Charlie Kirk Firings

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JCA1 said:

Quick question. When George Soros passes away, if any conservative posts "good riddance," y'all are Ok with them being fired over it?


"dies"?

or "viciously assassinated on national television by trans loving leftist"?
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JCA1 said:

Quick question. When George Soros passes away, if any conservative posts "good riddance," y'all are Ok with them being fired over it?

When he "passes away" or if he is assassinated? Not the same scenario.
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Cooksville said:

JCA1 said:

Quick question. When George Soros passes away, if any conservative posts "good riddance," y'all are Ok with them being fired over it?

When he "passes away" or if he is assassinated? Not the same scenario.


It was set up that way deliberately. Trying to make it somewhat similar but same result to excuse the left having to deal with what they've done. That's why you say, yes if it is the same but reversed then I do believe somebody would be justly fired
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JCA1 said:

Quick question. When George Soros passes away, if any conservative posts "good riddance," y'all are Ok with them being fired over it?

False equivalency.
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Several have pointed out the problem with the question, but I will amend it and go on the record with:

If George Soros is assassinated, if any conservative posts "good riddance," Im Ok with them being fired over it.




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Biz Ag said:

Gaeilge said:

University of Kansas is emboldened in this position because somehow they ended up with a liberal as their governor.

KU has a long history of being a liberal cesspool.

Not disagreeing. But having a liberal governor is helping them to insulate this person. If Kansas had a Republican governor, there would be pressure from him/her to ax the individual.
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And let me add, a lot of the comments made about Charlie are reprehensible and the repercussions were entirely justified, particularly if the person is entrusted with the care of the vulnerable; I.e., teachers and health care providers.

But there's also a lot of attempts to cancel people for saying the equivalent of "good riddance." While I share the desire to penalize these people for these insensitive remarks, my more long term, logical side says, despite how terrible these comments are, they are also unfortunately fairly common when a political figure does. Because political figures often take on a life bigger than their own and aren't really even viewed as a person. The manner of death does change the equation but at base, the question is whether it's ok to not show remorse when a political opponent dies. At least for those sentiments, I think the cure is worse than the disease. YMMV.
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Im Gipper said:

Several have pointed out the problem with the question, but I will amend it and go on the record with:

If George Soros is assassinated, if any conservative posts "good riddance," Im Ok with them being fired over it.






I'm not
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JCA1 said:

And let me add, a lot of the comments made about Charlie are reprehensible and the repercussions were entirely justified, particularly if the person is entrusted with the care of the vulnerable; I.e., teachers and health care providers.

But there's also a lot of attempts to cancel people for saying the equivalent of "good riddance." While I share the desire to penalize these people for these insensitive remarks, my more long term, logical side says, despite how terrible these comments are, they are also unfortunately fairly common when a political figure does. Because political figures often take on a life bigger than their own and aren't really even viewed as a person. The manner of death does change the equation but at base, the question is whether it's ok to not show remorse when a political opponent dies. At least for those sentiments, I think the cure is worse than the disease. YMMV.



What part of you put anything in the public square you run the risk of the consequences especially in age of social media do you not understand?

Seems the left is mad the right is playing by their own rules
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SIAP, If a social media post can keep you from obtaining a job then why can't it also get you fired.

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JCA1 said:

And let me add, a lot of the comments made about Charlie are reprehensible and the repercussions were entirely justified, particularly if the person is entrusted with the care of the vulnerable; I.e., teachers and health care providers.

But there's also a lot of attempts to cancel people for saying the equivalent of "good riddance." While I share the desire to penalize these people for these insensitive remarks, my more long term, logical side says, despite how terrible these comments are, they are also unfortunately fairly common when a political figure does. Because political figures often take on a life bigger than their own and aren't really even viewed as a person. The manner of death does change the equation but at base, the question is whether it's ok to not show remorse when a political opponent dies. At least for those sentiments, I think the cure is worse than the disease. YMMV.

Yes, it's okay to not show remorse.
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samurai_science said:

Im Gipper said:

Several have pointed out the problem with the question, but I will amend it and go on the record with:

If George Soros is assassinated, if any conservative posts "good riddance," Im Ok with them being fired over it.






I'm not

Not my business, they can fire who they want. And I can choose not to affiliate with that business!


On another note, I'd also think "good riddance" if Soros were assassinated by a conservative. That won't happen thought!

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will25u said:



Would be curious what this aid's duties include. Was this aid tutored by Kamala Harris?
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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The Banned said:

JCA1 said:

Quick question. When George Soros passes away, if any conservative posts "good riddance," y'all are Ok with them being fired over it?

This is a good question that should give many people pause. Well played


Question is, will it be posted on social media. I seriously doubt it . Again, nice try with the hypothetical. What a reach.

Kirk was assassinated, huge difference. Plus he wasn't funding the RNC like Soros was the DNC and candidates. Keep trying to justify your position.
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will25u said:




What is an "Accessible Print Coordinator, Student Access Center" ?
This college truly needs to reassess the school's ethics.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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American Hardwood said:

Pardon me if this was discussed already in this long thread, but I am more than a little concerned about what all this means regarding the 1st amendment. Personally, I am greatly satisfied that these clowns are getting fired/removed for their despicable behavior, but I thought we believed in the right to speak our mind without punishment from the government. Many of these universities are public.

Consider the repercussions if the situation is flipped. f16 alone has had many, many postings over the years in a similar vein celebrating or demanding harm on certain people. IAMNAL but when things settle down a bit, I will not be surprised by the lawsuits that come over these dismissals.


