Charlie Kirk Assassination Man Hunt Updates & Speculation[Staff Edit]

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Aggie118 said:

htxag09 said:

For one the side by side is an AI photo. So the photo we're comparing it to may not even match the actual suspect. People are way too confident in AI



I wasn't aware of that. How do we know it's AI? This is why AI is a disaster.

For one the fbi has only released a few photos. None were this clear. Then look at the shirt and the hat. AI hallucinates with things like that a lot. The shirt turned from an eagle over a flag to a gun or some other object? The hat went from an adidas hat to all black?

Edit to add: these are two photos released by the fbi. Can easily see they took one and put it in AI asking it to "make it clearer."


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Ghost91 said:

Anybody else disappointed that neither Patel nor Bongino said anything at the presser? I'm very underwhelmed and really expected a lot more badassery from this regime. Even if it was just rhetoric. Not strong leadership.


Patel showed his inexperience with the announcement he made thinking the shooting suspect was in custody only to have to walk it back after. That makes you appear incompetent, trust but verify.

I bet he learned his lesson and isn't going to say jack chit on the matter until they are 100% sure they have the right guy in cuffs.
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stantheman01 said:

Any legitimacy from the 4chan post naming Skye Valadez as the person of interest?
Same person with the SoundCloud upload titled Charlie Kirk dead at 31?





has to be the guy
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Ghost91 said:

Anybody else disappointed that neither Patel nor Bongino said anything at the presser? I'm very underwhelmed and really expected a lot more badassery from this regime. Even if it was just rhetoric. Not strong leadership.


Not really that big of a deal. Now if this carries on for a week and neither is taking the lead then that's a bit concerning
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Not to derail but strong leadership doesn't have to say a word. Actually letting emotional rhetoric flow out and give away any of what you're thinking would be opposite of strong leadership. Strategic, composed, calculated, allowing those boots on the ground to have some opportunity….strong leadership.
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The Skye Valadez profile I saw posted earlier looks nothing like the shooter not bullhorn guy. Fear this may be AI…
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It's not proof but there is a **** ton of smoke around this POS
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25mil?

Anyone wanna head to Utah?
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Fenrir said:

It's not proof but there is a **** ton of smoke around this POS


I agree, not saying he is guilty of anything, but when you come off this angry and combative as he is in this video and something like this assassination happens, one can expect to be suspect number 1. What an idiot.
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Ghost91 said:

Anybody else disappointed that neither Patel nor Bongino said anything at the presser? I'm very underwhelmed and really expected a lot more badassery from this regime. Even if it was just rhetoric. Not strong leadership.


Both have been flops IMO

all talk, no badassery from either of them
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Who?mikejones! said:



25mil?

Anyone wanna head to Utah?



That's not an official ICE account. Good luck cashing in that $25 million bounty.
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this kid on fox news right now is a rockstar
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suburban cowboy said:

Ghost91 said:

Anybody else disappointed that neither Patel nor Bongino said anything at the presser? I'm very underwhelmed and really expected a lot more badassery from this regime. Even if it was just rhetoric. Not strong leadership.


Both have been flops IMO

all talk, no badassery from either of them

Agreed. Can you imagine Trump attending a presser and not speaking??
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suburban cowboy said:

stantheman01 said:

Any legitimacy from the 4chan post naming Skye Valadez as the person of interest?
Same person with the SoundCloud upload titled Charlie Kirk dead at 31?





has to be the guy


Similar ears and jawline.
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BlackLab said:

suburban cowboy said:

stantheman01 said:

Any legitimacy from the 4chan post naming Skye Valadez as the person of interest?
Same person with the SoundCloud upload titled Charlie Kirk dead at 31?





has to be the guy


Similar ears and jawline.


If you watch the clip where he is talking to Charlie with the bullhorn, you will see the hate he has for him. Not hard to see him doing it in my opinion.
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Aggie118 said:

Here is the exchange he had with that guy for reference. Starts at 1 minute. Guy was extra angry and combative.



If that's the same obnoxious putz that murdered Charlie then please lord let him be alive, for now...
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Any tattoos visible in the still photos?
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What a dumb tweet. Why even post it?

