Charlie Kirk Assassination Man Hunt Updates & Speculation[Staff Edit]

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FireAg said:

I know why the trans boyfriend flipped so quickly…he wanted no part of being implicated as having been a party to the murder…


I mean in text messages Tyler instructed him to lawyer up and not talk.

Im not sure that he is innocent like portrayed.

Everybody knows that texts dont just disappear because you delete them.

He knew of carved bullet casings.

The text message discussion, which hopefully we will have word for word, seems a bit off and staged IMO
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FireAg said:

I know why the trans boyfriend flipped so quickly…he wanted no part of being implicated as having been a party to the murder…


But did he flip quickly? Still foggy on the timeline.

If he didn't instantly rat him out when he knew then he at least has to receive some charges
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So he won't enter a plea today, but will do so at the arraignment…

What are the chances he just pleads guilty?
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Q&A at end of conference. Can't hear most questions.

They will not comment on additional suspects but they are continuing to follow leads
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TAMUallen said:

FireAg said:

I know why the trans boyfriend flipped so quickly…he wanted no part of being implicated as having been a party to the murder…


But did he flip quickly? Still foggy on the timeline.

If he didn't instantly rat him out when he knew then he at least has to receive some charges

I hear you…my guess is that he will granted a great deal of grace for cooperating so quickly…unless they can find things related to him specifically that proves he knew what his boyfriend was going to do before he did it…
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Federal charges might be coming but Utah isn't knowledgeable on it.

He will not comment on roommate and if roommate is cooperating
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Won't comment on roommate and charges are up to a judge

He will not comment on any online activities.

Boys, there's more to this. He is pulling a legal "I can't say anything but there's stuff I can't talk about"
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This is part of the probable cause document so we will get everything in writing as he read it.

Cutting off the press conference. Press is hitting with too many good questions that could compromise an active investigation IMHO
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Robinson is toast.
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Say anything about how he got the gun on the roof?
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htxag09 said:

Say anything about how he got the gun on the roof?


Said it was in his pants the whole time until after the shooting
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htxag09 said:

Say anything about how he got the gun on the roof?


Hidden in his pants.
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FireAg said:

I know why the trans boyfriend flipped so quickly…he wanted no part of being implicated as having been a party to the murder…

Probably under advice that complete cooperation would lead to missing a death penalty charge in UT. Maybe.
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aginlakeway said:

htxag09 said:

Say anything about how he got the gun on the roof?


Hidden in his pants.

Based on the pics the fbi released, he did a damn good job hiding it
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Where are our friendly drive by libs who wanted to pose Robinson as a Trump supporter???

This was a leftist trans assassination because they hated Charlie for who he was and what he said that didn't favor them. Charlie had no hate. He had well formed opinions with logic and reasoning. The left and their trans community made this happen
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TAMUallen said:

Where are our friendly drive by libs who wanted to pose Robinson as a Trump supporter???

This was a leftist trans assassination because they hated Charlie for who he was and what he said that didn't favor them. Charlie had no hate. He had well formed opinions with logic and reasoning. The left and their trans community made this happen


100%.
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the left is still celebrating their big win last week. absolutely sick.
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Don't think this part has been posted yet. 7 charges.

1. Agg murder
2. Felony discharge of firearm
3. Obs of Justice
4. Obs of Justice
5. Witness tampering
6. Witness tampering
7. Misdemeanor discharge of firearm

Death penalty being sought due to agg factor of others being in danger, presence of children.
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FireAg said:

I know why the trans boyfriend flipped so quickly…he wanted no part of being implicated as having been a party to the murder…


I think he wanted to keep getting his trans treatments. Not going to do that in jail. I don't think he'll be able to avoid jail time.
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aginlakeway said:

Robinson is toast.


Shame it will drag on for years. Hope the jury does the right thing.
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Rockdoc said:

aginlakeway said:

Robinson is toast.


Shame it will drag on for years. Hope the jury does the right thing.

I'm honestly not convinced he will not plead guilty…

My guess is his attorney will approach the DA with a plea of guilty in exchange for life without parole…
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LMCane said:

This Ermiya dude seems very sus to me. Seems to be a lot of connections between his/her group in Utah and several other murders.