Any corporation, university, private company, etc has guidelines they expect their employees and students to hold up to. Majority of companies have a social media policy that states that people can be terminated for expressing views that do not align with company policy. Lawsuits aren't going to change that.

It's absolutely no different from all of the people who were fired in 2020 and 2021 from their jobs simply because they refused to take an experimental vaccine.
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So much dead weight in education. Accessible Print Coordinator... what the actual **** are we doing?
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ProgN said:

TAMUallen said:



Someone should have tripped into that ***** and cover her in her paint.

Hope that is indelible paint, she isn't wearing gloves.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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Get fired, start a GoFundMe. Good luck.
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TAMUallen said:

JCA1 said:

Quick question. When George Soros passes away, if any conservative posts "good riddance," y'all are Ok with them being fired over it?


Doesn't matter if you are ok with it or not, the poster should know what standard their employer will hold them to as a representative of employer. If a poster uses the same vitriol as the fired left has for Charlie then yes it would be expected and there's no excuse.


Bingo. And if company policy is to cater to the evil, racial, violent ideas & actions of George Soros, I'm going to go ahead and say they don't have a whole lot (if any) conservatives employed. If they do, and they are fired, then I don't think they'll have a hard time finding another job rather quickly.
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richardag said:

will25u said:



Would be curious what this aid's duties include. Was this aid tutored by Kamala Harris?

Rule #1 of politics - never piss off your side piece!
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Comanche_Ag said:



Get fired, start a GoFundMe. Good luck.

Idiot doesn't even know how the 1st Amendment works, not surprising.
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Anyone posting anything on social media can face repercussions if it makes their employer look bad or pisses off their customer base.

I'm a public school teacher, specifically 12th grade gov and econ. I have a lot I COULD say in a whole bunch of situations, and can speak with more background knowledge than most. HOWEVER, I also own my own real estate brokerage. If I posted something celebrating the death of Nancy Pelosi or Donald Trump or whomever, I shouldn't be surprised if I lose a lot of business all of a sudden.

I keep my politics off of general social media...except here.
"Well, if you can’t have a great season, at least ruin somebody else’s." - Olin Buchanan
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"You're promoting violence" says the ******ed leftist, who is destroying the memorial of someone that was murdered last week.
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will25u said:

They cannot not lie.



Anyone considering voting for any Democratic Party candidate should immediately reconsider their voting preferences.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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javajaws said:

Idiot doesn't even know how the 1st Amendment works, not surprising.

You can thank Democrats controlling public education for that.
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Comanche_Ag said:



Get fired, start a GoFundMe. Good luck.

Life comes at you fast when you're stupid.

While I doubt it, hopefully she'll learn a valuable lesson.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Ellis Wyatt said:

This has nothing to do with the first amendment.

It has to do with a godless populace. It has to do with a lack of character. It has to do with a lack of judgment.

That and I would suspect ethics/morality clauses required by Companies/Corporations AND the state/federal government including Colleges/Universities whether private or publicly funded.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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I am ok with a business firing an employee or refusing to hire for ANY reason. Period. Nothing should be protected.
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American Hardwood said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

This has nothing to do with the first amendment.

It has to do with a godless populace. It has to do with a lack of character. It has to do with a lack of judgment.

I get all of that. I am just the type of person that looks at the precedents being set and how they can be used against us when evil rises to power again. And I disagree, it has everything to do with the 1st Amendment. Vile speech is still speech. This is the camel's nose under the tent.

Let's just say the leftists take over the government again after Trump. Do you think they care about the nuance between saying "Charlie Kirk was a fascist and deserved to die" and "Fauci committed crimes against humanity and should be hung from the tallest tree."? Once we establish that it's okay to fire people on a large scale for the nasty things they say, then everyone on this board better get ready for what comes.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

please notice the use and meaning of the word "or".

IMHO, people are free to speak but are not exempt from ramifications for their speech.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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For all those on this forum, who claim this is a minority of Democrats.

Your party has become vile. It is an ideology of hate and destructiveness.
Open your eyes.
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JCA1 said:

Quick question. When George Soros passes away, if any conservative posts "good riddance," y'all are Ok with them being fired over it?


We don't care that you hated Charlie Kirk. We care very much that you killed him for that hate.

See the difference?
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American Hardwood said:

johnnyblaze36 said:

Fauci does deserve to be tried in a court of law for crimes against humanity and then suffer the appropriate sentence. Terrible analogy.

This is about what people say, which very often doesn't include "after due process and trial by a court of law".

Look, I understand my concern is not going to be a popular one around here. My feelings are the same as everyone else around here about what these people say. But the left is very, very good at taking something righteous that the right does or believes and turning it into a weapon against those same people. My message is cautionary, be careful what you wish for.

Your concern regarding when the Democratic Party leadership gains control is way too late. The Democratic Party leadership and their minions in the DOJ, FBI, NSA, HOMELAND SECURITY, etc. have already abused their power and locked up innocent people.
Corporations that advocated the insidious leftist progressive agenda have already cleared their companies of anyone that openly espoused conservative views.
There were examples posted above yours showing people forgiven for their malicious actions on the internet and retaining their jobs. I would venture a guess that their supervisors are leftist progressive leaning and will not uphold any ethics/morality employment clauses for their side.
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If we don't speak up for the right thing when it's time, why would we worry about next time? There may be no next time. The left is trying to silence US.

Public discourse needs to be toned down dramatically. The message should have been conveyed when the Republican baseball team was shot up. It should have been conveyed when Rand Paul was attacked. It should have been conveyed when Trump was shot. Yet here we are.

This must stop. If the right decided to react proportionately, the consequences would be terrible. The left has to rein itself in.
 
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