards.


I don't really care that Paxton cheated on his wife, paid off his mistress or lied in real estate dealings. Trump did all that and I still voted for him.

My problem with Paxton is he's vulnerable in the general in a way Cornyn just wasn't. Kick and scream about this all you want, EVERY prediction market and political poll supports this. And even if he wins he may hurt republicans down ballot.

And that risk might be worth it if he was some amazing candidate, but he's not. You can count the number of votes in congress where he would have differed from Cornyn on one hand, and he's a much bigger piece of *****

Generally agree with all of this.
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So let me make sure I understand the new talking point.

"Paxton iis winning because of Democrat support in the primary because they can beat him."

With 50 % of the votes counted or ~800,000 total votes. The spread is 200,000+. Even if 20% of the people who have voted are Dems, Cornyn is still losing by over 40k votes or ~5% ... is there anyone who actually believes Dems are 1 out of every 5 votes counted so far?
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Im Gipper said:

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Lots of democrats voting for Paxton.


How many?

Likely negligible number.


What Democrats didn't vote in march, but now decide to swing an election?

You can fit them all in one bus.


It won't matter because the gap is going to be pretty wide, but that's not the point. The point is that there is enough of a belief within the Democratic Party in Texas that Paxton is beatable that they have an unprecedented amount of enthusiasm for a given republican winning the primary.

Additionally the down ballot effects of Paxton are projected to be pretty detrimental for republicans. It's projected a relevant number of Cornyn voters won't show up for Paxton (whereas every Paxton voter would have shown up for Cornyn in the general) and it could have a big impact even if Paxton wins.


Even if i believe a word of what you said, nothing about it would be compelling enough for me to vote for Cornyn again. He's worthless. Not even all of the Cornyn voters you think are so numerous voted for him in the primary runoff. Not sure why you think Paxton who will win by at least 10 points somehow indicates to you that they won't vote for him in the General over a closet gay leftist.
i'm sorry i dont laugh at the right times.
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Talarico certainly portrays himself as religious -- "Christian" even. But he doesn't follow the same Bible or Christ that I follow.

This isn't a statement that Cornyn or Paxton or Trump or anyone else does; simply that Talarico very vocally and proudly does not.
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Pylon Cam said:

Trump voters chose an adulterer and a corrupt fraudster who used his position of power to stay out of prison…color me shocked. But the Republicans are *totally* the party of Christian values, right?

I hope my fellow Christians will join me in voting for the only true Christian in this race, James Talarico.

Which denomination of Christianity is OK with abortion and celebrates giving puberty blockers to kids or dudes that cut their dicks off and buys a pair of tits?
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Pylon Cam said:

Ag with kids said:

Aggie-Clausewitz said:

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I think Paxton will win but I wouldn't get too cocky. The fact that this race is competitive doesn't bode well for the GOP's chances across the country. The GOP will have to spend here instead of in more important races that are historically competitive, like Maine.

I'll never understand why Cornyn is a RINO but I do think he would clean Talarico's clock, especially with independents.

Should be interesting.


No...

This race is a microcosm race if Paxton wins in the primary.

A Republican with a lot of baggage vs a milquetoast Dem candidate that suburban white women might be willing to vote for.


It is NOT anything more than that.

I WILL agree that the Republicans will have to spend more if Paxton is the candidate than if Cornyn was the candidate, though.


Again: the fact that this is competitive does not bode well for the GOP bc they will have to spend more on this race.

I don't like Paxton at all. And I will sit out the general election rather than voting between the two.

Nevertheless, the GOP will need RINOs in Maine & Alaska to hold onto their majority. Spending more in deep red Texas makes that less likely. Seems like a silly risk to take.

This lowers the vote total that Talarico needs to win.

If your goal is to have a Democrat Senator for 6 years, you're doing the right thing to advance that.


Then the GOP shouldn't nominate someone with so much baggage. My vote is earned; I owe the GOP nothing.

That's fine. But, if Talarico wins, don't complain since you helped him do it...


No. Actually it's not my fault. I didn't nominate him. The GOP did. Blaming voters for bad candidates is a recipe for disaster.

You helped lower the barrier he had to cross to win by not voting. Paxton sucks as a human. But, he's better than Talarico (both as a human AND how he'd be as Senator).
No way you actually believe that, right? Right?! Talarico actually follows the teachings of Jesus. Paxton does not.

I seriously cannot comprehend how so many graduates of our great university have come to hold views that are so distorted from reality. These "Christian" nationalists really are wolves in sheep's clothing…father forgive them for they don't know what they do.


I've read The Bible and attend church regularly so forgive me if I missed it but where exactly does Jesus teach of 6 genders, changing the gender that God gave you, and that it's cool to murder babies? I'll wait for your answers…
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Science Denier said:

Gigem314 said:

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Rocky Rider said:

I think Paxton is worth the risk. Texans know what they are getting with the establishment incumbent and it's time to replace him.

It's safe to say we know what we are getting with both.

They both have a public track record, politically speaking.

