Paxton vs Cornyn

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Lots of democrats voting for Paxton.

Why this doesn't bother more republicans in this state, or at least mildly concern them, is bewildering to me.

(FYI, You have to vote in the first one to be able to vote for the second.)



They did

They REALLY want Paxton to be who they have to run against

source: "trust me, bro".

He's on track to win by over >350k votes. "tens of thousands" of loser democrats are a fart in the wind.
Cornyn lost because he has been worthless for 24 years, and showed his ass by trying to slow-roll the SAVE ACT, among other things. And his brisket sucks.


Again, the point isn't that it made a difference (it didn't). The point is how strongly democrats feel Paxton is the more beatable candidate. Not random democrats on the street, the democrats who get paid to do this. There are reasons they think that beyond wishcasting.


Those same democrats who are paid to know stuff conspired to have Trump win the republican nomination in 2016. Didn't you see the emails that came out where they instructed the media to pump up Trump because he was beatable.

Sorry if I don't subscribe to your panty waisted limp wristed fear mongering.
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Just like I didn't understand when Trump beating out DeSantis ensured a Democrat win for the presidency.
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We fixed the keg said:

Just like I didn't understand when Trump beating out DeSantis ensured a Democrat win for the presidency.

Ding ding ding…

Excellent point…
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The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" yellers have a horrible track record in Texas.
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Again, the point is democrats have been wrong time and time again going against Trump.


This time is different though. Keep telling us.

I'm Gipper
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Is anyone saying Paxton can't win
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Infection_Ag11 said:

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We'd be fine with closed primaries. But the sellouts in the Texas legislature tossed that aside.


I guess my point is that there's never been this kind of concerted effort in Texas by democrats to get a republican nominated. When democrats go as far as funding social media ads for a republican candidate and setting up petitions to have democrats commit to voting for them, it would seem to me they REALLY think they can beat that guy.


Do you have any actual evidence of this? You keep saying stuff like this but I haven't seen anything of substance backing it up.

The fact is, the democrats don't have a lot of money to spend on their OWN candidates; they sure don't have much to spend on Republican ones -- at least, in the primary. The money in this race went to Cornyn, not Paxton. To the extent there was ANY involvement by those outside the R party, it was to keep Cornyn as the nominee -- along the lines of "we can live with him as Senator but can't with Paxton."
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Yeah, the poster that littered this website with Chinese propaganda Twitter videos about people dropping dead on the streets over a cold virus.
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Zachary Klement said:

Is anyone saying Paxton can't win


Several posters on this thread along with all the anti-Trump talking heads on X
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Infection_Ag11 said:

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Okay, let's not act as if criticism of Paxton is because Republicans are held to some super high moral standards.


I don't really care that Paxton cheated on his wife, paid off his mistress or lied in real estate dealings. Trump did all that and I still voted for him.

My problem with Paxton is he's vulnerable in the general in a way Cornyn just wasn't. Kick and scream about this all you want, EVERY prediction market and political poll supports this. And even if he wins he may hurt republicans down ballot.

And that risk might be worth it if he was some amazing candidate, but he's not. You can count the number of votes in congress where he would have differed from Cornyn on one hand, and he's a much bigger piece of *****


LOL @ anyone who believes in polls. How have those worked out in the last 10 years?


State level polling in red states is historically very accurate.


Funny I've been voting for 26 years and not once have I been polled. If you truly believe any of what you're saying I'll happily make a bet with you. You get the Bible slandering false prophet and I get Paxton. Name the amount
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Zachary Klement said:

Is anyone saying Paxton can't win


Cornyn is
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Gaeilge said:

The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" tellers have a horrible track record in Texas.


Look, if the Dems actually ran a normal moderate Dem candidate for this Senate seat, I would be concerned…but they decided to run a candidate that suggests that Jesus was non-binary…amongst a lot of other outlandish things…that may work for Mayor of Austin, that won't play for the entire state of Texas.
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Gaeilge said:

The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" yellers have a horrible track record in Texas.


Nobody is saying Paxton can't win. He probably WILL win. The point is that Cornyn would have DEFINITELY won. And the gap between the two, politically or personally, doesn't justify that risk IMO.
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There are several…SEVERAL posters on this ver thread saying he can't win.
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I am not surprised that Ken Paxton knocked off 4-term incumbent John Cornyn in the primary runoff. I will be voting for Paxton in the general election, and I hope he defeats Democrat nominee James Talarico to keep this senate seat red.
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Have a buddy entrenched in the Texas Republican Party…

The voting margin tonight had everything to do with Trump backing Paxton…little to no real influence from D voters…

The internal numbers were tight until Trump gave his endorsement…
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Doing his best Joe Biden impression

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Infection_Ag11 said:

Gaeilge said:

The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" yellers have a horrible track record in Texas.


