Charlie Kirk Assassination Man Hunt Updates & Speculation[Staff Edit]

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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aggiehawg said:

I'm confused. Does anyone know for sure there was or was not an autopsy?


Ma'am here's the local news report from outside the State Medical Examiner's office. Im almost 100% that so called dispatch audio is fabricated nonsense to stir up conspiracies




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Thank you, kind sir.
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Medical examiner data in Utah takes about 6 weeks. You want get any official data until at least then; and then they aren't obligated to disclose. This has been reported about 50 times on here.
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Quote:

Project Artichoke (also referred to as Operation Artichoke) was a project developed and enacted by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) for the purpose of researching methods of interrogation. Project Artichoke was succeeded by Project MKUltra, which began in 1953.[1]

Initially known as Project Bluebird, Project Artichoke officially arose on August 20, 1951, and was operated by the CIA's Office of Scientific Intelligence.[2] The primary goal of Project Artichoke was to determine whether a person could be involuntarily made to perform an act of attempted assassination.[3] The project also studied the effects of mind control and hypnosis, forced addiction to (and subsequent withdrawal from) morphine, and other chemicals, including LSD, to produce amnesia and other vulnerable states in victims.


I found this. I wonder if the kid who had his brains washed off a "steeply sloped roof" in Butler, PA last year before the sun went down and was cremated immediately was ever tested for drugs.
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aggiehawg said:

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there is discussion about the capture rate and bullet speed in the video. seems quite possible actually

Uhm, no. Not possible. Not how physics work.

or optics.

a bullet traveling at 2,500 feet per second will move ~42-feet in the 1/60th of a second. Or across the field of view of the HD 60 frames per second video faster than it could capture the object (the bullet) in motion. Anything larger than that 42 foot field of view (as in you're far away) will not have enough pixels to capture the bullet.

Remember, we have someone posting on this site with an engineering degree from TAMU that thinks the WTC towers were blown up from the inside, not brought down by the airplanes and raging fires that occurred after the plane hit the towers.
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Make of it what you wish


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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

Make of it what you wish




Maybe I should, but I don't know who this Stephen Gardner person is. Just not familiar with him. However, he did just post this video. Assuming he actually has information, he talks about Charlies neck being destroyed, no exit wound, different types of 30-06 rounds and possibility of a different bullet entirely.

I don't care really for Alex Jones, but I think he started around the 10 minute mark so the earlier part of the video is the main stuff about the shooting itelf.

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Stephen Gardner is just another blogger, he's in the group with Jack Prosobiec and Benny Johnson, so he knows people in the MAGA loop and has decent stuff usually. Alex Jones is what he is, I take anything he says with a boulder of salt.

If Garner's info is correct on the autopsy findings that hopefully puts all the nonsense to rest when the official report comes out
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

Stephen Gardner is just another blogger, he's in the group with Jack Prosobiec and Benny Johnson, so he knows people in the MAGA loop and has decent stuff usually. Alex Jones is what he is, I take anything he says with a boulder of salt.

If Garner's info is correct on the autopsy findings that hopefully puts all the nonsense to rest when the official report comes out

The question of whether the bullet was a 30-06 or not wasn't disclosed/known and it was in multiple fragments. If that ends up not being a 30-06 though, that would definitely make things significantly more interesting. Autopsy was 100% performed though. Guess there's speculation there wasn't one done based on some audio I haven't heard.
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Touchless said:

Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

Stephen Gardner is just another blogger, he's in the group with Jack Prosobiec and Benny Johnson, so he knows people in the MAGA loop and has decent stuff usually. Alex Jones is what he is, I take anything he says with a boulder of salt.

If Garner's info is correct on the autopsy findings that hopefully puts all the nonsense to rest when the official report comes out

The question of whether the bullet was a 30-06 or not wasn't disclosed/known and it was in multiple fragments. If that ends up not being a 30-06 though, that would definitely make things significantly more interesting. Autopsy was 100% performed though. Guess there's speculation there wasn't one done based on some audio I haven't heard.



If the bullet fragmented it will take a metallurgic match to certify the ballistics
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Still no answers only more and more questions. The guys attending to Kirk on the ground? Where is the blood on them? Where is the blood on the ground? Is it visible?

I'm usually very skeptical about Candace these days but maybe she is raising correct questions? Did the Dad turn Tyler in or not? Did Tyler shoot him?

Interesting video.

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I'm in the Bibi killed him camp. The mic exploding just makes the most sense.
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It was obviously Jewish space lasers shot from airplane contrails.

You guys really need to keep up.
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Lots of people like this Paramount Tactical guy, which he's been all over the place with body armor so take it as you wish


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So are these texts that Candace Owens is sharing legit? I honestly barely trust anything anymore.

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Wouldn't believe anything she puts out, especially when she is doing so in order to blame the Jews for killing CK.

Owens lies on a regular basis so faking some texts is not beyond her.

And don't forget, there are other people who worked directly with CK that have said all of her claims are bunk.
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Lol at taking anything that grifting pos says seriously.

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Yeah I call BULL*****
Gig em G
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Wasn't Candace close friends with Charlie Kirk? What a f****ed world we live in if this is all fabricated. And if that's the case, I'd like to know who she actually works for
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Gig em G said:

Wasn't Candace close friends with Charlie Kirk? What a f****ed world we live in if this is all fabricated. And if that's the case, I'd like to know who she actually works for

At one time, but that was a long time ago, before she went off the rails.
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What happened to Charlie's burial? I did not see any news about it.
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Those texts read exactly how Candace would want them to read. They are way too on the nose. Does anybody really think Charlie Kirk would say "just lost another huge Jewish donor."