And Paxton has clearly proven to put his money where his mouth is in regard to conservative positions and taking action there upon, whereas Cornyn has not.

Cornyn had numerous opportunities to pivot, and wouldn't. He has no one to blame but himself.

I think the longer he stayed in office with the 'Well at least he has a clean image so he'll keep winning' excuse, a Dem was bound to exploit his meekness in defending conservative policies and make him look like Romney.


Dems loved having a lib in as a Republican. They always went after Cruz's seat. Never Cornyn.
That was rather interesting, wasn't it? Cornyn had the higher ranking in the Senate. They never treated him like a threat.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

DeschutesAg said:

chris1515 said:

If it's Talarico vs Paxton that's going to be fascinating.
I think Talarico gets slaughtered.


He's currently the betting favorite against Paxton


This might be worse than your take on the origins of Covid. I hope all the bats and pangolins aren't voting for low-t
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Talarico actually follows the teachings of Jesus.

Using the term "Christian" and/or the name "Jesus" does not make him a Christian. Nothing the man stands for is a Christian value as far as I can tell.
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BadMoonRisin said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

hunter2012 said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

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Lots of democrats voting for Paxton.

Why this doesn't bother more republicans in this state, or at least mildly concern them, is bewildering to me.

(FYI, You have to vote in the first one to be able to vote for the second.)



They did

They REALLY want Paxton to be who they have to run against

source: "trust me, bro".

He's on track to win by over >350k votes. "tens of thousands" of loser democrats are a fart in the wind.
Cornyn lost because he has been worthless for 24 years, and showed his ass by trying to slow-roll the SAVE ACT, among other things. And his brisket sucks.


Again, the point isn't that it made a difference (it didn't). The point is how strongly democrats feel Paxton is the more beatable candidate. Not random democrats on the street, the democrats who get paid to do this. There are reasons they think that beyond wishcasting.
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Ag CPA said:

So it looks like we are getting Paxton, Bo French and 'MAGA Mayes" Middleton out of this.

So the only qualifications for French and Mays are "Vote for me, I'm MAGA" and "Vote for me, I love Trump."

Also, accuse your opponent, no matter the race of supporting Sharia Law, child sex trafficking, and every other buzz word that low information Republicans fall for without look beyond the words.

Texas Republicans are morons who fell for two guys who gave no reason to vote for them other than they worship Trump. It might not work in the general, and that includes the Senate race.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Zachary Klement said:

Okay, let's not act as if criticism of Paxton is because Republicans are held to some super high moral standards.


I don't really care that Paxton cheated on his wife, paid off his mistress or lied in real estate dealings. Trump did all that and I still voted for him.

My problem with Paxton is he's vulnerable in the general in a way Cornyn just wasn't. Kick and scream about this all you want, EVERY prediction market and political poll supports this. And even if he wins he may hurt republicans down ballot.

And that risk might be worth it if he was some amazing candidate, but he's not. You can count the number of votes in congress where he would have differed from Cornyn on one hand, and he's a much bigger piece of *****


LOL @ anyone who believes in polls. How have those worked out in the last 10 years?
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RED AG 98 said:

So "lots" of Democrats that couldn't be bother to vote in the Democrat primary are now enthusiastically voting for Paxton in a runoff? I have been wrong before, and I will be wrong again very soon, but I am not buying this theory. At all.
Sounds about as believable as Talarico being a kind moderate with a super serious girlfriend that thinks he's amazing.
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Talarico actually follows the teachings of Jesus.

No he doesn't, and I doubt you know anything about the actual teaching of Jesus.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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We fixed the keg said:

So let me make sure I understand the new talking point.

"Paxton iis winning because of Democrat support in the primary because they can beat him."

With 50 % of the votes counted or ~800,000 total votes. The spread is 200,000+. Even if 20% of the people who have voted are Dems, Cornyn is still losing by over 40k votes or ~5% ... is there anyone who actually believes Dems are 1 out of every 5 votes counted so far?


You do not understand
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coolerguy12 said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

DeschutesAg said:

chris1515 said:

If it's Talarico vs Paxton that's going to be fascinating.
I think Talarico gets slaughtered.


He's currently the betting favorite against Paxton


This might be worse than your take on the origins of Covid. I hope all the bats and pangolins aren't voting for low-t

You're better off not arguing with the Champion of the Jab…

Haven't taken that dude seriously in 6 years…
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In your opinion, would it be fair to say that democrats belief in that may dramatically shift given the landslide results tonight?
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David_Puddy said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

Zachary Klement said:

Okay, let's not act as if criticism of Paxton is because Republicans are held to some super high moral standards.


I don't really care that Paxton cheated on his wife, paid off his mistress or lied in real estate dealings. Trump did all that and I still voted for him.

My problem with Paxton is he's vulnerable in the general in a way Cornyn just wasn't. Kick and scream about this all you want, EVERY prediction market and political poll supports this. And even if he wins he may hurt republicans down ballot.