ETA the tweet, not your post. I dont care what you post. I think its not good info. Could be i guess but basing it on nothing and admitting it could be false
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Again, the details like ears, jawline, nose are all AI. Hell, someone could have put the grainy fbi photo in ai with the photo of the dude on the left saying make this picture clearer and make it look like him.
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Ghost91 said:

The video of him walking down the street with the severe "limp" was BEFORE the shooting. He was on his way to campus and had the rifle running down his back/left side under his shirt and to just above the knee.

The video of him jumping off the building shows him landing, doing a little hitch step because he had to pick something up, then he runs with no limp whatsoever across the grass and then speed-walks down the sidewalk.


These communist are well schooled in disinformation. See January 6th. Don't take the bait.
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There are so many gaps in the information publicly available that trying to fill them in with guesses and speculation results in nothing but contradictions.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Just so sad that Charlie's cold body is back in AZ along with his wife and 2 kids and still no answers. Would've thought and did hope we are better than this.
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KatyAggie2000 said:

Just so sad that Charlie's cold body is back in AZ along with his wife and 2 kids and still no answers. Would've thought and did hope we are better than this.
I watched VP Vance and AF2 this evening. Very sad and somber all around. I've tried picturing myself taking Mr. Kirk's place and what that would do to my family. It's just impossible to imagine it… impossible to comprehend what they're going through. I'm called to pray for them, and I am, but I just can't wrap my head around their new normal.
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All I know is that trying to wade through the 7,000 leads that the FBI has received via crowd source and deciphering social media hoaxes and AI has got to be a nightmare. Even though we have all kinds of technology now to help, the smoke screen of social media and AI is disastrous and muddies the water. I'll bet it's harder to conduct an investigation/manhunt like this than ever before because of stupid social media hoaxing and AI. What can you believe is real or a legit lead?
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i think they know, on some level, who this ****bag is.

he's likely being surveilled right now. I think this guy is envisioning himself to being the next Luigi, assassin hero to the left, so let him think he got off Scot-Free and then pick him up at McDonalds in Yuma.

They have touch dna, finger, palm prints, he left a screwdriver, cell phone locations, video, a path before and after. Just going to take police work to solve it.
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BlackLab said:

suburban cowboy said:

stantheman01 said:

Any legitimacy from the 4chan post naming Skye Valadez as the person of interest?
Same person with the SoundCloud upload titled Charlie Kirk dead at 31?





has to be the guy


Similar ears and jawline.

Former infantry……got to be the guy. Someone is hiding him,.
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https://photobucket.com/share/9d97a5c2-5637-44d9-8e06-5e80a13e60ee

Notice the individual (black shirt, ballcap, dark sunglasses) with the camera just to the left of the tent (toward Charlie's right side). Very Suspicious.

Here is the X link in case it still works...

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TdoubleH said:

Not to derail but strong leadership doesn't have to say a word. Actually letting emotional rhetoric flow out and give away any of what you're thinking would be opposite of strong leadership. Strategic, composed, calculated, allowing those boots on the ground to have some opportunity….strong leadership.


I agree. We saw some examples of bad showboating load stuff which fizzed out. I want to see real thoughtful leadership and that is usually cold, calculated and well thought through. I hope we are seeing that, time will tell.
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I put a marker down last night, then took it down. My son knows a 4Chan suspect very, very well. Years ago, my son wanted to bring a TPUSA chapter to his school. The kid in question, also a student there, protested loudly against it. It was a private "Catholic" school. The school said TP USA violated their rules against having political groups on campus. Yet they would have weekly prayer rallies around the flagpole for Blacks killed by police officers (after George Floyd). Fair enough. But the kid didn't end there. He was in our Boy Scout troop and seemed to make it his personal mission to destroy my son. I'll be back with more details about the kid if it indeed turns out to be him.

Edit: not him. Just a fellow traveler.
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What do you see that is suspicious? I don't see anything
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Aggie118 said:

Here is the exchange he had with that guy for reference. Starts at 1 minute. Guy was extra angry and combative.



If he's not the guy, still needs his ass whipped.
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Aggie118 said:

Here is the exchange he had with that guy for reference. Starts at 1 minute. Guy was extra angry and combative.



Sure looks like the guy and obviously has a motive
 
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