Charlie Kirk Assassination Man Hunt Updates & Speculation[Staff Edit]

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The Fall Guy said:

Charpie said:

FireAg said:

Sure sounds like the FBI knows who the suspect is…

That is if you believe that this screenshot is valid.


Yep this day and age its easy for it to be fake until proven true or not.

Folks…I don't give two ****s about some unverified screenshot…

I just watched the FBI presser that just concluded 5 min ago in Utah…

They have video, the weapon, and facial recognition technology…
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Wow. I watched it and I took away that they have idea who it was. But, to each their own. Probably doesn't belong in this thread anyway.
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Likely a


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joerobert_pete06 said:

Can't they use satellites to track the shooters movement?

No. Sats with that kind of capability are uncommon and lower orbits, can only track a small area at a time.
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Video of briefing for those who missed it;
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FireAg said:

The Fall Guy said:

Charpie said:

FireAg said:

Sure sounds like the FBI knows who the suspect is…

That is if you believe that this screenshot is valid.


Yep this day and age its easy for it to be fake until proven true or not.

Folks…I don't give two ****s about some unverified screenshot…

I just watched the FBI presser that just concluded 5 min ago in Utah…

They have video, the weapon, and facial recognition technology…


They appear to have trace DNA and they're geo fencing cell phones that were in that area too.
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Quote:

jumped off the rooftop, and fled into the neighborhood.

Do what now? Was it a different building? I thought that building was rather tall.
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ProgN said:

FireAg said:

The Fall Guy said:

Charpie said:

FireAg said:

Sure sounds like the FBI knows who the suspect is…

That is if you believe that this screenshot is valid.


Yep this day and age its easy for it to be fake until proven true or not.

Folks…I don't give two ****s about some unverified screenshot…

I just watched the FBI presser that just concluded 5 min ago in Utah…

They have video, the weapon, and facial recognition technology…


They appear to have trace DNA and they're geo fencing cell phones that were in that area too.


Also have foot, hand, and forearm imprints from the scene.

Heard from FBI during that press conference.
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I think it's tall on the side facing where Charlie was speaking, which is essentially structured/built as a sort of amphitheater. On the opposite side I doubt it was more than a single story. Not really sure though. Clearly, they have all of that on tape, however.
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I mean single story is still a hell of a fall unless there was something to climb down on. Just wondering if that was more of a turn of phrase than accurate description I suppose.
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ProgN said:

FireAg said:

The Fall Guy said:

Charpie said:

FireAg said:

Sure sounds like the FBI knows who the suspect is…

That is if you believe that this screenshot is valid.


Yep this day and age its easy for it to be fake until proven true or not.

Folks…I don't give two ****s about some unverified screenshot…

I just watched the FBI presser that just concluded 5 min ago in Utah…

They have video, the weapon, and facial recognition technology…


They appear to have trace DNA and they're geo fencing cell phones that were in that area too.

Correct…they basically said they have a good fix on the dude's face, described him as being likely of college age, said they do not think he was on a rampage targeting random folks so the community isn't in danger, they have his gun, they alluded to having evidence on the weapon left by the shooter, and they clearly stated that the video they have of his face is pretty clear, and they are confident that they have the technology to figure out who it is…and if they don't, they'll release what they have to the media for assistance…

Reading between the lines leads me to believe they have already used the technology, they have a good idea about who they are looking for, and they are not going to tip their hand publicly about being further along in the investigation than they want the suspect to know…

Words were chosen very carefully…
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nortex97 said:

I think it's tall on the side facing where Charlie was speaking, which is essentially structured/built as a sort of amphitheater. On the opposite side I doubt it was more than a single story. Not really sure though. Clearly, they have all of that on tape, however.

FBI SAIC said during presser that they have video from the stairwell.
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ProgN said:

FireAg said:

The Fall Guy said:

Charpie said:

FireAg said:

Sure sounds like the FBI knows who the suspect is…

That is if you believe that this screenshot is valid.


Yep this day and age its easy for it to be fake until proven true or not.

Folks…I don't give two ****s about some unverified screenshot…

I just watched the FBI presser that just concluded 5 min ago in Utah…

They have video, the weapon, and facial recognition technology…


They appear to have trace DNA and they're geo fencing cell phones that were in that area too.


