FireAg said:
I want to point out that ALL of the talking heads on TV believe he has the gun in his pants and is limping BEFORE the shooting…
I think that's probably what we should assume…
I just personally don't see it…I'm probably wrong…
4stringAg said:
The only part that confuses me are the stills in the stairwell because in those it's hard to tell he's got a weapon down his pants
The Shank Ag said:OldArmy71 said:
In the TMZ video of after the shooting, the man is running full out at the end of the video.
While I fully believe the limping video is pre-shooting, adrenaline of having to escape from murdering someone in cold blood can make up for a limp. There were plenty of times in my youth I had injuries (including an fractured ankle) and would limp from classroom to classroom but once the ball was tipped would be running near full speed and nobody would have known the wiser. Later that night or the next morning it would be obvious, but when a situation calls for it the human body can do remarkable things in the face of pain.
All that to say, he/she/it may be limping after that drop right now, but they scampered away very quickly in the other video.
mickeyrig06sq3 said:GAC06 said:
Did he have a rifle when he jumped off the roof?
Doesn't look like it. Not under his clothes based on how he landed, and it doesn't look like there's anything large enough in his hands.
Edit: Grainy video can sometimes not pick up thin/small items. Especially if they are a pixel refresh configuration rather than a full image stream (that went really nerdy, sorry)
infinity ag said:AnScAggie said:
Unfortunately this press conference doesn't give me a lot of confidence.
I didn't like the woman giggling when she misnamed someone.
Be professional, damn it. This isn't a party, it's a serious sad situation and she is on national TV.
Fenrir said:4stringAg said:
The only part that confuses me are the stills in the stairwell because in those it's hard to tell he's got a weapon down his pants
Just thought...maybe tossed onto the roof before accessing building?
htxag09 said:Fenrir said:4stringAg said:
The only part that confuses me are the stills in the stairwell because in those it's hard to tell he's got a weapon down his pants
Just thought...maybe tossed onto the roof before accessing building?
I mean obviously possible to do. But don't think it'd be likely. Unless they had a way to do it carefully.
Don't see how throwing a rifle up on a roof wouldn't cause it to lose zero.
Fenrir said:4stringAg said:
The only part that confuses me are the stills in the stairwell because in those it's hard to tell he's got a weapon down his pants
Just thought...maybe tossed onto the roof before accessing building?
Texas 8&4 said:
I like this idea...1M dollars dead or alive, increasing by increments of 100,000 daily.
Timberwolf said:
Feels to me like he is getting assistance . Find it hard to believe he's hiding out near the campus still. He'd have been found by now imo
The Shank Ag said:Timberwolf said:
Feels to me like he is getting assistance . Find it hard to believe he's hiding out near the campus still. He'd have been found by now imo
God forbid us to think like this, but if any of us had done this, we'd be probably be several states away. Probably somewhere in the upper northwest or east coast. They probably had access to a vehicle and got to that vehicle on foot and were gone. Hopefully if they know a name, plate recognition software of them and known associates is zeroing in on where they may have headed.
htxag09 said:Fenrir said:4stringAg said:
The only part that confuses me are the stills in the stairwell because in those it's hard to tell he's got a weapon down his pants
Just thought...maybe tossed onto the roof before accessing building?
I mean obviously possible to do. But don't think it'd be likely. Unless they had a way to do it carefully.
Don't see how throwing a rifle up on a roof wouldn't cause it to lose zero.
htxag09 said:Fenrir said:4stringAg said:
The only part that confuses me are the stills in the stairwell because in those it's hard to tell he's got a weapon down his pants
Just thought...maybe tossed onto the roof before accessing building?
I mean obviously possible to do. But don't think it'd be likely. Unless they had a way to do it carefully.
Don't see how throwing a rifle up on a roof wouldn't cause it to lose zero.
bonfarr said:The Shank Ag said:Timberwolf said:
Feels to me like he is getting assistance . Find it hard to believe he's hiding out near the campus still. He'd have been found by now imo
God forbid us to think like this, but if any of us had done this, we'd be probably be several states away. Probably somewhere in the upper northwest or east coast. They probably had access to a vehicle and got to that vehicle on foot and were gone. Hopefully if they know a name, plate recognition software of them and known associates is zeroing in on where they may have headed.
Kohberger did that and didn't escape justice.
AnScAggie said:aginlakeway said:AnScAggie said:
Unfortunately this press conference doesn't give me a lot of confidence.
A lot of confidence in what?
The amount of times they requested for anyone with any information to call into their tip line, left me with not a lot of confidence they are very close to solving this. The information that was presented in the press conference that was delayed for 5 hours because of "breaking developments" was posted on TexAgs and X this afternoon. I am not being critical of Kash, the FBI, or local and state law enforcement, I was simply stating my feeling that I do not have a lot of confidence that this investigation is close at all to identifying the suspect and it will likely have to be someone who knows him that turns him in.
johnnyblaze36 said:Texas 8&4 said:
I like this idea...1M dollars dead or alive, increasing by increments of 100,000 daily.