Nobody is saying Paxton can't win. He probably WILL win. The point is that Cornyn would have DEFINITELY won. And the gap between the two, politically or personally, doesn't justify that risk IMO.


Luckily your opinion isnt needed to win

It is necessary to remove RINOs

The polling was never set up well to gauge how Paxton will do against Talarico. Mark my words, Paxton will beat Talarico by more than the hypothetical polls of Cornyn v Talarico
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MelvinUdall said:

Gaeilge said:

The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" tellers have a horrible track record in Texas.


Look, if the Dems actually ran a normal moderate Dem candidate for this Senate seat, I would be concerned…but they decided to run a candidate that suggests that Jesus was non-binary…amongst a lot of other outlandish things…that may work for Mayor of Austin, that won't play for the entire state of Texas.


They've convinced millions of Texans that Talarico is a normal, level headed moderate. The fact that it isn't true is completely irrelevant.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Gaeilge said:

The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" yellers have a horrible track record in Texas.


Nobody is saying Paxton can't win. He probably WILL win. The point is that Cornyn would have DEFINITELY won. And the gap between the two, politically or personally, doesn't justify that risk IMO.


The Dems made a mistake again by running a weird candidate for Senate, plain and simple…even more weird than Beto.
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FireAg said:

Have a buddy entrenched in the Texas Republican Party…

The voting margin tonight had everything to do with Trump backing Paxton…little to no real influence from D voters…

The internal numbers were tight until Trump gave his endorsement…


The betting sites had it as a big Paxton lead before Trump even endorsed. It would've been Paxton the whole way
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Infection_Ag11 said:

MelvinUdall said:

Gaeilge said:

The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" tellers have a horrible track record in Texas.


Look, if the Dems actually ran a normal moderate Dem candidate for this Senate seat, I would be concerned…but they decided to run a candidate that suggests that Jesus was non-binary…amongst a lot of other outlandish things…that may work for Mayor of Austin, that won't play for the entire state of Texas.


They've convinced millions of Texans that Talarico is a normal, level headed moderate. The fact that it isn't true is completely irrelevant.


The amount of ads run against him using his own words is only just started…Paxton is a known commodity, everyone, at least most know his own failings, Talarico is a gift with his words.
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FireAg said:

Have a buddy entrenched in the Texas Republican Party…

The voting margin tonight had everything to do with Trump backing Paxton…little to no real influence from D voters…

The internal numbers were tight until Trump gave his endorsement…

I believe you but I don't think it was ever close.
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FireAg said:

Have a buddy entrenched in the Texas Republican Party…

The voting margin tonight had everything to do with Trump backing Paxton…little to no real influence from D voters…

The internal numbers were tight until Trump gave his endorsement…

The only way a Democrat could have voted in the runoff was if they had not voted at all in the primary, or they voted in the Republican primary. You can't just parties during a runoff.

And Trump swaying that many people just shows how many Republicans are sheeple just like the Democrats. They simply do whatever Trump tells them to do, such as not voting in Georgia, thus losing two Senate seats. His track record in the primaries is mediocre at best for races which actually matter in the general. His endorsement is irrelevant when no matter who wins the nomination is going to win the general by 20+.

Texas voters should be voting based on who they think is best for Texas, not who is best for Trump, or who Trump likes more. And for the record, this is not saying it should have been Cornyn or Paxton. I just don't think Trump should be involved in primaries for the reason I already stated above.
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Twisted Helix said:

FireAg said:

Have a buddy entrenched in the Texas Republican Party…

The voting margin tonight had everything to do with Trump backing Paxton…little to no real influence from D voters…

The internal numbers were tight until Trump gave his endorsement…

I believe you but I don't think k it was ever close.

It was single digits…that was the consensus…
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Iraq2xVeteran said:

I am not surprised that Ken Paxton knocked off 4-term incumbent John Cornyn in the primary runoff. I will be voting for Paxton in the general election, and I hope he defeats Democrat nominee James Talarico to keep this senate seat red.


It became inevitable when Trump endorsed him. There's a solid percentage of the modern republican voting bloc that will vote for whoever he tells them to, for better or worse.

Cornyn doesn't win if the endorsement were flipped but it would have made a high five figure vote difference.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

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The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" yellers have a horrible track record in Texas.


Nobody is saying Paxton can't win. He probably WILL win. The point is that Cornyn would have DEFINITELY won. And the gap between the two, politically or personally, doesn't justify that risk IMO.