I hadn't heard about the DNA. If the shooter has any relatives that signed up for ancestry.com he's toast…hopefully
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bonfarr said:

94DCAg said:

I hope they get the perp.

Hadn't Kirk had recently supported full release of the Epstein files? He had a unique ability to influence MAGA. His death definitely has and will focus attention on his assassination, away from the Epstein firestorm. Related? At this stage, given the shooters ability to avoid authorities, we can assume the shooter is more adept than the mentally unstable, ideology soaked, suicidal perp.


Why does everyone state the fact the murderer hasn't been apprehended less than 24 hours after the shooting means they are some kind of professional hitman expert? Unhinged leftist looney takes a shot at Charlie then runs away into a car and drives off and hides in a friends closet. Cops don't have a name yet so haven't tracked down known friends and associates. It could be as simple as that.

Because people have a tendency not to believe these things are possible for the average determined person - just like why everyone calls professionals to fix easy crap around the house.

But in reality, most of this stuff is fairly easy with a little prep and research - including shooting a rifle at someone from 200yds.
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Gig em G said:

ProgN said:

FireAg said:

The Fall Guy said:

Charpie said:

FireAg said:

Sure sounds like the FBI knows who the suspect is…

That is if you believe that this screenshot is valid.


Yep this day and age its easy for it to be fake until proven true or not.

Folks…I don't give two ****s about some unverified screenshot…

I just watched the FBI presser that just concluded 5 min ago in Utah…

They have video, the weapon, and facial recognition technology…


They appear to have trace DNA and they're geo fencing cell phones that were in that area too.


I hadn't heard about the DNA. If the shooter has any relatives that signed up for ancestry.com he's toast…hopefully
They don't know if they have DNA. You don't know if you have DNA until you do all the screening and work to get a profile. That takes time.

They're hoping they have DNA.
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[Start your own thread. -Staff]
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Who?mikejones! said:

Shooter was "of college age" and blended in well with a college setting.

It was a student, my guess

They know who it is. If they didn't they would put the picture out to the public to id him in like 5 minutes.
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nortex97 said:

Video of briefing for those who missed it;



The number of EHS ISO and external compliance audits i do where business both public and private have accesses to rooftops is just mind boggling.
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Omperlodge said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Shooter was "of college age" and blended in well with a college setting.

It was a student, my guess

They know who it is. If they didn't they would put the picture out to the public to id him in like 5 minutes.


If they have the gun, they know who it is registered to. Combined with the video evidence, I'm sure it's just a matter of determining where he might have gone.
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The walls are closing in on this guy.
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DargelSkout said:

The walls are closing in on this guy.

He better be found alive
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Get him alive.
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Gator92 said:

nortex97 said:

I think it's tall on the side facing where Charlie was speaking, which is essentially structured/built as a sort of amphitheater. On the opposite side I doubt it was more than a single story. Not really sure though. Clearly, they have all of that on tape, however.

FBI SAIC said during presser that they have video from the stairwell.

Yes, they said he gained access to the roof via a door in the stairwell (very likely gained the best video of his face, if uncovered), and jumped from it after the shot. I'm not guessing at that, that is what the FBI briefing just stated.


I don't actually have a clue what tier he was actually on, but it would be a single story 'leap' to the ground behind, from what I can see.
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24 hour rule.



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FireAg said:

ProgN said:

FireAg said:

The Fall Guy said:

Charpie said:

FireAg said:

Sure sounds like the FBI knows who the suspect is…

That is if you believe that this screenshot is valid.


Yep this day and age its easy for it to be fake until proven true or not.

Folks…I don't give two ****s about some unverified screenshot…

I just watched the FBI presser that just concluded 5 min ago in Utah…

They have video, the weapon, and facial recognition technology…


They appear to have trace DNA and they're geo fencing cell phones that were in that area too.