If we can afford to send Ukraine 200 billion or whatever we can definitely afford a lot more than a 100K reward to locate this ******* that assassinated a real American hero.
Texas 8&4 said:
This is why I mentioned seeing videos of him getting on the roof. The stills aren't helpful.
4stringAg said:htxag09 said:Fenrir said:4stringAg said:
The only part that confuses me are the stills in the stairwell because in those it's hard to tell he's got a weapon down his pants
Just thought...maybe tossed onto the roof before accessing building?
I mean obviously possible to do. But don't think it'd be likely. Unless they had a way to do it carefully.
Don't see how throwing a rifle up on a roof wouldn't cause it to lose zero.
Installed the scope on after he was on the roof maybe. They found a screwdriver or some tools up there too I heard
4stringAg said:htxag09 said:Fenrir said:4stringAg said:
The only part that confuses me are the stills in the stairwell because in those it's hard to tell he's got a weapon down his pants
Just thought...maybe tossed onto the roof before accessing building?
I mean obviously possible to do. But don't think it'd be likely. Unless they had a way to do it carefully.
Don't see how throwing a rifle up on a roof wouldn't cause it to lose zero.
Installed the scope on after he was on the roof maybe. They found a screwdriver or some tools up there too I heard
Haleyscomet50 said:
Don't have alot of confidence in local and even state pd. Also the fbi a unknown at this point surprised they didn't jump in and run things don't know if that's good or bad. That always happens with big cases this one seems strange.
htxag09 said:4stringAg said:htxag09 said:Fenrir said:4stringAg said:
The only part that confuses me are the stills in the stairwell because in those it's hard to tell he's got a weapon down his pants
Just thought...maybe tossed onto the roof before accessing building?
I mean obviously possible to do. But don't think it'd be likely. Unless they had a way to do it carefully.
Don't see how throwing a rifle up on a roof wouldn't cause it to lose zero.
Installed the scope on after he was on the roof maybe. They found a screwdriver or some tools up there too I heard
I've never planned anything like this so don't know if there are other ways to make sure it's sighted in. But I've never installed a scope, went to the range, and it be remotely close to sighted in.
LeftyAg89 said:
I think he had the rifle in his hand as he jumped. Looks like maybe a jacket wrapped around it when he jumped down.
GAC06 said:
A couple double mic clicks after too, which is basically "Roger" or "affirmative" from other pilots on frequency
htxag09 said:4stringAg said:htxag09 said:Fenrir said:4stringAg said:
The only part that confuses me are the stills in the stairwell because in those it's hard to tell he's got a weapon down his pants
Just thought...maybe tossed onto the roof before accessing building?
I mean obviously possible to do. But don't think it'd be likely. Unless they had a way to do it carefully.
Don't see how throwing a rifle up on a roof wouldn't cause it to lose zero.
Installed the scope on after he was on the roof maybe. They found a screwdriver or some tools up there too I heard
I've never planned anything like this so don't know if there are other ways to make sure it's sighted in. But I've never installed a scope, went to the range, and it be remotely close to sighted in.
revvie said:
I have watched the video from the joint briefing(multiple times and in slow motion) and have a hard time believing the guy had a rifle down his pants when jumped off the building. He may have been involved in some way, but the way he ran across roof, took backpack off, bent legs while preparing to drop, bending legs when he hits ground, and then running away. I have not seen pics of recovered weapon, but is easily broken down into components.
bonfarr said:The Shank Ag said:Timberwolf said:
Feels to me like he is getting assistance . Find it hard to believe he's hiding out near the campus still. He'd have been found by now imo
God forbid us to think like this, but if any of us had done this, we'd be probably be several states away. Probably somewhere in the upper northwest or east coast. They probably had access to a vehicle and got to that vehicle on foot and were gone. Hopefully if they know a name, plate recognition software of them and known associates is zeroing in on where they may have headed.
Kohberger did that and didn't escape justice.
cr06gis said:htxag09 said:4stringAg said:htxag09 said:Fenrir said:4stringAg said:
The only part that confuses me are the stills in the stairwell because in those it's hard to tell he's got a weapon down his pants
Just thought...maybe tossed onto the roof before accessing building?
I mean obviously possible to do. But don't think it'd be likely. Unless they had a way to do it carefully.
Don't see how throwing a rifle up on a roof wouldn't cause it to lose zero.
Installed the scope on after he was on the roof maybe. They found a screwdriver or some tools up there too I heard
I've never planned anything like this so don't know if there are other ways to make sure it's sighted in. But I've never installed a scope, went to the range, and it be remotely close to sighted in.
Exactly. Scope wouldn't be close to zeroed. Don't see how this is a possibility