Also why would he have no choice but to leave the Pro-Israel cause just because Jewish donors were trying to strong arm him? He would have to change his entire worldview and he doesn't seem like a guy who would change his principles because a couple donors put some pressure on him. Pressure comes with their money; it's to be expected.
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infinity ag said:

What happened to Charlie's burial? I did not see any news about it.

Likely a private burial with just family and very close friends.
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Candace has really disgusted me with this and the other nutty things she's gone on about.
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shack009 said:

Those texts read exactly how Candace would want them to read. They are way too on the nose. Does anybody really think Charlie Kirk would say "just lost another huge Jewish donor."

Also why would he have no choice but to leave the Pro-Israel cause just because Jewish donors were trying to strong arm him? He would have to change his entire worldview and he doesn't seem like a guy who would change his principles because a couple donors put some pressure on him. Pressure comes with their money; it's to be expected.

He is certainly not going to abandon a whole group of people or a country because of a single disgruntled person.
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Gig em G said:

Wasn't Candace close friends with Charlie Kirk? What a f****ed world we live in if this is all fabricated. And if that's the case, I'd like to know who she actually works for

This. She has 4 small children, including an infant, and is married to a dude worth like $250MM. Why even be involved in crap like this, to this level?

I think it is growing increasingly clear that this woman is not at all well mentally. Extreme narcissistic personality disorder at a very minimum. But I suspect a combination of mental illnesses. I hope she gets the help she needs and is able to start focusing on being a good and present mother for her kiddos. It would kind of make sense for a narisssistic person to have some sort of "break" after having children and realizing just how selfless you need to be in order to be a good parent. It should be ALL about them. Which has got to be tough for the self-obsessed and self-worshiping person to grapple with.

So glad I had a good mother who wasn't constantly out trying to stir up controversy and get as much attention as she could.

PS - Even if those leaked texts are accurate...my points still stand. She keeps finding ways to make his death about her. Totally uncalled for to leak texts like this after someone dies...legit or not.
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Wow...I didn't follow either much so I honestly thought she and Charlie were very close by how she's been talking lately.

So what's her next play then? People will want to know where this came from, and if it's all just fabricated what would the response be? "Nevermind...the 'souce' that provided that exchange to me wasn't as reliable as I figured. Sorry." Then completely absolve herself from it all? Ugh
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Gig em G said:

Wow...I didn't follow either much so I honestly thought she and Charlie were very close by how she's been talking lately.

So what's her next play then? People will want to know where this came from, and if it's all just fabricated what would the response be? "Nevermind...the 'souce' that provided that exchange to me wasn't as reliable as I figured. Sorry." Then completely absolve herself from it all? Ugh

She'd blame the Jews and move to her next fantasy.
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Come on haters. Better get some new talking points


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I'm open to entertaining some conspiracy theories, but it still has to make sense...

How does Charlie Kirk wanting to "leave the pro-Israel cause" equate to "Israel did it?" I'm skeptical of the official narrative but so far that's weak.
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Gig em G said:

I'm open to entertaining some conspiracy theories, but it still has to make sense...

How does Charlie Kirk wanting to "leave the pro-Israel cause" equate to "Israel did it?" I'm skeptical of the official narrative but so far that's weak.

It doesn't and Owens is STILL BSC.
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Spotted Ag said:

Gig em G said:

I'm open to entertaining some conspiracy theories, but it still has to make sense...

How does Charlie Kirk wanting to "leave the pro-Israel cause" equate to "Israel did it?" I'm skeptical of the official narrative but so far that's weak.

It doesn't and Owens is STILL BSC.

Of what benefit would it serve Israel to create a possibly major destabilizing event in the United States when Israel is dependent on the United States ?

Not everything is 'the Jews!' fault.

If there was actual PROVEN Israeli Mossad stuff in this - it would unravel Conservative support for Israel immediately.
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I haven't seen where Candace said that.

It probably wouldn't have been a big deal if the pro israeli nut jobs wouldn't have went nuclear and denied there was a meeting with Israeli billionaires before the murder. Just about everything went down, like she said.

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shack009 said:

Those texts read exactly how Candace would want them to read. They are way too on the nose. Does anybody really think Charlie Kirk would say "just lost another huge Jewish donor."

Also why would he have no choice but to leave the Pro-Israel cause just because Jewish donors were trying to strong arm him? He would have to change his entire worldview and he doesn't seem like a guy who would change his principles because a couple donors put some pressure on him. Pressure comes with their money; it's to be expected.


I lined out what went down this summer in this thread. It was interesting to watch it all go down.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3564275

The neoconservative wing was really upset with him platforming more voices from the libertarian and populist wing at his TPUSA events over the summer.

I don't remember him ever being hawkish on foreign policy, and it seemed his economic and domestic policy views had shifted more than his foreign policy views.

There's a reason he didn't go on Fox News for 3 years after Tucker was fired and Fox had banned their anchors from TPUSA events during that time. It all blew over in the lead up to the 2024 election and Charlie was extremely gracious in his handling of that situation.

There's also a reason his election night stream consisted of him, Andrew, Blake Neff, Jack Posobiec, and Cliff Maloney. Blake was the Tucker producer that Fox fired and Charlie hired immediately. Cliff was the former president of Young Americans for Liberty he had running point on his ground game in Pennsylvania.
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He wasn't openly hawkish but he was openly pro Israel, and that has hawkish implications. He had no problem with regime change in Iran because his friend Israel has wanted it.

It was just a few months ago that he wrote a love letter to Bibi decrying the American youth for becoming hostile towards Israel. He was trying to figure out a PR campaign to get people back on Israel's side with their head of state. He was as openly pro Israel as you could get. That's why it would make no sense for Israel to want him dead.
 
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