Paxton said he would drop out if Cornyn put his old ass in gear and got the SAVE ACT in motion. So I disagree with your last sentence. That does justify the "risk", which is not as large as you attempt to pretend it is. Low T and Cornyn would have both voted either No or "Present" for the same bill that is wildly popular among all Americans. Voting for Cornyn AGAIN was the non starter.

Clearly, you have a different risk tolerance than most normal people.
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MelvinUdall said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

MelvinUdall said:

Gaeilge said:

The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" tellers have a horrible track record in Texas.


Look, if the Dems actually ran a normal moderate Dem candidate for this Senate seat, I would be concerned…but they decided to run a candidate that suggests that Jesus was non-binary…amongst a lot of other outlandish things…that may work for Mayor of Austin, that won't play for the entire state of Texas.


They've convinced millions of Texans that Talarico is a normal, level headed moderate. The fact that it isn't true is completely irrelevant.


The amount of ads run against him using his own words is only just started…Paxton is a known commodity, everyone, at least most know his own failings, Talarico is a gift with his words.


Ding ding ding and we havent even had dirty ads against talarico start.

He has so many horrible quotes from his own preacher role-playing that he's already cooked.
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The RINO Cornyn is gone.

Thank Jesus.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Gaeilge said:

The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" yellers have a horrible track record in Texas.


Nobody is saying Paxton can't win. He probably WILL win. The point is that Cornyn would have DEFINITELY won. And the gap between the two, politically or personally, doesn't justify that risk IMO.


I can see this logic. However, if we don't pass the save america act and stop immigration, it's not going to matter. Texas will go the way of california.

Deep red states should have deep red Senators.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

MelvinUdall said:

Gaeilge said:

The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" tellers have a horrible track record in Texas.


Look, if the Dems actually ran a normal moderate Dem candidate for this Senate seat, I would be concerned…but they decided to run a candidate that suggests that Jesus was non-binary…amongst a lot of other outlandish things…that may work for Mayor of Austin, that won't play for the entire state of Texas.


They've convinced millions of Texans that Talarico is a normal, level headed moderate. The fact that it isn't true is completely irrelevant.

This November election campaign is just getting started in earnest. That narrative is about to be destroyed. Paxton is going to beat Talrico like a drum. It won't be particularly close.

All the media fear mongering is nothing more than their regularly scheduled early attempt to depress Republican voters. Now that we have a chance at a real conservative for the Senate, plus a blaspheming charlatan as the Democrat opponent, Republicans will flock to the polls this November.
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MelvinUdall said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

MelvinUdall said:

Gaeilge said:

The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" tellers have a horrible track record in Texas.


Look, if the Dems actually ran a normal moderate Dem candidate for this Senate seat, I would be concerned…but they decided to run a candidate that suggests that Jesus was non-binary…amongst a lot of other outlandish things…that may work for Mayor of Austin, that won't play for the entire state of Texas.


They've convinced millions of Texans that Talarico is a normal, level headed moderate. The fact that it isn't true is completely irrelevant.


The amount of ads run against him using his own words is only just started…Paxton is a known commodity, everyone, at least most know his own failings, Talarico is a gift with his words.


I think you underestimate how little many people including many independent types care about that. I think the bubble of places like this board misleads people as to the thinking of the larger electorate.

There are TONS of moderate democrats and independents who wouldn't have voted who will turn out for Talarico because he's young, gives off a veneer of calm professionalism and isn't Ken Paxton. The election will be decided by how many of those types there are Va how many Cornyn voters don't show up for Paxton. And the issue at hand is that every Paxton voter would have voted republican still in the general no matter what. That's the nature of being the more vocally right wing candidate. There's inverse is not true.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

MelvinUdall said:

Gaeilge said:

The same people shouting that Paxton can't win are the same people that shouted Trump couldn't win on 2016. Beto would beat Cruz in 2018. Trump couldn't win in 2024. Etc.

The "FIRE" tellers have a horrible track record in Texas.


Look, if the Dems actually ran a normal moderate Dem candidate for this Senate seat, I would be concerned…but they decided to run a candidate that suggests that Jesus was non-binary…amongst a lot of other outlandish things…that may work for Mayor of Austin, that won't play for the entire state of Texas.


They've convinced millions of Texans that Talarico is a normal, level headed moderate. The fact that it isn't true is completely irrelevant.

5 months of obnoxious mail outs and commercials will disabuse them of that thinking. We live in a digital age where the Texas Monthly and other state media can't hide the horrendous heresy that low t rico has spouted. Everyone is going to know his regressive beliefs by November. There won't be enough to stomach voting for him by then.
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