Correct…they basically said they have a good fix on the dude's face, described him as being likely of college age, said they do not think he was on a rampage targeting random folks so the community isn't in danger, they have his gun, they alluded to having evidence on the weapon left by the shooter, and they clearly stated that the video they have of his face is pretty clear, and they are confident that they have the technology to figure out who it is…and if they don't, they'll release what they have to the media for assistance…

Reading between the lines leads me to believe they have already used the technology, they have a good idea about who they are looking for, and they are not going to tip their hand publicly about being further along in the investigation than they want the suspect to know…

Words were chosen very carefully…


I also suspect that they don't want to release the shooter's identity for fear of vigilante justice.
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[This thread is for updates and not speculation and we have given enough public edits about derails. There are plenty of other threads that have speculation and theories and we are going to start banning people for derails on this thread. There is the warning. -Staff]
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Pumpkinhead said:

I know conspiracy theories are going to be rampant in something like this, but odds are this guy is going to be basically of the same ilk as the guy in Butler, the guy who shot the Healthcare CEO in New York, the Boston Marathon bombers, etc.

Young male in his twenties or maybe early thirties. Has a cause/manifesto or looking for infamy, etc.


He simply happened to be a better shot then the Butler guy, shot once and fled, and the security at that campus event was minuscule compared to Trump's event. There were no counter snipers on other roofs immediately triangulating in on him. So easier to get away.

But they are going to get him. Just too many resources in a case like this. when local, state, and Federal plus the whole national public are hunting you like the Boston Marathon bombers or that guy who shot the healthcare CEO in New York, they are going to get him.


The Butler kid was a ghost. We know next to nothing about him, so I don't think he's the same as those others.
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nortex97 said:

Gator92 said:

nortex97 said:

I think it's tall on the side facing where Charlie was speaking, which is essentially structured/built as a sort of amphitheater. On the opposite side I doubt it was more than a single story. Not really sure though. Clearly, they have all of that on tape, however.

FBI SAIC said during presser that they have video from the stairwell.

Yes, they said he gained access to the roof via a door in the stairwell (very likely gained the best video of his face, if uncovered), and jumped from it after the shot. I'm not guessing at that, that is what the FBI briefing just stated.


I don't actually have a clue what tier he was actually on, but it would be a single story 'leap' to the ground behind, from what I can see.

Yeah, definitely a 1 story drop...but I can tell you that even in my youth I wouldn't have wanted to do a 15+ foot drop. It's doable but it's still risky and gonna sting.
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sanangelo said:

24 hour rule.





WSJ confirming this now.
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WSJ at 9:20 a.m. backs up Crowder's post about transgender inscriptions on something...

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Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved with Transgender, Antifascist Ideology: Sources

By Sadie Gurman and James Fanelli

Investigators found ammunition engraved with expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology inside the rifle that authorities believe was used in the fatal shooting of Charlie Kirk, according to an internal law enforcement bulletin and a person familiar with the investigation.

The older-model .30 caliber hunting rifle was discovered in the woods near the scene of Wednesday's shooting at Utah Valley University, wrapped in a towel with a spent cartridge still in the chamber, the sources said. There were also three unspent rounds in the magazine, all with wording on them.

Kirk, 31, was onstage going back and forth with a student about mass shootings involving transgender people when he was targeted, according to videos of the attack. The student has not been publicly identified.

Source: WSJ


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So a Liuigi wannabe?
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Yesterday on the original thread there was a pic link of a shooter silhouette on the roof.

It was much clearer image and appeared to be a gunman with a scoped rifle on a lead sled.

A lead sled is a device that holds a rifle very firmly in postion to make the most accurare shot possible while sighting in a rifle.

I can't find the image anymore. Did anyone else see it?

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I was listening a news report on the radio from the FBI this morning that they know who the shooter is and have tracked his movements yesterday and have some footage which they will not release right now and they are going door to door to get any CCTV footage if possible. They are on the job, we have to be patient.
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this dude is toast my guess he is going to self-delete before getting captured.
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LukeDuke said:

Yesterday on the original thread there was a pic link of a shooter silhouette on the roof.

It was much clearer image and appeared to be a gunman with a scoped rifle on a lead sled.

A lead sled is a device that holds a rifle very firmly in postion to make the most accurare shot possible while sighting in a rifle.

I can't find the image anymore. Did anyone else see it?



It was a stock photo. Not a photo of the shooter.
 
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