So a dude cosplaying as a woman who probably here illegally.

That thing just needs to be deported back where it came from.
Can't decide if I want to be cute & cuddly, or go blow some sh*t up.
Decisions decisions.
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TAMU1990 said:

FireAg said:

I know why the trans boyfriend flipped so quickly…he wanted no part of being implicated as having been a party to the murder…


I think he wanted to keep getting his trans treatments. Not going to do that in jail. I don't think he'll be able to avoid jail time.


Judging by the comments after the presser statement, they wouldnt say much but definitely didnt say he was free of charges. That'll be up to the judge
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FireAg said:

Rockdoc said:

aginlakeway said:

Robinson is toast.


Shame it will drag on for years. Hope the jury does the right thing.

I'm honestly not convinced he will not plead guilty…

My guess is his attorney will approach the DA with a plea of guilty in exchange for life without parole…

You can't plead guilty to the death penalty.
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Rockdoc said:

aginlakeway said:

Robinson is toast.


Shame it will drag on for years. Hope the jury does the right thing.

Two or three years, maybe more if he gets a DP certified public defender team..
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TAMU1990 said:

FireAg said:

I know why the trans boyfriend flipped so quickly…he wanted no part of being implicated as having been a party to the murder…


I think he wanted to keep getting his trans treatments. Not going to do that in jail.


Are we absolutely certain of that? Utah has one of the most pro-trans governors in the country.
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aggiehawg said:

Rockdoc said:

aginlakeway said:

Robinson is toast.


Shame it will drag on for years. Hope the jury does the right thing.

Two or three years, maybe more if he gets a DP certified public defender team..


Can the state keep him alive that long? I would think he wants to commit suicide.
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aginlakeway said:

aggiehawg said:

Rockdoc said:

aginlakeway said:

Robinson is toast.


Shame it will drag on for years. Hope the jury does the right thing.

Two or three years, maybe more if he gets a DP certified public defender team..


Can the state keep him alive that long? I would think he wants to commit suicide.

They can try. Find it ironic that someone facing the death penalty would be put on suicide watch, though.
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FireAg said:

Rockdoc said:

aginlakeway said:

Robinson is toast.


Shame it will drag on for years. Hope the jury does the right thing.

I'm honestly not convinced he will not plead guilty…

My guess is his attorney will approach the DA with a plea of guilty in exchange for life without parole…


No way a DA offers any deal in this case. Complete slam dunk.
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aggiehawg said:

aginlakeway said:

aggiehawg said:

Rockdoc said:

aginlakeway said:

Robinson is toast.


Shame it will drag on for years. Hope the jury does the right thing.

Two or three years, maybe more if he gets a DP certified public defender team..


Can the state keep him alive that long? I would think he wants to commit suicide.

They can try. Find it ironic that someone facing the death penalty would be put on suicide watch, though.


No chance he gets bail, right?! They can't release this freak... I mean his chance of getting killed is equal to his suicide risk (which has already been noted by self admission to multiple people)

Or are we just saying hes going to off himself?
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Question here. If the Feds decide to pursue charges, do those charges supersede the state charges? How would this effect the death penalty? My understanding is that Trump reinstated the death penalty(?), but my concern is they do away with it later and he doesn't get executed at all. I know that is a lot of rambling, but hopefully you guys understand what I am getting at.
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TAMUallen said:

aggiehawg said:

aginlakeway said:

aggiehawg said:

Rockdoc said:

aginlakeway said:

Robinson is toast.


Shame it will drag on for years. Hope the jury does the right thing.

Two or three years, maybe more if he gets a DP certified public defender team..


Can the state keep him alive that long? I would think he wants to commit suicide.

They can try. Find it ironic that someone facing the death penalty would be put on suicide watch, though.


No chance he gets bail, right?! They can't release this freak... I mean his chance of getting killed is equal to his suicide risk (which has already been noted by self admission to multiple people)

Or are we just saying hes going to off himself?

No way they're going to give bail to someone charged with capital murder.
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Seriously doubt he gets bail.
ErnestEndeavor
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The aggravated murder charge does not allow for bail in Utah. By law he's going to be held.
 
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