And that risk might be worth it if he was some amazing candidate, but he's not. You can count the number of votes in congress where he would have differed from Cornyn on one hand, and he's a much bigger piece of *****


LOL @ anyone who believes in polls. How have those worked out in the last 10 years?


State level polling in red states is historically very accurate.
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Pylon Cam said:

Ag with kids said:

Aggie-Clausewitz said:

Ag with kids said:

Aggie-Clausewitz said:

Ag with kids said:

Aggie-Clausewitz said:

Ag with kids said:

Aggie-Clausewitz said:

I think Paxton will win but I wouldn't get too cocky. The fact that this race is competitive doesn't bode well for the GOP's chances across the country. The GOP will have to spend here instead of in more important races that are historically competitive, like Maine.

I'll never understand why Cornyn is a RINO but I do think he would clean Talarico's clock, especially with independents.

Should be interesting.


No...

This race is a microcosm race if Paxton wins in the primary.

A Republican with a lot of baggage vs a milquetoast Dem candidate that suburban white women might be willing to vote for.


It is NOT anything more than that.

I WILL agree that the Republicans will have to spend more if Paxton is the candidate than if Cornyn was the candidate, though.


Again: the fact that this is competitive does not bode well for the GOP bc they will have to spend more on this race.

I don't like Paxton at all. And I will sit out the general election rather than voting between the two.

Nevertheless, the GOP will need RINOs in Maine & Alaska to hold onto their majority. Spending more in deep red Texas makes that less likely. Seems like a silly risk to take.

This lowers the vote total that Talarico needs to win.

If your goal is to have a Democrat Senator for 6 years, you're doing the right thing to advance that.


Then the GOP shouldn't nominate someone with so much baggage. My vote is earned; I owe the GOP nothing.

That's fine. But, if Talarico wins, don't complain since you helped him do it...


No. Actually it's not my fault. I didn't nominate him. The GOP did. Blaming voters for bad candidates is a recipe for disaster.

You helped lower the barrier he had to cross to win by not voting. Paxton sucks as a human. But, he's better than Talarico (both as a human AND how he'd be as Senator).
No way you actually believe that, right? Right?! Talarico actually follows the teachings of Jesus. Paxton does not.

I seriously cannot comprehend how so many graduates of our great university have come to hold views that are so distorted from reality. These "Christian" nationalists really are wolves in sheep's clothing…father forgive them for they don't know what they do.
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sanangelo said:

I am headed to the polls to vote for Cornyn. I don't think Cornyn wins. I won't vote for Talarico as I have strong enough fingers to hold my nose and vote for Paxton in November. However, I think Talarico will win in November with coattails because Trump can't finish what he started in Iran.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Don't know that Talarico wins, but there will be alot of headwinds against Paxton. Even if we get out of Iran before then, we'll see continued upward movement in the CPI and PPI and there will quite a few Cornyn voters willing to leave the Senate race blank.

Expect none of Trump's initiatives to get by the Senate the rest of the year.
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BigRobSA said:

hunter2012 said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

DeschutesAg said:

chris1515 said:

If it's Talarico vs Paxton that's going to be fascinating.

I think Talarico gets slaughtered.


He's currently the betting favorite against Paxton

Something about fools and their money are soon parted.

Yeah, Talarico is going to get hammered like he usually wants to on a Saturday night at "The Man Hole".
He definitely gives off creepy youth pastor vibes.

Whereas Paxton is honest about being 100-percent corrupt and dishonest. It's paradoxical but somehow it works.
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He also won't take the bet I threw out there a couple of pages ago.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

hunter2012 said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

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Lots of democrats voting for Paxton.

Why this doesn't bother more republicans in this state, or at least mildly concern them, is bewildering to me.

(FYI, You have to vote in the first one to be able to vote for the second.)



They did

They REALLY want Paxton to be who they have to run against

source: "trust me, bro".

He's on track to win by over >350k votes. "tens of thousands" of loser democrats are a fart in the wind.
Cornyn lost because he has been worthless for 24 years, and showed his ass by trying to slow-roll the SAVE ACT, among other things. And his brisket sucks.


Again, the point isn't that it made a difference (it didn't). The point is how strongly democrats feel Paxton is the more beatable candidate. Not random democrats on the street, the democrats who get paid to do this. There are reasons they think that beyond wishcasting.

They thought the same of Trump in 2016, especially against a Clinton.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

We fixed the keg said:

So let me make sure I understand the new talking point.

"Paxton iis winning because of Democrat support in the primary because they can beat him."

With 50 % of the votes counted or ~800,000 total votes. The spread is 200,000+. Even if 20% of the people who have voted are Dems, Cornyn is still losing by over 40k votes or ~5% ... is there anyone who actually believes Dems are 1 out of every 5 votes counted so far?


You do not understand


So the Dems purposely didn't vote in their primary so they could vote in the Rep primary so they could in turn vote in the runoff? Make it make sense.
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Danny Vermin said:

He also won't take the bet I threw out there a couple of pages ago.

It's not worth the bandwidth, friend…

No one loves to hear themselves talk more than that dude…
 
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